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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #876
Jimmy87 said:
I first heard about their injuries during Sheff Weds away, Eccles, BTA and Simms were all managing problems (injections etc). Been a recurring problem for each of them since.
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Fair play to them all, if we didn’t have them in February before the other players came back, we’d have been in a bad place.
 
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Jimmy87

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #877
Ccfcisparks said:
So for all the stick Simms has been getting, turns out hes been playing with an injury.
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All 3 of them were at that point, obviously we were without Sheaf and Wright and maybe EMC? i can't quite remember but we were short and they were all pushing through as they wanted to play desperately.
Obviously Eccles and BTA eventually succumbed. I think the first real rest Simms had was when Wright came back. They're all still being managed, even though they are 'back' from injury.
 
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Jimmy87

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #878
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Fair play to them all, if we didn’t have them in February before the other players came back, we’d have been in a bad place.
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Yeah props to anybody that plays with injections, we could have been in a bit of a mess in all areas.
 
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Jimmy87

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #879
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Provisional outs:
Eccles
Lati
BTA
Bidwell/JDS
Wilson/Collins

Interesting tidbits. Is Eccles attracting interest from a team in our league to above?

I know you didn’t mention a GK specifically, it’s a fair presumption that Dovin’s injury has changed things. The reports linking us a GK were probably not a coincidence given the timing of it.
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Yeah, obviously i was told this at Stoke at home so Dovin's injury wasn't an issue at that point.
I believe Eccles interest is from a Championship side.

The next time i see him will be Boro last game. I'll ask him if he's heard anything since the Dovin injury.
 
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Viktor17

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #880
Jimmy87 said:
Not heard anything about a keeper, but this was before Dovin injury.
You're right, i'm presuming they are preparing for both scenarios, go up / stay down, who's likely to leave etc.

He told me he is certain a bid will come in for Eccles, there has been whispers about this since January, so somebody is showing heavy interest obviously. Whether or not he's in the plans and we accept a bid, i don't know.

One CB wants out, think we know who that is by now. He stills says it wasn't Burnley after him.
One forward player wants to moved on for game time.
Looking to move on one of the LB's to make way for this target.
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thanks for heads up, sounds about right.

Interesting re midfield - a chance to get in a creative player and then a real athletic dynamo in midfield if Eccles and as expected Sheaf go.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #881
Viktor17 said:
thanks for heads up, sounds about right.

Interesting re midfield - a chance to get in a creative player and then a real athletic dynamo in midfield if Eccles and as expected Sheaf go.
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Just going off gut feeling here, but Sheaf is staying imo, we’ve got a contract extension option so he’s effectively contracted to 2027.

The interest in him won’t be there so his best bet is promotion with us atm.
 
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Jimmy87

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #882
Viktor17 said:
thanks for heads up, sounds about right.

Interesting re midfield - a chance to get in a creative player and then a real athletic dynamo in midfield if Eccles and as expected Sheaf go.
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Could be an interesting summer, i guess a lot will depend on where we end up.
Like i said, unsure if a bid will be accepted for Eccles, he never suggested he's not in our plans, just that he is certain we will see a bid for him.
 
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Viktor17

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #883
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Fair play to them all, if we didn’t have them in February before the other players came back, we’d have been in a bad place.
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As always adds a little balance as to why some players have been off/below par
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #884
Forget the stats. Trust what you see on the pitch. A centre forward has two chances to add value to a team. 1) Score goals. 2) Be that outstanding in other aspects that you can get a place even if 1 isn’t happening. Unfortunately for Simms he’s not bailing himself out with either. That said, outside of Wright he’s our best CF, i just think he needs time out of the team.
 
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Viktor17

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #885
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Just going off gut feeling here, but Sheaf is staying imo, we’ve got a contract extension option so he’s effectively contracted to 2027.

The interest in him won’t be there so his best bet is promotion with us atm.
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Fair shout - think its more does he want to stay? Cards in our favour fee wise (obviously not as much as last summer)
 
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Viktor17

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #886
Jimmy87 said:
Could be an interesting summer, i guess a lot will depend on where we end up.
Like i said, unsure if a bid will be accepted for Eccles, he never suggested he's not in our plans, just that he is certain we will see a bid for him.
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Indeed - we are going to have to generate money also, so eccles perhaps / Vik/ likely a MVE/Sheaf
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #887
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Provisional outs:
Eccles
Lati
BTA
Bidwell/JDS
Wilson/Collins

Interesting tidbits. Is Eccles attracting interest from a team in our league to above?

I know you didn’t mention a GK specifically, it’s a fair presumption that Dovin’s injury has changed things. The reports linking us a GK were probably not a coincidence given the timing of it.
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Could definitely see MR being interested in Eccles. Possibly BTA too as he chased him for quite a while.
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #888
Cally Fedora said:
Forget the stats. Trust what you see on the pitch. A centre forward has two chances to add value to a team. 1) Score goals. 2) Be that outstanding in other aspects that you can get a place even if 1 isn’t happening. Unfortunately for Simms he’s not bailing himself out with either. That said, outside of Wright he’s our best CF, i just think he needs time out of the team.
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Created the goal against Plymouth and set Wright up for another
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #889
Jimmy87 said:
Yeah, obviously i was told this at Stoke at home so Dovin's injury wasn't an issue at that point.
I believe Eccles interest is from a Championship side.

The next time i see him will be Boro last game. I'll ask him if he's heard anything since the Dovin injury.
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Jimmy87 said:
Could be an interesting summer, i guess a lot will depend on where we end up.
Like i said, unsure if a bid will be accepted for Eccles, he never suggested he's not in our plans, just that he is certain we will see a bid for him.
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Even if we don’t go up, it’ll be an exciting summer. If we can bolster the defence and get some wingers in, we’ll be in a really good place.

It makes me think someone like Stoke, Derby or Boro would fancy putting in a bid. Robins and Eustace were big fans iirc. He’s a solid player but he’s not better than Grimes or Sheaf imo. Torp has more 8/9 out of 10 games, but also more 4/5 out of 10 performances. He’s probably 4th choice when everyone is fit and firing so it makes sense to cash in if there’s a good offer from a FFP perspective.

Viktor17 said:
Fair shout - think its more does he want to stay? Cards in our favour fee wise (obviously not as much as last summer)
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Sheaf definitely wants to play at a higher level, his comments on the record has said as much. Last season, he was operating at a higher level and Prem interest was genuine so he probably did fancy leaving for the right club.

Right now, he knows it’s been a bad year for him and with no substantial interest him, he’ll be happy to stay. Especially if we finish in the playoffs because it keeps everyone believing in the project.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #890
Skyblueabo1111 said:
Created the goal against Plymouth and set Wright up for another
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He won’t get an assist for it, but Simms undoubtedly created the space for Paterson by occupying 2 defenders in the box.
 
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Jimmy87

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #891
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Even if we don’t go up, it’ll be an exciting summer. If we can bolster the defence and get some wingers in, we’ll be in a really good place.

It makes me think someone like Stoke, Derby or Boro would fancy putting in a bid. Robins and Eustace were big fans iirc. He’s a solid player but he’s not better than Grimes or Sheaf imo. Torp has more 8/9 out of 10 games, but also more 4/5 out of 10 performances. He’s probably 4th choice when everyone is fit and firing so it makes sense to cash in if there’s a good offer from a FFP perspective.



Sheaf definitely wants to play at a higher level, his comments on the record has said as much. Last season, he was operating at a higher level and Prem interest was genuine so he probably did fancy leaving for the right club.

Right now, he knows it’s been a bad year for him and with no substantial interest him, he’ll be happy to stay. Especially if we finish in the playoffs because it keeps everyone believing in the project.
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With Sheaf, i think it became quite well known about the place, that he wasn't pleased we turned down Southampton's bid for him.
Unfortunately it hasn't been the best year for him. Of the 2 clubs most interested in him, one is coming back down and the other could be heading to league 1, so unless a team that is going up has been keeping tabs on him, i can't see a bid coming in personally.

Not sure on the finances of other clubs, or even what Eccles is valued at, but my first guess was Robins.
 
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Viktor17

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #892
Jimmy87 said:
With Sheaf, i think it became quite well known about the place, that he wasn't pleased we turned down Southampton's bid for him.
Unfortunately it hasn't been the best year for him. Of the 2 clubs most interested in him, one is coming back down and the other could be heading to league 1, so unless a team that is going up has been keeping tabs on him, i can't see a bid coming in personally.

Not sure on the finances of other clubs, or even what Eccles is valued at, but my first guess was Robins.
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Will be interesting re sheaf - we would all love nothing else than a fully fit and firing Sheaf as with Grimes and rudoni thats a bloody decent midfield.

Eccles could be Burger replacement at stoke, who's off I believe. Wonder if he goes after BTA also, as understood he strongly drove that purchase.
 
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Jimmy87

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #893
Viktor17 said:
Will be interesting re sheaf - we would all love nothing else than a fully fit and firing Sheaf as with Grimes and rudoni thats a bloody decent midfield.

Eccles could be Burger replacement at stoke, who's off I believe. Wonder if he goes after BTA also, as understood he strongly drove that purchase.
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Correct, have mentioned before that MR pushed for BTA, Binks, JDS and Lati.
Can definitely see that Burger moving on. I think he is a good player.

Would love to see Sheaf turn it around and get himself fully fit and firing again.
 
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Viktor17

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #894
Jimmy87 said:
Correct, have mentioned before that MR pushed for BTA, Binks, JDS and Lati.
Can definitely see that Burger moving on. I think he is a good player.

Would love to see Sheaf turn it around and get himself fully fit and firing again.
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Id quite like burger for us!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #895
If we can find buyers for Collins, Bidwell, Lats, Binks, Eccles, BTA that’s £5m+ easily there. Plus the Vik money it’s a decent wedge before you get to selling first teamers.
 
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Jimmy87

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #896
shmmeee said:
If we can find buyers for Collins, Bidwell, Lats, Binks, Eccles, BTA that’s £5m+ easily there. Plus the Vik money it’s a decent wedge before you get to selling first teamers.
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Where do you think Gyokeres will end up, abroad or the Prem? I'd like to see Arsenal take a chance on him.
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #897
Jimmy87 said:
Where do you think Gyokeres will end up, abroad or the Prem? I'd like to see Arsenal take a chance on him.
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Just get a feeling he doesn’t want to be in England.
 
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Sky Blue Wozza

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #898
Jimmy87 said:
Where do you think Gyokeres will end up, abroad or the Prem? I'd like to see Arsenal take a chance on him.
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Arsenal or PSG, I reckon
 
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Jimmy87

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #899
shmmeee said:
Just get a feeling he doesn’t want to be in England.
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See i thought he'd relish a chance at the premier league, but have seen these rumours from abroad, now not so sure.
 
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Viktor17

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #900
shmmeee said:
Just get a feeling he doesn’t want to be in England.
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Very calculated in what he wants - he will want to go somewhere where hes the main man and also champions league. Would love to see him at Arsenal, but also think PSG perhaps makes sense.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #901
I can see Utd taking a punt on Gyokeres.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #902
I surmise that Ellis Simms has assumed the mantle of this month's boo boy.
 

CovLad94

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #903
Cally Fedora said:
I can see Utd taking a punt on Gyokeres.
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They're not that clever they'll end up spunking £60 mill on a callum delap
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #904
Turkish media has them heavily in and increasingly successfully in for Omishen
Cally Fedora said:
I can see Utd taking a punt on Gyokeres.
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SleepyGinger

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #905
Can’t see him going to United, he knows it’s career suicide, Arsenal would be a good move for all parties I think.
 
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Diogenes

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #906
I can see him in an Inter Milan shirt for some reason
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Apr 22, 2025
  • #907
SleepyGinger said:
Can’t see him going to United, he knows it’s career suicide, Arsenal would be a good move for all parties I think.
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Career suicide accompanied by a massive sack of cash.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 23, 2025
  • #908
Cally Fedora said:
I can see Utd taking a punt on Gyokeres.
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Can't see Gyokeres taking a punt on Man U.
 

Evo1883

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  • May 13, 2025
  • #909
Whatever my opinion of simms has been or is , I actually feel he has been treated a tad harshly by lampard in these playoffs to not feature at all and you'd imagine that his time here will now end as I can't see how you come back from that .

Unfortunately for me it hasn't worked this season and if he stays I obviously hope he kicks on , but reality suggests he will move on which is probably best for both parties .

What will be will be
 
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Adge

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  • May 14, 2025
  • #910
Lamps didn’t fancy him at Everton I guess and don’t think he still does. As you say-a parting of the ways may be best.
 
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