Some fans on twitter suggesting that teams like Cov are scared of playing out the season as they've got "a lot to lose", ignoring the trajectory Cov are on. The only thing we've got to lose is a club record points tally based on current form.
If the league was won based on hypothesising, predicting & ability to generate "what if" & wish list scenarios, Peterborough would have run away with the league.
As it is though the league is won based on points accumulated on matches actually played, and they are some way behind us due to their lack of quality compared to us.
Nah they'd have been 2nd to SunderlandIf the league was won based on hypothesising, predicting & ability to generate "what if" & wish list scenarios, Peterborough would have run away with the league.
As it is though the league is won based on points accumulated on matches actually played, and they are some way behind us due to their lack of quality compared to us.
Wolves got 103 points and Sheffield United got 100 a few seasons agoThink I'm right in saying if we won all our remaining matches we'd equal the League 1 points record too - just as likely as the collapse they're predicting.
Wolves got 103 points and Sheffield United got 100 a few seasons ago
Two more games?Wolves got 103 points and Sheffield United got 100 a few seasons ago
don't see the cash-strapped clubs backing null & void as threatens TV money and possibly solidarity payments. Also EFL then have a big problem between League 2 & 1 (and possibly championship) re: promotion & relegationThe failure to hold the meeting for a second day is not encouraging imho.
Parry and the EFL want PPG. But they need the clubs to endorse it, as they don't have the authority to insist on it. They only need a simple majority, (although I have seen elsewhere that they need a 75% vote). The delay implies Parry is struggling to get a majority.
We also need to fear null and void by accident becoming the default as DM decides he would rather nobody is promoted if he doesn't get his chance to be promoted - a kamikaze approach, but one which makes the power point. He might prefer that as second best in order to kill PPG as a concept.
Very true, we are easily the best all round team in this division, personally I think if we had to finish the season we would just extend our lead at the top. Best Manager, best defence, as good a midfield as anyone in this league, good enough attacking options. Even if we lost our loan players we would still be good enough IMO. My main worry is that we end up with another situation like we have with Sunderland, where forever people find some way to use a PPG resolution against us, like what is already happening on twitter. We have to be prepared for that.Empty vessels (such as the fans on twitter you spoke of) make the most noise and should know better. Unlike DM who has gone on and on about finding some kind of backdoor to get into the Championship (while dragging other teams into his schemes), we've been very calm and collected through this whole arduous process of learning the fate of League 1. In the very beginning we were ready to play out the season. But as days have turned to weeks and weeks potentially to months, it seems sensible to find a way to end the season in a fair and just manner where more than 75% of matches have been played. That's not called being scared. That's being practical. With so many other leagues ending their season and finding a way to determine who is promoted/relegated, our expectations for League 1 to do the same is only natural. It's not like League 1 will be the only league that rewards those who deserve it and punishes those who don't. At some point we've got to draw the line, find closure and give credit where it's due. This cannot drag on forever as the financial repercussions of that are far worse (as more teams fold or lay off staff to keep afloat). For teams/fans who feel aggrieved that they didn't get a shot at promotion/playoffs (assuming there is no playoffs or that their team wasn't chosen for it), all I can say is that life isn't fair sometimes. We've had more than our fair share of pain and misfortune over the years (I think there's even another thread on this forum about that). So if we get promoted based on PPG (weighted/unweighted), I really think we've deserved it this season. We were on a 14 match unbeaten run at the time the season was cut short. I think we could have even extended that run (especially after beating Portsmouth, Sunderland, Ipswich and getting a respectable point vs Rotherham). So I don't buy the argument about being scared. We halted Portsmouth's winning run, Ipswich were in freefall after January, Wycombe lost their way after we hammered them in Dec, Sunderland even found a way to lose to Bristol Rovers just before this COVID-19 crisis to ruin their playoff chances, Rotherham lost to Rochdale in March just before this crisis...We were the team leading the form tables as well at that time. All things considered we damn right deserve to be promoted to the Championship as we've consistently been the best team throughout the season and there cannot be any arguments about that.
The failure to hold the meeting for a second day is not encouraging imho.
Parry and the EFL want PPG. But they need the clubs to endorse it, as they don't have the authority to insist on it. They only need a simple majority, (although I have seen elsewhere that they need a 75% vote). The delay implies Parry is struggling to get a majority.
We also need to fear null and void by accident becoming the default as DM decides he would rather nobody is promoted if he doesn't get his chance to be promoted - a kamikaze approach, but one which makes the power point. He might prefer that as second best in order to kill PPG as a concept.
...and if they run out of time?don't see the cash-strapped clubs backing null & void as threatens TV money and possibly solidarity payments. Also EFL then have a big problem between League 2 & 1 (and possibly championship) re: promotion & relegation
FA can still veto any move to change promotion and relegation rules
Personally I think we would go on and win promotion ‘but there is a lot of credence givenDamn right i wanna get promoted rather thab risk missing out on top 2. any fan thatvsays we have zeronchance of ballsing it up are just bias
Steve Evans has said Gills need to be involved in the extended play off
The failure to hold the meeting for a second day is not encouraging imho.
Parry and the EFL want PPG. But they need the clubs to endorse it, as they don't have the authority to insist on it. They only need a simple majority, (although I have seen elsewhere that they need a 75% vote). The delay implies Parry is struggling to get a majority.
We also need to fear null and void by accident becoming the default as DM decides he would rather nobody is promoted if he doesn't get his chance to be promoted - a kamikaze approach, but one which makes the power point. He might prefer that as second best in order to kill PPG as a concept.
We're top and people are talking about us struggling in the Championship next season. Would make the league a complete joke if they ended up promoting the team in 11th!Steve Evans has said Gills need to be involved in the extended play off
It's an inevitable consequence of extending it down a couple of teams, if the team in 7th isn't happy they add two more and the team in 9th isn't happy so they go for 8 teams then the one in 11th isn't happy and so and and so forth. Playoffs are 3-6 at the end of the season, due to unforeseen circumstances this season has ended early, 3-6 playoffs and stop messing around.The league has a format set out. Top 2 go up and then the next 4 in playoffs. As far as I'm concerned the only valid reason to change that is if the play offs can't take place, then you have to decide if its just 2 up or the top 3.
I get clubs fighting their corner but wanting to change the format of the competition at the expense of potentially putting other clubs out of business is taking things too far.
Excellent post . There are rules in place pertaining to the format of the competition. Any deviation will create a president and potential for a club to litigate in future seasonsThe league has a format set out. Top 2 go up and then the next 4 in playoffs. As far as I'm concerned the only valid reason to change that is if the play offs can't take place, then you have to decide if its just 2 up or the top 3.
I get clubs fighting their corner but wanting to change the format of the competition at the expense of potentially putting other clubs out of business is taking things too far.
Excellent post . There are rules in place pertaining to the format of the competition. Any deviation will create a president and potential for a club to litigate in future seasons
Course he has, they're as close to Tranmere as they are to usSteve Evans has said Gills need to be involved in the extended play off
Not the format of a 4 team play offThe league two proposal already changes those rules though
Not the format of a 4 team play off
Which is why I think it won't happenThey propose to scrap relegation which still is a different rule and would open the door for other changes
Not been accepted yet though.The league two proposal already changes those rules though
They propose to scrap relegation which still is a different rule and would open the door for other changes
That’s not been ratified & the FA are insisting on promotion and relegation. As the NGB the EFL are bound to adhere to that direction. Therefore, the format remains in placeThey propose to scrap relegation which still is a different rule and would open the door for other changes
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