Not a hope.
Cameron will be in a complete state of shock. He would much rather have had the dumb power greedy Liberals at his side.
Cameron is a classic elite europhile liberal. He hates the grass route Tories and they hate him. He now has to deliver a referendum which will see him supporting Europe against the wrath of many of his back benchers. This is a nightmare that will finish him in a couple of years.
No he will be leader of UKIP in September
Nah he'll replace Clarkson on Top Gear, Millibean - James May & Cleggy Richard Hammond.
Just got back from work (while I have it!) and got to say, fair play to this thread for staying sane, no great race mad bigotry and the like, a few views I may just disagree with... but all nice and civil.
Are you *sure* you're all CCFC fans?!?:thinking about:
Put £11.38 on at 14/1 got £170.70 back.
Havnt read the last few pages so........
Yvette Copper or Chuck Amunna are my tips for future leader
Bring It on
I left that in deliberately
Re Clegg
Just couldn't resist the greasy pole
Unfortunately thinking of his short-term future rather than his parties long term we'll being
Utter fool
I don't know how he survived their first party conference, must have been excellently marshalled
Brown's USP was that he *wasn't* Blair, he was a sincere politician who whether you agreed with him or not, had a personal integrity and a formidable strength of will and desire to improve society. Instead, they tried to smooth out the rough edges, make him Blair-lite (and of course he was never going to be Blair!) and so made him appear a little insincere and comical.
Milliband, they should have embraced his 'oddness'. He's a deep thinker who considers things, reflects, and has a wide knowledge of politics and political history. Again, they tried to move him more mainstream, and that was never going to work.
People simply didn't see Ed as a credible leader. He had worst ratings than all the major candidates, and that's before he even got elected. That and the fact that labour abandoned the middle ground and swung to the left.
The only way labour can win another election is if someone like Blair comes back.
Brown's awful smiling at the end of the debates?:facepalm:
I can see the logic in going with Ed rather David; they expected they'd be a lot of anger at the end of the recession towards the banks and big business which there is to be fair, so they thought somebody slightly to the center of the left would appeal to an awful lot of people after years of Blair, Major and Thatcher. Their thinking was sound; they just couldn't sell the idea or him as an individual.
milliband didn't even get the support of his own party - to go in as a leader propped up by the unions is a recipe for disaster. Politics is about the strength of leader. He put personal ambition before his party - he deserved failure.
Just got back from work (while I have it!) and got to say, fair play to this thread for staying sane, no great race mad bigotry and the like, a few views I may just disagree with... but all nice and civil.
Are you *sure* you're all CCFC fans?!?:thinking about:
A historic day with Labour fundamentally not getting what the play was and what the major issues were, fighting around health and all that but it was always going to come down to money and confidence in who could manage the purse strings and economy better and Labour didn't play hard on the fact that the national debt is still increasing, but just at a slower rate.
problem for them was they were the ones that escalated it.
it will be a long time before we see labour back in power
Still can't believe he did worse than Brown. I mean how is that possible? Brown was the guy who as chancellor relaxed banking regulation that directly contributed to the banking crisis.
Re Clegg
Just couldn't resist the greasy pole
Unfortunately thinking of his short-term future rather than his parties long term we'll being
Utter fool
I don't know how he survived their first party conference, must have been excellently marshalled
A historic day with Labour fundamentally not getting what the play was and what the major issues were, fighting around health and all that but it was always going to come down to money and confidence in who could manage the purse strings and economy better and Labour didn't play hard on the fact that the national debt is still increasing, but just at a slower rate.
problem for them was they were the ones that escalated it.
it will be a long time before we see labour back in power
Didn't he sell Gold reserves when gold's price was in a slump too?
whilst the conservatives ran a campaign avoiding to lay out policies and answering questions, but focused on borderline racial campaigning on the EU vote to fight off UKIP and scaremongering the the SNP would mount an assault over Hadrians Wall if people voted Labour.
"Mr Prime Minister, can you tell us what your plans are on Welfare?"
"Sorry, i cant answer that until after the election....but let me tell you this, if you don;t want scottish people controlling what happens in England then you must vote Tory"
"Mr Prime Minister, you haven't answered the question, what are your plans on Welfare?"
"Like i was saying the SNP, all Bravehearted up......"
ultimately this boiled down to a simple choice. An obnoxious but stable leader or a bungling clown - there was always only one option.
Now you mention that I think he did. Still as he declared in his last budget as chancellor "it's the end of boom and bust". Wait, no. That didn't happen either. Shit, no wonder he didn't hang around in the resigning stakes, Brown was awful by any standard but to be fair to Ed I didn't think he was anywhere near as bad as Brown.
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