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  • Start date Jun 18, 2014
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SBA1987

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  • Jun 18, 2014
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Apologies if this is stating information that we all know however i recently emailed the football league due to there lack of support and had a response in which i thought i would share and see what everyone else thoughts are on this. After my rant i asked two questions:

Question 1.

Why did you firstly allow SISU (Otium Entertainment or whatever they are called this week) retake the club from administration and how did they pass a 'fit and proper person' test?


Question 2.
What action are you taking to ensure we return to the city within 3 years that was 'promised'? What are the consequences if this doesn't happen?

Below is the response,


Thank you for your email.
The Football League has responded to a large number of questions in relation to Coventry City and their relocation to Northampton Town since the summer.
At the time we clarified that, in order for Coventry City Football Club to compete in League 1 last season, the Board agreed to transfer the club’s share to Otium under its ‘exceptional circumstances’ provision. This effectively sought to ensure the club continued to operate as a member of The League. Without this there would not be a Coventry City in The Football League.
As a condition Otium had to accept a ten point deduction, due to the fact that the club had been unable to agree a CVA as ordinarily required under The League’s insolvency policy. In terms of stadium relocation, whilst The League has publically urged Otium and ACL to resolve the dispute, The League has no jurisdiction to force any Club (or landlord for that matter) to come to an arrangement over land or rental agreement. With no agreement in place to play at the Ricoh Arena, reluctantly, the Board of Directors approved the application to relocate on a temporary basis only, otherwise with no venue to play at, they would not have been able to fulfil their fixtures, thus would not have been able to operate as a member of The League.
This fully outlines why the relocation to Northampton was sanctioned at the time.
As you will be aware the current situation at Coventry City remains extremely complex. The Board of The Football League has received updates on the matter and the situation continues to be closely monitored, with discussion ongoing regarding progress in returning the Club to the Coventry area.
You will understand that it is not always possible to make every detail of these meetings public, but as with all cases of clubs looking to move grounds, The League will continue to emphasise to the Club that supporters should be kept up to date as often as is practically possible.
The Board has given Coventry City permission to play its matches at Northampton Town for the next three seasons, with no agreement in place regarding the Ricoh Arena. Obviously if an arrangement is reached by the club to return to Coventry at an earlier point then this is desirable for all. The League has previously stated that ideally an agreement can be reached between parties to enable this to happen. This term can be extended for two further periods of 12 months, provided the club can demonstrate sufficient progress towards the building of a new stadium in the Coventry area. Should the club not comply with this timeframe, the matter will be considered by The Football League Board at the relevant time with reference to both the permission to relocate and the membership agreement entered into in August 2013. Expulsion from the League would be a realistic outcome at that stage.
The dispute between Arena Coventry Limited and Coventry City is ultimately one which must be resolved by the two parties themselves, if they are prepared to do so. However, The League is continuing with our efforts to get the Club playing back in the Coventry area as soon as possible and as aforementioned we have had regular discussions with the Club.
Should you not have done so already we would advise you contact the club directly with your queries.
Thank you for contacting The Football League

Two things i wasnt aware of.... we can still play in northampton for 2 years after the initial 3? expulsion from the league if the club are not showing adequate signs of coming back.
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #2
The two points you mention are both known facts. Well done for getting a response from them and welcome.

WM
 

gouldberg

New Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #3
SBA1987 said:
expulsion from the league if the club are not showing adequate signs of coming back.
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So how are we still in the league now...?
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #4
Welcome SBA1987 :welcome:

That email looks like a regurgitated reply that many of us have had from the FL since we moved to Sixfields. Same old we can't make them do a deal kind of line. They may not be able to force a deal, but if they had the balls, they could say but we do insist you play in Coventry. The logistics are up to you to sort out. It's their ball, it's their rules.
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #5
SBA1987 said:
The League will continue to emphasise to the Club that supporters should be kept up to date as often as is practically possible
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Can I emphasise that the fans have been told f**k all.
 
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RFC

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #6
gouldberg said:
So how are we still in the league now...?
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How do you know one way or the other whether our owners have and are conforming to the FL requests and are in frequent communication with them or not??????????
 

gouldberg

New Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #7
RFC said:
How do you know one way or the other whether our owners have and are conforming to the FL requests and are in frequent communication with them or not??????????
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"The League will continue to emphasise to the Club that supporters should be kept up to date as often as is practically possible."

Our updates so far have been, we're looking at a site...*silence*. We're looking at another site...*silence*...oh look, have a pretty picture.

And that has taken a total of what now...18 months? We have no idea what is being discussed between the FL and Sisu, and we have no idea if Sisu have any plans what-so-ever outside of some clever little image someone did. And that...well that just isn't good enough.
 

Voice_of_Reason

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #8
This is there standard reply which they have been sending out for months, in short, the FL has no balls !
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #9
Anyone else noticed there is no mention of the 590k settlement?

Very fishy
 
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Spionkop

New Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #10
SBA1987, well done for contacting them. Even though they've trotted out a reply quite a few of us fans have received. Your contact with them is yet another reminder from us fans that it is us fans getting the brunt of it. Reminding the FL that there is not one shred of progress on the fantasy ground.
Of course it's a myth anyway.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #11
Kingokings204 said:
Anyone else noticed there is no mention of the 590k settlement?

Very fishy
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You seem obsessed. Surely you will be pleased if the club don't have to pay the greedy bastards won't you?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #12
Grendel said:
You seem obsessed. Surely you will be pleased if the club don't have to pay the greedy bastards won't you?
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So,you will be pleased if the greedy bastards dont pay the money? You seem obsessed.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #13
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
So,you will be pleased if the greedy bastards dont pay the money? You seem obsessed.
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This is a CCFC forum. Why would anyone have the remotest interest if ACL ae paid or not?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #14
Grendel said:
This is a CCFC forum. Why would anyone have the remotest interest if ACL ae paid or not?
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Why would anyone have the remotest interest if a Cayman Island registered hedge fund paid or not?
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #15
Grendel said:
You seem obsessed. Surely you will be pleased if the club don't have to pay the greedy bastards won't you?
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Well if it doesn't get paid out ccfc will be docked more points probably and face more sanctions so it's not about who gets paid it's about the right thing being done and ccfc not to face any more points deductions. 10 points each of the last two years is hard to take. Both years we have been in league 1 and actually had a serious chance of promotion if run properly.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #16
Why does anyone still give a shit about any of it?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #17
Why would anyone be interested in a court case between a hedge fund and a local authority? Yet some can't shut up about it and then gang up on anyone who points out the futility of doing it before then coming on another thread and having a go at someone for commenting on something as equally relevant to a CCFC forum. Still I'm sure they got some likes of their minions.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #18
Kingokings204 said:
Well if it doesn't get paid out ccfc will be docked more points probably and face more sanctions so it's not about who gets paid it's about the right thing being done and ccfc not to face any more points deductions. 10 points each of the last two years is hard to take. Both years we have been in league 1 and actually had a serious chance of promotion if run properly.
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So we agree, if we don't get docked points and they receive jack shit that's fine - yes?
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #19
skybluetony176 said:
Why would anyone be interested in a court case between a hedge fund and a local authority? Yet some can't shut up about it and then gang up on anyone who points out the futility of doing it before then coming on another thread and having a go at someone for commenting on something as equally relevant to a CCFC forum. Still I'm sure they got some likes of their minions.
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So someone hacked into your account during the trial then?
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #20
Grendel said:
So we agree, if we don't get docked points and they receive jack shit that's fine - yes?
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If that is what is decided by the relevant authories I.e the FL and they don't dock us points then yes
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #21
Grendel said:
So we agree, if we don't get docked points and they receive jack shit that's fine - yes?
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How angry will you be at sisu if we do get docked points or a transfer embargo or financial penalties or if worse comes to the worse expulsion from the league?

Or will you dream up an angle to blame ACL or CCC or Andy Thorn, anyone but sisu?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #22
skybluetony176 said:
How angry will you be at sisu if we do get docked points or a transfer embargo or financial penalties or if worse comes to the worse expulsion from the league?

Or will you dream up an angle to blame ACL or CCC or Andy Thorn, anyone but sisu?
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I'd be pleased if we get docked points.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #23
Grendel said:
So someone hacked into your account during the trial then?
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Which one? The one you said was a pointless thread when sisu's counter claim got thrown out in five minutes and then when sisu's QC started making claims about the council you rose to the rank of top poster? That one?
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #24
This subject was brought up a few weeks ago. Can anyone actually find a statement from FL or document that says about this £590K payment. We all seem agreed on its existence, but there doesn't appear to be something to confirm it in writing anywhere.
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #25
skybluetony176 said:
.......the rank of top poster? That one?
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This is a "Spoonerism" of Pop Toster. I have a Pop-up toaster. Does this mean I qualify for the job?
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #26
Grendel said:
This is a CCFC forum. Why would anyone have the remotest interest if ACL ae paid or not?
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Because they feel it paints a bad image of what the tradition & values of our club are about.
A bit like those Newcastle fans that kick-off about their club accepting dirty money from a pay day loans business - it didn't sit right with them.


PUSB
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #27
Ian1779 said:
This subject was brought up a few weeks ago. Can anyone actually find a statement from FL or document that says about this £590K payment. We all seem agreed on its existence, but there doesn't appear to be something to confirm it in writing anywhere.
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I don't think there's anything in writing available in the public domain. I'm sure if there was we'd have seen it by now. I suppose it's quite possible that the only parties that know the exact arrangements are the FL and sisu, possibly ACL too.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #28
SkyblueBazza said:
Because they feel it paints a bad image of what the tradition & values of our club are about.
A bit like those Newcastle fans that kick-off about their club accepting dirty money from a pay day loans business - it didn't sit right with them.


PUSB
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I don't think ACL have really cared about the traditions & values of our club have they?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #29
Houchens Head said:
This is a "Spoonerism" of Pop Toster. I have a Pop-up toaster. Does this mean I qualify for the job?
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I always thought of you as more of a pop tart. ;-)
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #30
Grendel said:
I'd be pleased if we get docked points.
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Has RFC hacked into your account?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #31
Ian1779 said:
I don't think ACL have really cared about the traditions & values of our club have they?
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They fit right in with sisu then. Strange they can't work together, as they have so much in common.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #32
SkyblueBazza said:
Because they feel it paints a bad image of what the tradition & values of our club are about.
A bit like those Newcastle fans that kick-off about their club accepting dirty money from a pay day loans business - it didn't sit right with them.


PUSB
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Like when we wouldn't pay for Leon best but kept playing him?
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #33
skybluetony176 said:
I don't think there's anything in writing available in the public domain. I'm sure if there was we'd have seen it by now. I suppose it's quite possible that the only parties that know the exact arrangements are the FL and sisu, possibly ACL too.
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So I just wonder why we all believe it to be true. Both parties have referred to it, but we don't know the exact conditions as they haven't been shared.

We don't really know if it is tied to the liquidation or not - or if the owners liability ends at paying the money to the Escrow. Just more questions. Maybe as far as the FL are concerned - there is no statement to make... Nobody knows.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #34
skybluetony176 said:
They fit right in with sisu then. Strange they can't work together, as they have so much in common.
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Clearly more interested in trampling on each other in the race to the top.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2014
  • #35
Ian1779 said:
So I just wonder why we all believe it to be true. Both parties have referred to it, but we don't know the exact conditions as they haven't been shared.

We don't really know if it is tied to the liquidation or not - or if the owners liability ends at paying the money to the Escrow. Just more questions. Maybe as far as the FL are concerned - there is no statement to make... Nobody knows.
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It doesn't help that you have ML spinning practically right up to the week it was due that they would meet their commitment they made to this FL in return for the golden share only for the GR/MM story to conveniently break in a work place canteen days before the payment is due and then we read yesterday that they aren't meeting their commitment as they previously said they would and are indeed challenging it.

Wouldn't it just have been easier if this was completely transparent and laid out on the table by the FL the day the golden share was handed over. Still the FL don't do transparent and they certainly don't show the real fans enough respect be transparent.
 
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