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skybluetony176 · May 7, 2015

UKIP are definitely eating into the Tory votes in the north east, well Sunderland anyway. It will be interesting to see if this pattern continues across the UK. Although there's speculation that Nigel Farage is going to finish in third in the seat he's running for because the turnout has been higher than expected because people want to make sure he doesn't win. Its going to be an interesting night and I'm now debating how long I'm going to stop up.

chiefdave · May 7, 2015

There was a lot of talk of Farage running in my constituency as it was seen as very winnable. To be honest I think he would have won easily here.

Brighton Sky Blue · May 7, 2015

Has the BBC nicked the holodeck from Star Trek?

Huckerby · May 7, 2015

hope the exit poll is right. leaving the country if labour win

Deleted member 5849 · May 7, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
I'm now debating how long I'm going to stop up.

Wondering if any meaningful result will be declared before I fall asleep!

skybluetony176 · May 8, 2015

Deleted member 5849 said:
Wondering if any meaningful result will be declared before I fall asleep!

I was going to bed at 11, then 12. I think I'm staying up until one now.

Apparently Edd Balls could be in the shit which would be story of the night, although that results not expected that be in until 6am.

Nick · May 8, 2015

Do what I do with the football league show, record it and fast forward to the goals

James Smith · May 8, 2015

Why do ITV have 6 seats declared so far when both the BBC and Sky have only three?

skybluetony176 · May 8, 2015

Have to say. I've never seen my local polling station as busy as it was tonight. I wouldn't be surprised if it's one is the highest turnouts in decades.

chiefdave · May 8, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
Have to say. I've never seen my local polling station as busy as it was tonight. I wouldn't be surprised if it's one is the highest turnouts in decades.

Was the only one in mine.

James Smith · May 8, 2015

Channel 4 are also only showing 3 counts declared.

dutchman · May 8, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
UKIP are definitely eating into the Tory votes in the north east, well Sunderland anyway.

There was no chance of Tory win there so it was more of a protest vote.

skybluetony176 said:
It will be interesting to see if this pattern continues across the UK.

I think it will, but only in seats where it hardly matters.

dutchman · May 8, 2015

Deleted member 5849 said:
Wondering if any meaningful result will be declared before I fall asleep!

It's often around 4.00am before any statistically significant results are declared.

chiefdave · May 8, 2015

You're all lightweights!

I guess the question for the Lib Dems now is can they ever recover from this? They're losing their deposits left right and centre and coming 4th and 5th. In Castle Point they got 80 votes. They might have expected it to be bad but they wouldn't have imagined it being this bad.

Looking like Labour totally wiped out in Scotland and potentially a clear sweep for the SNP.

The one thing all the experts are agreeing on is that there will be serious questions about first past the post and the whole way the political system in the UK works.

Tad · May 8, 2015

Well, everybody get ready. As it seems due to Labour being incompetent and people being gullible enough to believe the media that the Lib dems did nothing, we're going to see the tories back to their full nasty self.

Otis · May 8, 2015

chiefdave said:
You're all lightweights!

I guess the question for the Lib Dems now is can they ever recover from this? They're losing their deposits left right and centre and coming 4th and 5th. In Castle Point they got 80 votes. They might have expected it to be bad but they wouldn't have imagined it being this bad.

Looking like Labour totally wiped out in Scotland and potentially a clear sweep for the SNP.

The one thing all the experts are agreeing on is that there will be serious questions about first past the post and the whole way the political system in the UK works.

It's crap and an insult. I'm no fan of UKIP, but as it stands now at 6 a.m., they have 3.5m votes and 1 seat and yet the SNP have 2m less votes, with a total of 1.5m votes, yet have over 50 seats. How on earth is that a fair system?

The simple answer is, it's not and it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Prediction is Conservatives with 34% share, Labour also with 34% share, UKIP with 12% share, the Lib Dems with 8% share, the SNP with 7% share and the Green's with 4% share.

Yet we have another Conservative government. It's simply not a fair system at all and now, though the SNP only have 7% of the vote, they are now in position of power whereby they can argue to the PM that the austerity measures should be brought to a halt in Scotland, because they are the main party in their country by a country mile.

Huckerby · May 8, 2015

Tad said:
Well, everybody get ready. As it seems due to Labour being incompetent and people being gullible enough to believe the media that the Lib dems did nothing, we're going to see the tories back to their full nasty self.

Big bad people fixing the country

Otis · May 8, 2015

Huckerby said:
Big bad people fixing the country

Yep! Record levels of poverty and more and more foodbanks and even John Major himself said “How can it be that in a nation that is the fifth richest nation in the world, that in the United Kingdom we have four of the poorest areas in Europe?"

I'm so very, very happy everything is being fixed. Yay! I'll just go and see if the champagne in the fridge is chilled yet or not.

Astute · May 8, 2015

I didn't vote Conservative but had a feeling that they would do well under the present system. Scotland were never going to vote for anything but for their own. The Tories were never going to get close to the majority of people vote for them but do well with the same amount of voters as Labour. Even the bookies got it wrong. 6th May 14:35 I got 14/1 on a Tory majority. 7th May 17:31 I took 13/2 on a Tory minority government. But under the present system they look to either be getting a very slim majority or only be a couple short. Ukip are going to get more than a 1/3 of their vote and not have much of a say.

Covstu · May 8, 2015

Lib dems got it very wrong, starting out with little ambition and telling the UK public the same. The shift that they enjoyed previously should have been the building blocks to take more but failed miserably

Otis · May 8, 2015

Covstu said:
Lib dems got it very wrong, starting out with little ambition and telling the UK public the same. The shift that they enjoyed previously should have been the building blocks to take more but failed miserably

I recall pollsters saying back in 2010, that if people wanted to rise up against the government for the next coming 5 years, the Lib Dems would be the easy target and most likely to suffer badly as a result.

Deleted member 5849 · May 8, 2015

Covstu said:
Lib dems got it very wrong, starting out with little ambition and telling the UK public the same. The shift that they enjoyed previously should have been the building blocks to take more but failed miserably

They missed the chance to be a progressive force, and took the short term grasping of the crumbs of power instead.

They deserve to fail for that alone, but highly, highly concerning that they then let the country swing even more right as a result.

Right... who wants to give me a job!

Macca · May 8, 2015

I voted for neither of the big 2. However back to the point of Poverty in the uk. I would suggest this could be blamed on a number of factors caused by previous Labour and Tory governments rather than just one party

Astute · May 8, 2015

Covstu said:
Lib dems got it very wrong, starting out with little ambition and telling the UK public the same. The shift that they enjoyed previously should have been the building blocks to take more but failed miserably

The Lib Dems did a few things wrong. The biggest was getting into bed with the Tories. A lot of their voters went for them as they were not Tory voters and didn't trust Labour. My wife had voted Lib Dems for as long as I have known her. But she didn't vote for them last time and never will again. Ukip look as though they could become the 3rd party.

Macca · May 8, 2015

Well if Cameron dies stay in charge he has the opportunity to change the past and the way his party is perceived. If he doesn't they will not govern again for years

Otis · May 8, 2015

But just how much damage will have been done by then, Macca?

Macca · May 8, 2015

you could say that about any party depending on your political leanings I guess?

Macca · May 8, 2015

I am a working class bloke who works damn hard for 30k a year. My wife works part time and we pay for childcare. I have enough and a little extra, I think I get out what I put in. I've lived through Labour and Tory Governments and they have both let me down. If I have to live under one then I guess by an absolute whisker it would the Tories but neither get my vote

Otis · May 8, 2015

Macca said:
I am a working class bloke who works damn hard for 30k a year. My wife works part time and we pay for childcare. I have enough and a little extra, I think I get out what I put in. I've lived through Labour and Tory Governments and they have both let me down. If I have to live under one then I guess by an absolute whisker it would the Tories but neither get my vote

I've been a floating for the most part, even though deep down, I would say I am a socialist at heart, but I have voted for all 3 major parties before. Thatcher changed all that for me though and I have never voted Tory again since, cos for me, that woman did irreparable damage to this country and made us a greedier, less caring society.

Think last time I voted Lib Dem and this time I have voted Green.

Fed up with nearly all politicians to be honest with you.

Macca · May 8, 2015

Otis said:
I've been a floating for the most part, even though deep down, I would say I am a socialist at heart, but I have voted for all 3 major parties before. Thatcher changed all that for me though and I have never voted Tory again since, cos for me, that woman did irreparable damage to this country and made us a greedier, less caring society.

Think last time I voted Lib Dem and this time I have voted Green.

Fed up with nearly all politicians to be honest with you.

Agreed on that. I must admit that I fall into a portion of society that doesn't feel the maximum effect of Government policy which perhaps makes me less passionate on certain issues. I welcome a referendum on Europe which the Tories have promised

bigfatronssba · May 8, 2015

Said it before but I think that's Labour finished. They'll never get Scotland back, and it's quite clear that they will always struggle to get a majority in England.

Otis · May 8, 2015

bigfatronssba said:
Said it before but I think that's Labour finished. They'll never get Scotland back, and it's quite clear that they will always struggle to get a majority in England.

Cue a call for PR.

The system is definitely wrong. But like you say, if Labour have lost Scotland forever, then surely they can't govern again in England can they?

bigfatronssba · May 8, 2015

Otis said:
Cue a call for PR.

The system is definitely wrong. But like you say, if Labour have lost Scotland forever, then surely they can't govern again in England can they?

Well it gets mentioned that without Scotland the tories would have been in power unbroken between 1950-1997. The reality is if it weren't for Scotland, England would have gotten sick of the tories much quicker. That will probably happen in England in the future now to be honest.

As for PR, it will be interesting to see the lib dems position on it now, as fptp has probably saved it from complete wipeout.

Otis · May 8, 2015

bigfatronssba said:
Well it gets mentioned that without Scotland the tories would have been in power unbroken between 1950-1997. The reality is if it weren't for Scotland, England would have gotten sick of the tories much quicker. That will probably happen in England in the future now to be honest.

As for PR, it will be interesting to see the lib dems position on it now, as fptp has probably saved it from complete wipeout.

Well Nick Clegg says Lib Dems are the party of integrity and fairness, so he has to stick by PR surely.

James Smith · May 8, 2015

chiefdave said:
You're all lightweights!

I guess the question for the Lib Dems now is can they ever recover from this? They're losing their deposits left right and centre and coming 4th and 5th. In Castle Point they got 80 votes. They might have expected it to be bad but they wouldn't have imagined it being this bad.

Looking like Labour totally wiped out in Scotland and potentially a clear sweep for the SNP.

The one thing all the experts are agreeing on is that there will be serious questions about first past the post and the whole way the political system in the UK works.

Funnily enough I had a customer who yesterday predicted something like this. Scottish and said that the SNP would romp home and crush Labour and the Liberals. He'd voted when the polls opened and then flown south for work yesterday and today. He said that he'd voted SNP and was proud to have done so.

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