Please, no one say Tristram Hunt. He's a bigger knob than Millinand.
The labour party cannot have a leader called Tristram who was educated at Cambridge.
Have kept away from this thread during the election, there is enough arguing over on the SISU/Wasps/Council as it is. Now the dust has settled there is 1 viewpoint I read weeks ago that no one else seems to have picked upon,or considered.
That there is one leader who is more happy than Cameron that he won and that is Sturgeon,that the idea she wanted a 'progressive' (whatever that means) left alliance to lock Cameron out of Downing St was utter garbage.
His reasoning was that the SNP raison d'etre is independence , and that the best way of achieving that is a Conservative government, with little or no representation North of the border, and that every contentious decision would be presented as anti Scottish. Next year's Scottish elections would be run by the SNP on the need for another referendum to 'protect' Scotland against the 'wicked' Tories.
However if Labour had won but needed some kind of arrangement with the SNP, then despite all the anti austerity crap. the realities of office would have meant that unpopular cuts would have been needed, and that SNP would have suffered just like the Liberal Democrats. As he pointed out Greece elected a far left government on the promise of fighting austerity, and look what is happening there, huge capital outflows on the banks as people take flight, and a real expectation now that Greece will have to leave the Euro.
Sturgeon's daily rhetoric about locking Cameron out of Downing Street, was purely designed to drive English floating voters back to the Tories, and boy did it work.
Have kept away from this thread during the election, there is enough arguing over on the SISU/Wasps/Council as it is. Now the dust has settled there is 1 viewpoint I read weeks ago that no one else seems to have picked upon,or considered.
That there is one leader who is more happy than Cameron that he won and that is Sturgeon,that the idea she wanted a 'progressive' (whatever that means) left alliance to lock Cameron out of Downing St was utter garbage.
His reasoning was that the SNP raison d'etre is independence , and that the best way of achieving that is a Conservative government, with little or no representation North of the border, and that every contentious decision would be presented as anti Scottish. Next year's Scottish elections would be run by the SNP on the need for another referendum to 'protect' Scotland against the 'wicked' Tories.
However if Labour had won but needed some kind of arrangement with the SNP, then despite all the anti austerity crap. the realities of office would have meant that unpopular cuts would have been needed, and that SNP would have suffered just like the Liberal Democrats. As he pointed out Greece elected a far left government on the promise of fighting austerity, and look what is happening there, huge capital outflows on the banks as people take flight, and a real expectation now that Greece will have to leave the Euro.
Sturgeon's daily rhetoric about locking Cameron out of Downing Street, was purely designed to drive English floating voters back to the Tories, and boy did it work.
Lived in Scotland for 6 of the last 7 years and this was always her plan as the anti Tory rhetoric works wonders here. It doesn't matter that she was so disastrously wrong on oil and that 'austerity' has in fact not failed, she could say more or less anything and people here will vote for it. Generalisations of the English electorate will be all I hear about for the foreseeable future and I am concerned about the unionist prospects next year if they are being led by Jim Murphy.
Of all the peoples in the world it is in fact the Scots that I lose all patience for, quite frankly I'm sick of their blatantly boring and unceasing hatred of the English ! Cut the cunts loose and boycott their goods, stop subsidising their shitty sectarian existence and let them wallow in their appalling weather and midges and miasma of misery !
I'm all for Scottish Independence. They deserve their own country. I hope they realise all their talent emigrated to England and are doing very well here.
Have kept away from this thread during the election, there is enough arguing over on the SISU/Wasps/Council as it is. Now the dust has settled there is 1 viewpoint I read weeks ago that no one else seems to have picked upon,or considered.
That there is one leader who is more happy than Cameron that he won and that is Sturgeon,that the idea she wanted a 'progressive' (whatever that means) left alliance to lock Cameron out of Downing St was utter garbage.
His reasoning was that the SNP raison d'etre is independence , and that the best way of achieving that is a Conservative government, with little or no representation North of the border, and that every contentious decision would be presented as anti Scottish. Next year's Scottish elections would be run by the SNP on the need for another referendum to 'protect' Scotland against the 'wicked' Tories.
However if Labour had won but needed some kind of arrangement with the SNP, then despite all the anti austerity crap. the realities of office would have meant that unpopular cuts would have been needed, and that SNP would have suffered just like the Liberal Democrats. As he pointed out Greece elected a far left government on the promise of fighting austerity, and look what is happening there, huge capital outflows on the banks as people take flight, and a real expectation now that Greece will have to leave the Euro.
Sturgeon's daily rhetoric about locking Cameron out of Downing Street, was purely designed to drive English floating voters back to the Tories, and boy did it work.
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