It's not a fact. The opposite is true.
It’s also fact that immigrants commit more crime per capita. You can’t pick and choose the facts you use. There has to be a balance, no?
Question is though, is Hadji Wright better with the left wing or in the centre?I wouldn't use it for either personally.
However, LGBTQ is a group of actual people isn't it? Same as there's "London Fans" and "Disabled Fans".
The equivalent would be "Left wing ccfc supporters group" and "right wing supports group".
Woah a step too farEven the mad hatters?
I agree completely. There was no outrage when pretty white Ukrainian women were coming here when it kicked off with Russia. The bigots were extremely quiet about that for some reasonIt always - always - comes down to skin colour.
Just seen your other post, not going to go through an off topic thread to find it.It's not a fact. The opposite is true.
You can be sued for this statement be careful.The sticker is racist, because it openly supports Rupert Lowe, who is a racist. He espouses views that are quite clearly racist. Not political, racist, and not particularly well hidden (see link below).
This stuff he shouts about goes a long, long way beyond a polite discussion on immigration control. Is that the sort of person you want to see our club associated with?
The ugly inside: Rupert Lowe and the Reform civil war
‘Spot the link between fascism and football’ – Rupert Lowe and a local football fanzine front page from his time as Southampton FC chair. This guest article was written by Resista…skwawkbox.org
Again, did anybody see who was actually handing them out?
I understand this point of view but I think it's overly simplistic. The campaigns the club has done for marginalised communities are about inclusiveness, aren't they? Making people feel safe and welcome at the club.But again, using the CCFC badge in LGBTQ+ things is ok? It's ok for one, but not the other?
Whether you agree or dont agree, you can't pick and choose. Youre either for politics in football, or against. There's no inbetween.
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Just seen your other post, not going to go through an off topic thread to find it.
How is the opposite true?
The white bloke is in prison, and i can say as a matter of fact, if he were released and kept in a local hotel, the staff there wouldn't keep it underwraps like the asylum seekers. They'd shout to the press. And within hours there'd be people outside saying for blood. Fact.
But what are they to protest about? Stop people having children all together because a small % of all children born will grow up to be kiddy fiddlers? Be realistic. People are on paedophile, regardless of skin colour. To say otherwise is fucking ridiculous and you know it.
Stopping the boats is a genuine concern to a genuine threat. Stopping ALL birth isnt. You can't stop British born people becoming nonce's, you can stop foreign born ones entering though by stopping boats and only allowing people though legit routes with genuine background checks.
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What did the blurred out word say? I'm assuming it don't say stop the boats as why would you blur that?
So if it's a racist word I'm not sure how anyone no matter their views on immigration can be ok with this?
Odd thing to blur in that caseIt was boats
It's exactly why the previous few right wing Governments have put less emphasis on people going into higher education, as it was 'spiralling out of control' and we were at risk of having an, ever increasingly, educated society (and not divided and conquered, like Britain bloody well oughta be).Same with the MAGA crowd. Farage, Trump and Yaxley-Lennon love the uneducated. Makes their job a whole lot easier.
Fixed it for youIt was boats and hoes
My statistics are correct though.If you only count foreign nationals it is true. If you include foreign born (ie all immigrants) it is not true.
And their "outrage" is always very selective. The good folk of Nuneaton were out a few weeks ago protesting about that girl getting raped by asylum seekers. Literally the following week, the police stated they had arrested and charged a white guy from Nuneaton who had been abusing kids for years and...s
That's a very assumptive statement around propensity. The folk that voted just might think that the old established party's in this country have let them down so have decided to try something else. White British boys are statistically supposed to have the worst outcomes so could choose others to vote for based on the fact that Labour are not what they were in years gone by and the Tories are a failed Government. Statistics can be made to fit around any assumption.Granted it's only my own anecdotal evidence, but near enough every single comment or clip of people who support Reform, or stop the boats, etc. is, well, barely in English.
Also, at the last election, the largest demographic that had the greatest propensity to vote for Reform (even more than age!), was the uneducated.
Odd thing to blur in that case
My statistics are correct though.
Foreign nationals make up 9% of the population but commit 16.1% of crime. Nothing to do with foreign born.
Considering foreign nationals include refugees, migrants and asylum seekers, it’s completely relevant. The person in Nuneaton was a migrant.
Sorry, yes my mistake.Nah, you said immigrants.
Immigrants includes foreign born.
Curiously what are the stats if you include foreign born?Sorry, yes my mistake.
Well...the demographics do indicate, that on the balance of probabilities, they are more likely to be thick.I’m not disputing the demographics but I think it’s unfair to label someone who has different views on political matters as thick. Their opinions are just a valid as yours, regardless of how much you may disagree with them.
You're right to be wary of statistics, they certainly can be manipulated to tell a story and push an agenda. And it's impossible to know the reasons for individual cases about why they voted a particular way, trends can be useful, but won't pick up the reasons behind protest votes, for sure.That's a very assumptive statement around propensity. The folk that voted just might think that the old established party's in this country have let them down so have decided to try something else. White British boys are statistically supposed to have the worst outcomes so could choose others to vote for based on the fact that Labour are not what they were in years gone by and the Tories are a failed Government. Statistics can be made to fit around any assumption.
Much closer aligned to the population albeit still slightly higher.Curiously what are the stats if you include foreign born?
Can we please stop labelling Reform voters as far right? Whilst lots of opinions will be an agenda pushed by some of them, these aren't NF or Britain First etc. I know lots of people who are consistently fed up with main stream political parties and are considering them. That's a concern because they're pretty much a one trick pony and don't yet have the gravitas or ideas to even form a sensible opposition, but such labels aren't helpful and will push people towards them.It's exactly why the previous few right wing Governments have put less emphasis on people going into higher education, as it was 'spiralling out of control' and we were at risk of having an, ever increasingly, educated society (and not divided and conquered, like Britain bloody well oughta be).
I study voting demographics quite a lot, and it's pretty much the only demographic and stereotype that still holds true in the UK. The old fashioned upper/lower class one is dead, a middle or upper-class educated person is less likely to vote far right than a working class uneducated person, now.
And even the age one, isn't quite as clear cut. As that still is a by-product of the level of education. We haven't, yet, got a reasonable representation across the elder age demographics of people who have received higher education (through no fault of their own). As it's only really those who are now around mid 40s or lower where education has been more accessible. And it's the 40s demographic that is now the most interesting, as this is around the age where historically people would shift further to right, politically. But this no longer happening at the same rate, due to education levels. Will be interesting what will happen in 20+ years times when we have a good representation of educated 50, 60, 70 year olds...
Imagine loving a bloke that’s so smart he put a rugby coach in charge of a football team and got them relegated.
Yeah, Coventry did not get a good run out in that doc.Shifty
When power begins to shift in society, everything becomes unstable, exciting and frightening. Living in Britain at the end of the 20th century. From acclaimed film maker Adam Curtis.www.bbc.co.uk
STOP THE CHARITY BOATS!!!!!so it just says 'stop the boats', weird to blur it. Having Lowe on there is amazing when you factor in his recent work...
Rupert Lowe MP mistook charity rowers as possible 'illegal migrants'
Rupert Lowe says he will donate £1,000 to charity but makes "no apologies over being vigilant".www.bbc.com
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