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EFL to end season this week - City likely to be promoted (1 Viewer)

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vow

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,541
pfceggchaser said:
Time to wade in a bit here. I’m not here to be OTT, but also offer some balance.

As soon as null and void went off the table, there was only one conclusion - to promote you and Rotherham. The two best sides I’ve personally seen this season. We beat Rotherham at ours in our best performance of the season, whereas we were a bit flat against yourselves. We’ll never know what would have gone on, but based on the key games you won just before lockdown, I think you would have won the league.

What annoyed me was what happened next and how this has been portrayed.

It turns out WPPG was an Oxford United designed scheme to go up in 3rd without the playoffs. I’m glad the EFL got a stat man in to look at both and they’ve now rejected that version. Not least from self interest, but just because all it did was distort the table and went for a projection method.

The club I have the most sympathy with is Ipswich. It’s going to cost them far more to curtail the season than to play it out. That applies to us too and Sunderland. It’s not true for the majority of the league though, which I accept.

MacAnthony’s conduct has annoyed me recently. Originally we were singing from the same hymn-sheet but he’s since started suggesting creative playoffs etc etc and now Barry Fry is banging on about WPPG again.

Hearing rumours that Oxford might have broken rank after a bit of a hissy fit in joining us the other day because of the WPPG thing.

It’ll be sorted soon. For us, I’m keen to either win our financial argument, or if we can’t, then just adopt the framework as per L2 now. Get on with it.

I hope to see you again next season!
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Who are ya!?

Genuinely, which team you on about?
Pompey?
 
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Magwitch

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,542
What threats ?
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,543
Interesting from Kenny. Accepts season is over and top 2 should go up and play offs is still an option.

Pompey boss' verdict on whether Coventry and Rotherham should be promoted automatically
 
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steve cooper

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,544
cc84cov said:
Problem is their flappers who are worried sick by threats from DM etc this will probably drag on weeks
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That's true but at least there is some justification / precident for those two options. Any other option is likely lead to threats from some quarter or other.
 
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Magwitch

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,545
vow said:
Who are ya!?

Genuinely, which team you on about?
Pompey?
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I actually hope it’s Portsmouth that come up with us and Rotherham, good place to go, if allowed, decent loyal supporters too, mainly and like us been through the mill a bit.
 
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jordan210

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,546
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Interesting from Kenny. Accepts season is over and top 2 should go up and play offs is still an option.

Pompey boss' verdict on whether Coventry and Rotherham should be promoted automatically
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Wonder if the salty 6 is become the sore 4
 
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BackRoomRummermill

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,547
By fxxxk if there is playoffs and Peterborough get knocked out I will probably laugh for about a week point my fingers at the picture of this person and say av that you waaaaanka !
 
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Mild-Mannered Janitor

Kindest Bloke on CCFC / Maker of CCFC Dreams
  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,548
I want Wycombe to come up with us, we need the 6 points and goal difference
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,549
pfceggchaser said:
Time to wade in a bit here. I’m not here to be OTT, but also offer some balance.

As soon as null and void went off the table, there was only one conclusion - to promote you and Rotherham. The two best sides I’ve personally seen this season. We beat Rotherham at ours in our best performance of the season, whereas we were a bit flat against yourselves. We’ll never know what would have gone on, but based on the key games you won just before lockdown, I think you would have won the league.

What annoyed me was what happened next and how this has been portrayed.

It turns out WPPG was an Oxford United designed scheme to go up in 3rd without the playoffs. I’m glad the EFL got a stat man in to look at both and they’ve now rejected that version. Not least from self interest, but just because all it did was distort the table and went for a projection method.

The club I have the most sympathy with is Ipswich. It’s going to cost them far more to curtail the season than to play it out. That applies to us too and Sunderland. It’s not true for the majority of the league though, which I accept.

MacAnthony’s conduct has annoyed me recently. Originally we were singing from the same hymn-sheet but he’s since started suggesting creative playoffs etc etc and now Barry Fry is banging on about WPPG again.

Hearing rumours that Oxford might have broken rank after a bit of a hissy fit in joining us the other day because of the WPPG thing.

It’ll be sorted soon. For us, I’m keen to either win our financial argument, or if we can’t, then just adopt the framework as per L2 now. Get on with it.

I hope to see you again next season!
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Good post and you can see now Kenny accepts a normal play off is best and also Oxford are saying it should be a play off for the 4. DM has had his little soap box session, and the ‘6’ is diminishing. Today’s news from Burton just hits home the financial crisis about to hit nearly 50% of football league clubs. What is happening now is nothing. It’s going to be a complete mess in the football league over the next year or so.
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,550
Having a gander through twitter and my god Peterborough have some dick head fans... Starting to piss alot of the efl supporters off
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,551
Accrington chairman has reiterated his desire to end the season on twitter so there is no problem there.

Still can't wrap my head around Ipswich, Lincoln, Bristol and Gillingham apparantly wanting to play on...
 

cc84cov

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,552
The EFL need to wake up they will not please everyone it’s just the way it is use their heads clubs can’t afford to play on end it PPG & tell DM etc if they wanna take legals then crack on I highly doubt they will even get anywhere
 
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Specs WT-R75

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,553
Philosorapter said:
I'm sure the setting up of the schedule can be dragged out for a few weeks.

What would happen if there is a second surge. I would want to play the weakest teams first. How can you possible setup a schedule which is fair?

If this is a problem then why isn't it a problem for the games already played?
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If football resumes then fixture order has to be in the same order it was originally scheduled for all teams.
 
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Specs WT-R75

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,554
Happy_Martian said:
I've said it in another thread. What's to stop other clubs suing the EFL or Peterboro/Dmac for humanitarian reasons citing that by being made to play on, they are being forced to put their staff, players and potentially any fans who do turn up at risk of contracting a known fatal illness, even with all the known preventative methods ? While I was interested in hearing DMac at the start, as this has progressed, his verbal diarrhea has gotten to epic proportions.
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Depends if the Prem and Championship are playing games. That argument won't really hold up if other football is going on...
 
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Specs WT-R75

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,555
Magwitch said:
I would assume any player who’s contract has expired and has secured another club won’t play or want to play, I wouldn’t risk an injury that could put a move in jeopardy.
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There's gonna be hundreds of footballers either out of work or taking massive pay cuts this summer. Yes if a player already has a deal lined up they might walk, but unless that deal is airtight it might not happen... however as long as players that leave are not allowed to play again until the start of the next season then it's same rules for everyone.
 
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MalcSB

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,556
Specs WT-R75 said:
Depends if the Prem and Championship are playing games. That argument won't really hold up if other football is going on...
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There’s a completely different financial context in League 1.
 

Evo1883

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,557
On a lighter note I'm just about to start watching Sunderland till I die 2 on Netflix whilst reminding myself they've not beat us since they came down and 3 years ago they were celebrating our demise to league 2... Oh my days I hope we have good news this week lol
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,558
Evo1883 said:
On a lighter note I'm just about to start watching Sunderland till I die 2 on Netflix whilst reminding myself they've not beat us since they came down and 3 years ago they were celebrating g our demise to league 2... Oh my days I hope we have good news this week lol
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They were also all over this place in 2012.
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,559
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They were also all over this place in 2012.
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It's almost too bitter sweet
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,560
Evo1883 said:
It's almost too bitter sweet
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Wait until it’s offal before cracking open the champers
 
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Brylowes

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,561
Brylowes said:
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Wrong thread :emoji_worried: soz.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,562
SkyBlueCRJ said:
It still remains a ridiculous statement though. This was his full quote:
"The plan with Ivan Toney was for us to win promotion to the Championship, offer him a much better contract, watch him score 20 goals in the Championship and then he could be worth £20-£25 million,” MacAnthony said. “But that could be taken away from us without kicking another football.

It's hypothetical bollocks.
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If that's how they plan they're fucked. It's on a par with "my retirement plan is to win the lottery"
 
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Brylowes

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #1,563
After the 1 - 0 win over Ipswich I let it be known to one and all that should we go
on and win the league I’d decorate the pub in CCFC colours ‘Hmm well at least
I’ll have plenty of time to get the job done.
 
Last edited: May 19, 2020
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rob9872

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  • May 19, 2020
  • #1,564
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
If that's how they plan they're fucked. It's on a par with "my retirement plan is to win the lottery"
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I just read it as basically Ivan Toney is for sale. Suggesting what might be worth and capable of that is saying he wants about £4-5m now imo.

When we go up test the water. I like Godden, but offer him back plus £1.5-2m and a sell on. Definite upgrade imo and would be hungry for the Championship.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • May 19, 2020
  • #1,565
Lads, seen it mentioned a few times but there is absolutely no way we're getting close to signing Ivan Toney. We don't have anywhere near the budget and he'll have much more attractive suitors.
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • May 19, 2020
  • #1,566
Is today the day we go up as Champions?
 
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Magwitch

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  • May 19, 2020
  • #1,567
rob9872 said:
I just read it as basically Ivan Toney is for sale. Suggesting what might be worth and capable of that is saying he wants about £4-5m now imo.

When we go up test the water. I like Godden, but offer him back plus £1.5-2m and a sell on. Definite upgrade imo and would be hungry for the Championship.
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Who in their right minds are going to spend £4/5million on a third division player when there are going to be dozens of provern championship and even Premiership players available for no fee and perhaps more realistic wages. If Peterborough have banked next season on any Ivan Toney fee they might have a problem. Toney will be on a top dollar at Posh and I suspect DM wants him off the wage bill, wonder how long his contract is.
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • May 19, 2020
  • #1,568
My spidey senses are telling me it’s gonna be a goooooddd day today
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • May 19, 2020
  • #1,569
Naa doubt we will hear anything until friday. Meeting due to be today but we know full well it will not give us a defintive answer. The efl we're talking about remember
 
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Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • May 19, 2020
  • #1,570
Saddlebrains said:
Naa doubt we will hear anything until friday. Meeting due to be today but we know full well it will not give us a defintive answer. The efl we're talking about remember
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It isn’t the EFL voting they will monitor any meeting and work if they can with any decision, they will have an opinion for sure but by allowing any vote and going or attempting to go with any decision I assume helps their legal status.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • May 19, 2020
  • #1,571
vow said:
Who are ya!?

Genuinely, which team you on about?
Pompey?
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Pompey fan - posts on 'A love Supreme' a lot - the Mackems site (I do the same at times, and have been interested in their current viewpoint). Pompey have a pretty messy forum in comparison to us/Sunderland.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • May 19, 2020
  • #1,572
According to EFL Zone who isnt usually far off the meeting is tomorrow and vote is Friday
 
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Kingokings204

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  • May 19, 2020
  • #1,573
It has to be decided within the next week. Whatever way you cut it as the deadline is 25th and that’s Monday so they can be dithering idiots like now but in the end they will run out of time.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • May 19, 2020
  • #1,574
Brylowes said:
After the 1 - 0 win over Ipswich I let it be known to one and all that should we go
on and win the league I’d decorate the pub in CCFC colours ‘Hmm well at least
I’ll have plenty of time to get the job done.
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I take it that it's your pub? If so, can you say which one? - so we can visit post pub lockdown!
 
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Mcbean

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  • May 19, 2020
  • #1,575
Sky Blue Harry H said:
I take it that it's your pub? If so, can you say which one? - so we can visit post pub lockdown!
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Don’t tell him Pike
 
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