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Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #281
Evo1883 said:
There is no knots here mate

I've explained how I thought he had a poor game , you've disagreed and proceeded to try and make me feel silly for some reason , so I'm asking you to put across your argument as to why he played well yesterday , and you cant seem to do that .
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I’ve not tried to make you feel silly, I’m just pointing out that you argument conflicts previous thoughts which suggests it’s an issue with the player rather than his performance.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #282
Briles said:
I guess it's the difference between winning games " in spite" of an inviduals performance and winning "because" of an individuals performance . They're not mutually exclusive in my eyes if we win
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Sure , but all of the stomata yesterday point to ellis not really being involved and when he was he generally gave the ball away or made a bad pass

He didn't have a good game and thats a reasonable assessment
 

Briles

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #283
On a side note it was pretty incredible that we had our captain and top scorer on the bench yesterday when 2-0 up
 

Briles

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #284
Evo1883 said:
Sure , but all of the stomata yesterday point to ellis not really being involved and when he was he generally gave the ball away or made a bad pass

He didn't have a good game and thats a reasonable assessment
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He has better games granted
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #285
Ccfcisparks said:
I’ve not tried to make you feel silly, I’m just pointing out that you argument conflicts previous thoughts which suggests it’s an issue with the player rather than his performance.
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Ok so away from the fact I was a matty godden fanboy let's focus on the question .

Tell me how ellis simms had a good game yesterday
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #286
Think it’ll be interesting to see how Haji does down the middle. He’s looked not great since coming back. I think it’s a role isuse
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #287
Ccfcisparks said:
Think it’ll be interesting to see how Haji does down the middle. He’s looked not great since coming back. I think it’s a role isuse
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I think its a 3 month out issue
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #288
Evo1883 said:
I think its a 3 month out issue
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We will see then won’t we.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #289
Ccfcisparks said:
Think it’ll be interesting to see how Haji does down the middle. He’s looked not great since coming back. I think it’s a role isuse
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Maybe but think being out for so long will make him rusty as well
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #290
Ccfcisparks said:
We will see then won’t we.
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Well considering most of his career is played as a CF and its only really us that played him left I'd suggest that its not the role
 

Briles

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #291
Evo1883 said:
Ok so away from the fact I was a matty godden fanboy let's focus on the question .

Tell me how ellis simms had a good game yesterday
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If you look at the first two goals he blocks their defender for the first and actually occupies 2 for torps second. It's clear he has been given a specific role and it's working. If you want to drill down into the granular minutiae then it might be different. But in the big moments he did his job
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #292
Evo1883 said:
Well considering most of his career is played as a CF and its only really us that played him left I'd suggest that its not the role
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I’m not really sure on what point you’re trying to make.

my question was we will see how Haji does in the CF role in this lampard side and how it’s set up
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #293
Briles said:
If you look at the first two goals he blocks their defender for the first and actually occupies 2 for torps second. It's clear he has been given a specific role and it's working. If you want to drill down into the granular minutiae then it might be different. But in the big moments he did his job
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Just to add, with him occupying space and CBs it means people become unmarked like yesterday as per the post or Rudoni at Oxford
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #294
Ccfcisparks said:
Think it’ll be interesting to see how Haji does down the middle. He’s looked not great since coming back. I think it’s a role isuse
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He’ll go on the wing eventually, Simms has added a lot of value with his hold up play and physicality against defenders. Wright’s most impactful moment yesterday was when he picked up the ball and ran at defenders down the left flank.

Wright did put pressure on the defender which led to a poor header that ended up with Thomas and the winner.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #295
Evo1883 said:
Well considering most of his career is played as a CF and its only really us that played him left I'd suggest that its not the role
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I think it’s more than there a different roles for a CF. Playing as a target man who is to occupy space and bring people in isn’t the same as how Wright would want to play imo
 

covcity4life

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #296
Evo1883 said:
Its crazy talk
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I like Simms but he wasn't anything special yesterday and not sure what people saw to make them think he was
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #297
Mucca Mad Boys said:
He’ll go on the wing eventually, Simms has added a lot of value with his hold up play and physicality against defenders. Wright’s most impactful moment yesterday was when he picked up the ball and ran at defenders down the left flank.

Wright did put pressure on the defender which led to a poor header that ended up with Thomas and the winner.
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Yep agreed if EMC is out can see Haji being LW again.
 

Briles

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #298
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Just to add, with him occupying space and CBs it means people become unmarked like yesterday as per the post or Rudoni at Oxford
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I think I read we have scored more headed goals than any team across Europe's top leagues. That's crazy
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #299
Briles said:
If you look at the first two goals he blocks their defender for the first and actually occupies 2 for torps second. It's clear he has been given a specific role and it's working. If you want to drill down into the granular minutiae then it might be different. But in the big moments he did his job
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The first goal he absolutely blocked the player , the second he didn't do anything but watch the ball get passed to torp .

His overall game was poor
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #300
covcity4life said:
I like Simms but he wasn't anything special yesterday and not sure what people saw to make them think he was
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Don’t think any bodies arguing he was superb yesterday but he’s clearly playing a role and is doing it well hence the wins
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #301
Ccfcisparks said:
I’m not really sure on what point you’re trying to make.

my question was we will see how Haji does in the CF role in this lampard side and how it’s set up
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Many on this forum dont seem to think haji can play through the middle which is where hes scored most of his career goals , is my point
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #302
covcity4life said:
I like Simms but he wasn't anything special yesterday and not sure what people saw to make them think he was
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Thank you
 

Briles

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #303
Evo1883 said:
The first goal he absolutely blocked the player , the second he didn't do anything but watch the ball get passed to torp .

His overall game was poor
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He can have an overall poor game if he influences the occasions we score and win
 

covcity4life

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #304
Ccfcisparks said:
Don’t think any bodies arguing he was superb yesterday but he’s clearly playing a role and is doing it well hence the wins
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He's doing well and some games better than others

Still has a lot more to offer us though imo
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #305
Evo1883 said:
Many on this forum dont seem to think haji can play through the middle which is where hes scored most of his career goals , is my point
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So it’s a point devoid from what we were discussing
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #306
covcity4life said:
He's doing well and some games better than others

Still has a lot more to offer us though imo
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Agree
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #307
Ccfcisparks said:
Don’t think any bodies arguing he was superb yesterday but he’s clearly playing a role and is doing it well hence the wins
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This is nonsense , not every player is playing well every game even when we win
 

baldy

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #308
Ccfcisparks said:
Think it’ll be interesting to see how Haji does down the middle. He’s looked not great since coming back. I think it’s a role isuse
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Since coming back? He's only been on twice as a sub ffs - give him time
 
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StrettoBoy

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #309
Evo1883 said:
Sure , but all of the stomata yesterday point to ellis not really being involved
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #310
Ccfcisparks said:
So it’s a point devoid from what we were discussing
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You suggested he could have an issue with his role , which is doubt is true , hes the best striker at the club
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #311
StrettoBoy said:
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Haha new phone , but will use it going forward
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #312
Evo1883 said:
This is nonsense , not every player is playing well every game even when we win
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Yeah nonsense to you. Not to me and the countless people who’ve liked my posts agreeing.

Fortunately it’s a game of opinions and yours isn’t the final say
 

baldy

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #313
Ccfcisparks said:
So it’s a point devoid from what we were discussing
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Stop discussing it then
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #314
Ccfcisparks said:
Yeah nonsense to you. Not to me and the countless people who’ve liked my posts agreeing.

Fortunately it’s a game of opinions and yours isn’t the final say
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No its nonsense, several players have played poorly in various different matches , thats not opinion that's a fact ..

Weird to suggest otherwise
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Mar 9, 2025
  • #315
Ccfcisparks said:
Yep agreed if EMC is out can see Haji being LW again.
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Against Derby and/or Sunderland, I’d like to see Sakamoto-Simms-Wright.

I’m assuming EMC is injured, but even if he’s fit and well, Sakamoto has played so well in the last 2 games he absolutely deserves to keep his spot. It’s his shirt to lose.
 
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