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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 15, 2025
  • #491
Perennial Lurker said:
Mate put down the Ellis Simms doll and go to bed
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Weird, I said he should have started today and generally defend him but there was an obvious contrast today in application between him and the player he replaced.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Mar 16, 2025
  • #492
Perennial Lurker said:
I suggest you go through some of those 12 match threads and rating threads and , apart from the latter games , he was being rated very highly
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That's my point. Some of us feel he's being rated too highly.
 
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Offhegoes

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  • Mar 17, 2025
  • #493
I'm still a fan of Simms, but Wright has the CF shirt now. Remember that Luton game though, they played as front 2 and terrorised The Hatters, both scored too. Simms then picked up a niggle and Wright got crocked for 4 months 2 weeks later. Still think that would be lethal partnership moving forwards.
 
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Hobo

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  • Mar 17, 2025
  • #494
A lot of Rudoni s headed goals have been down to Simms dragging players to the near post.

It's not always about what players do on the ball.

Simms first touch is erratic.
He can be a physical handful for defenders.
He reacts well to 2nd ball in the box.
He has pace once he gets into his stride.

He has a lot to offer. He is an old fashioned type of forward, physical and awkward. He is still young.

We need to make him more consistent and aggressive
 
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fatso

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  • Mar 17, 2025
  • #495
Hobo said:
Simms and Wright are totally different players who can pose the opposition different problems. It is a great example of why you have a squad.

It is interesting how people are all behind Haji Wright after a hat trick (and a brilliant hat trick).
But a lot of fans need reminding they didn't want him near the team today after his performance mid week.

Allen was brilliant too, but I have been reading posts for the last three years that he isn't Championship level. But in a match between two players off contenders he stole the show first half.
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Having 1 good game here and there has been the story of our players for years.
To be successful you need to be consistent, that's what we need to see between now and the end of the season.

We've had a great run recently without playing too well, so if we can hit Saturdays level regularly, we could yet win the playoffs.
 

SkyBlue_Adam

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  • Mar 17, 2025
  • #496
I like Simms.. but he will never score the type of goals Wright did at the weekend
 

Captain Dart

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  • Mar 17, 2025
  • #497
SkyBlue_Adam said:
I like Simms.. but he will never score the type of goals Wright did at the weekend
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I don't see him chipping the keeper but...



 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Apr 9, 2025
  • #498
Not so easy is it, being a number 9 in this Lampard system...
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 19, 2025
  • #499
Ccfcisparks said:
Not so easy is it, being a number 9 in this Lampard system...
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For some , its just not easy playing number 9 at all

Unless he pulls some magic off in the next few matches simms has had an awful season and we need to replace next year
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 19, 2025
  • #500
6 goals in his last 46 league appearances

A goal every 423 minutes

Not good enough full stop

1 goal at the CBS in the league since April 6th last year against Leeds
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Apr 19, 2025
  • #501
Evo1883 said:
For some , its just not easy playing number 9 at all

Unless he pulls some magic off in the next few matches simms has had an awful season and we need to replace next year
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Yet Wright looked just as hopeless at number 9
 
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Robinshio

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  • Apr 19, 2025
  • #502
Simms play created the space especially for Rudoni and saka to play in,
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #503
Ccfcisparks said:
Yet Wright looked just as hopeless at number 9
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Has far more to his game and scored 4 in 4 recently despite a couple of average performances
 
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cstring82

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #504
Robinshio said:
Simms play created the space especially for Rudoni and saka to play in,
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And closed the defenders down for the Grimes goal. Whilst he should have scored against Hull I prefer him if it’s the lone striker role over any others we’ve got.
 
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Otis

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #505
I have this sneaky feeling that Simms will do very well tomorrow.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #506
Otis said:
I have this sneaky feeling that Simms will do very well tomorrow.
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Well let's hope so eh , would be about time
 

SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #507
Simms has everything going for him and works hard but hes still learning. He is relatively young and I think, like Gyok, he will suddenly peak. One more season left for me to progress or we flog him.
 
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mmttww

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #508
Evo1883 said:
Has far more to his game and scored 4 in 4 recently despite a couple of average performances
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I think Wright is the better footballer, but you're not being fair here. He got three in one game where he was brilliant, and a rebound when he was stood offside in a game where he didn't show much.

Feels like Wright gets 'average' as his review when the same from Simms = 'sh*t'. Think there's some bias.

If neither scores regularly in that system, Lampard and the coaches needs to look at it if they want goals from that player. Neither is getting good through balls and neither is missing loads of good chances.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #509
Ccfcisparks said:
Yet Wright looked just as hopeless at number 9
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he scored a hat trick a few weeks ago
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #510
mmttww said:
I think Wright is the better footballer, but you're not being fair here. He got three in one game where he was brilliant, and a rebound when he was stood offside in a game where he didn't show much.

Feels like Wright gets 'average' as his review when the same from Simms = 'sh*t'. Think there's some bias.

If neither scores regularly in that system, Lampard and the coaches needs to look at it if they want goals from that player. Neither is getting good through balls and neither is missing loads of good chances.
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Wright plays the channels , can hold up the ball , can pass , can take a man on , can shoot .. simms looks like he won a raffle at Everton academy to win a pro contract

He does nothing well , I rarely give up on players but for me he moves on at the end of the season .

He might score 1 or 2 more this season but id still get him gone , we need better
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #511
Wright and Simms are levels apart
 
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eyesee

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #512
the guy's been dicked about this season. he clearly is a confidence player, which makes the way he's been treated even more puzzling. just play the guy and the rest will follow. as it did last season. if we're not gonna do that then sell him to a team that will.
then we could buy another CF, drop him all the time, destroy his confidence, and expect him to score a hat trick coming off the bench for 10mins at a time.

oh, and btw, wright is not a CF. too lightweight, and can barely head the ball.
he's a winger.
 
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SBT

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #513
Only three teams have scored more goals than we have this season - it’s a strange complaint to demand more goals from a lone striker position where pretty much every player we’ve tried there has struggled to regularly score. I’m just not sure this team is set up that way.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #514
eyesee said:
the guy's been dicked about this season. he clearly is a confidence player, which makes the way he's been treated even more puzzling. just play the guy and the rest will follow. as it did last season. if we're not gonna do that then sell him to a team that will.
then we could buy another CF, drop him all the time, destroy his confidence, and expect him to score a hat trick coming off the bench for 10mins at a time.

oh, and btw, wright is not a CF. too lightweight, and can barely head the ball.
he's a winger.
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So robins and lampard have both messed ellis around because they dont know what they've got and its absolutely nothing to do with the fact he offers almost fuck all most games
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #515
mmttww said:
I think Wright is the better footballer, but you're not being fair here. He got three in one game where he was brilliant, and a rebound when he was stood offside in a game where he didn't show much.

Feels like Wright gets 'average' as his review when the same from Simms = 'sh*t'. Think there's some bias.

If neither scores regularly in that system, Lampard and the coaches needs to look at it if they want goals from that player. Neither is getting good through balls and neither is missing loads of good chances.
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Id say it’s the opposite.

People on here mainly find anything remotely positive as an opportunity to back Simms but as soon as wright has a poorer game he’s criticised a lot more.

Wright was even getting blamed for not tracking back for the Hull goal which was ridiculous.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #516
eyesee said:
the guy's been dicked about this season. he clearly is a confidence player, which makes the way he's been treated even more puzzling. just play the guy and the rest will follow. as it did last season. if we're not gonna do that then sell him to a team that will.
then we could buy another CF, drop him all the time, destroy his confidence, and expect him to score a hat trick coming off the bench for 10mins at a time.

oh, and btw, wright is not a CF. too lightweight, and can barely head the ball.
he's a winger.
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The way he’s been treated?

Hes not a charity case
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #517
SBT said:
Only three teams have scored more goals than we have this season - it’s a strange complaint to demand more goals from a lone striker position where pretty much every player we’ve tried there has struggled to regularly score. I’m just not sure this team is set up that way.
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Its about more than goals
 

eyesee

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #518
Evo1883 said:
So robins and lampard have both messed ellis around because they dont know what they've got and its absolutely nothing to do with the fact he offers almost fuck all most game
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robins had lost the plot after his spat with adi, that's pretty obvious.
and i just don't think lampard rates him. and he certainly wouldn't have seen his contribution last season.

Grendel said:
The way he’s been treated?

Hes not a charity case
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no, but a bit of man-management wouldn't go a miss.
if lampard is here next season simms will have to go. the pair aren't suited.
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #519
eyesee said:
robins had lost the plot after his spat with adi, that's pretty obvious.
and i just don't think lampard rates him. and he certainly wouldn't have seen his contribution last season.


no, but a bit of man-management wouldn't go a miss.
if lampard is here next season simms will have to go. the pair aren't suited.
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So its a managerial issue rather than a player issue ? I think thats incorrect
 

covcity4life

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #520
I think he's playing better than the last time I posted in this thread so that's something.

Still a ways to go though but I'm optimistic now he seems to be starting every game for remainder of season with wright on his left
 
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mmttww

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #521
SleepyGinger said:
Wright and Simms are levels apart
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Don't disagree when it comes to their attributes and capabilities. My issue is with similar performances getting different reviews. Also think Simms presses much more consistently in the no. 9 role for what it's worth.
 
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mmttww

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #522
Grendel said:
People on here mainly find anything remotely positive as an opportunity to back Simms but as soon as Wright has a poorer game he’s criticised a lot more..
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You're probably right. Like I said though, my issue is that right now, both have played the same position for a few games and folks are letting one game (Sunderland) make their mind up re: who offers more in that role.
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #523
mmttww said:
Don't disagree when it comes to their attributes and capabilities. My issue is with similar performances getting different reviews. Also think Simms presses much more consistently in the no. 9 role for what it's worth.
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Which performances?
 

eyesee

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #524
Evo1883 said:
So its a managerial issue rather than a player issue ? I think thats incorrect
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that's cool, you're entitled to your opinion.
i don't think lampard is the right manager to get the best out of him. that's my opinion.
he seems to be doing great work in the midfield, as you'd expect. but i don't think any of our CFs are doing particularly well under him.
 
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rob9872

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  • Apr 20, 2025
  • #525
eyesee said:
the guy's been dicked about this season. he clearly is a confidence player, which makes the way he's been treated even more puzzling. just play the guy and the rest will follow. as it did last season. if we're not gonna do that then sell him to a team that will.
then we could buy another CF, drop him all the time, destroy his confidence, and expect him to score a hat trick coming off the bench for 10mins at a time.

oh, and btw, wright is not a CF. too lightweight, and can barely head the ball.
he's a winger.
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In what way has he been dicked about? He's featured in 40 out of 43 games this season including 23 starts all in his favoured position and has scored 6 goals, only 1 at home. Whether you rate him or not, he's certainly had a fair crack and those stats aren't good enough. Hopefully he scores the winner at Wembley and things change, but he doesn't do enough. Unfortunately we have limited options there and Bassette is worse or he wouldn't start.
 
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