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WillenhallSkyBlues

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #1
After this mornings EFL statement where Rick Parry said that whenever games resume they won’t be with the fans in the stadium and will be tv and online only. How are we feeling about that?

Also any one got any idea about ticket refunds? I’ve got a fair few tickets for Lincoln and Accrington
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #2
WillenhallSkyBlues said:
After this mornings EFL statement where Rick Parry said that whenever games resume they won’t be with the fans in the stadium and will be tv and online only. How are we feeling about that?

Also any one got any idea about ticket refunds? I’ve got a fair few tickets for Lincoln and Accrington
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You'll be given access to view the games online for free rather than refunds.
I've spent a fair bit on Accrington tickets and I'm not expecting to see any of it back
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #3
I've got Accrington tickets and an iFollow season pass.

After the Accrington chairman was calling for the season to be voided I want a refund. Not bothered about my season ticket.
 
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better days

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #4
WillenhallSkyBlues said:
After this mornings EFL statement where Rick Parry said that whenever games resume they won’t be with the fans in the stadium and will be tv and online only. How are we feeling about that?

Also any one got any idea about ticket refunds? I’ve got a fair few tickets for Lincoln and Accrington
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It's probably the best that can be expected
Be interesting to see what's done about refunds
A gig at a not for profit venue for the end of the month has unsurprisingly been cancelled and the venue asked that anyone who could help change their payment to a donation to help them survive
I did so but guess that others would need the money and ask for a refund
Suspect most clubs will hope their fans can help in the same way
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #5
It's a poor way to end the season, think it would be better to end it now on a ppg basis, at least the season would have culminated in front of paying fans.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #6
better days said:
It's probably the best that can be expected
Be interesting to see what's done about refunds
A gig at a not for profit venue for the end of the month has unsurprisingly been cancelled and the venue asked that anyone who could help change their payment to a donation to help them survive
I did so but guess that others would need the money and ask for a refund
Suspect most clubs will hope their fans can help in the same way
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I think more will be inclined to help their own clubs but not sure they will want to give hundreds to other teams for away tickets.
 

hill83

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #7
I’ve been saying end it now, but more than happy with it being finished properly. Shit one there will be no fans there but everything is shit at the moment. At least there will be something to watch on tv.
 
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higgs

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #8
Will it be like pre season games when we return throwing up funny results or will we be able to keep our momentum going to the end

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better days

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #9
Nick said:
I think more will be inclined to help their own clubs but not sure they will want to give hundreds to other teams for away tickets.
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I see that Nick
I suppose depends on which club it is
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #10
fernandopartridge said:
It's a poor way to end the season, think it would be better to end it now on a ppg basis, at least the season would have culminated in front of paying fans.
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Why is it a poor way to end the season and why would it be better now to end it on a ppg basis? At least by playing behind closed doors clubs get the income from iFollow - which I can see vastly increasingly in popularity with fans of clubs in the EFL. I don't see the logic from a financial perspective ending the season now as this would leave clubs without any source of income for months.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #11
higgs said:
Will it be like pre season games when we return throwing up funny results or will we be able to keep our momentum going to the end

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If it is finished off behind closed doors, and we win the thing, it will be the greatest achievement in the clubs history, in my opinion.
 
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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #12
SkyBlueCRJ said:
Why is it a poor way to end the season and why would it be better now to end it on a ppg basis? At least by playing behind closed doors clubs get the income from iFollow - which I can see vastly increasingly in popularity with fans of clubs in the EFL. I don't see the logic from a financial perspective ending the season now as this would leave clubs without any source of income for months.
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They’re doing it for all fans for free though aren’t they? Not sure how this helps with club revenues?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #13
SkyBlueCRJ said:
Why is it a poor way to end the season and why would it be better now to end it on a ppg basis? At least by playing behind closed doors clubs get the income from iFollow - which I can see vastly increasingly in popularity with fans of clubs in the EFL. I don't see the logic from a financial perspective ending the season now as this would leave clubs without any source of income for months.
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On the other hand there is limited income from TV, and now the club is on the hook to pay 100% wages against very diminished income, you can guarantee that people won't pay for streams in anywhere near the number that people buy tickets.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #14
How can anybody think Cov games, real Cov games available to stream for anybody would be a bad thing. I'd be absolutely buzzing in full kit off my tits. Smashing up my own bathroom, smoke bombs in the lounge hoying bags of shite at the missus.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 17, 2020
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Liquid Gold said:
How can anybody think Cov games, real Cov games available to stream for anybody would be a bad thing. I'd be absolutely buzzing in full kit off my tits. Smashing up my own bathroom, smoke bombs in the lounge hoying bags of shite at the missus.
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Business as usual for me
 
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ccfctommy

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #16
Skybluefaz said:
You'll be given access to view the games online for free rather than refunds.
I've spent a fair bit on Accrington tickets and I'm not expecting to see any of it back
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I would bloody hope so. Nine tickets for a Accrington I bought.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #17
ccfctommy said:
I would bloody hope so. Nine tickets for a Accrington I bought.
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Exactly, I can't remember what they were but that's about £150? It's not small change.
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #18
fernandopartridge said:
It's a poor way to end the season, think it would be better to end it now on a ppg basis, at least the season would have culminated in front of paying fans.
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No it isn’t. Given the circumstances, it’s the sensible and fairest solution.
 

ccfctommy

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #19
Nick said:
Exactly, I can't remember what they were but that's about £150? It's not small change.
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I have about nine Accrington and about six Lincoln tickets. Gotta be about 300 quid.
 

skyblueeyesrevisited

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #20
Not a penny more brigade will be delighted
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #21
ccfctommy said:
I have about nine Accrington and about six Lincoln tickets. Gotta be about 300 quid.
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Exactly, its not a few pence.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #22
skyblueeyesrevisited said:
Not a penny more brigade will be delighted
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They won't watch because we would still be playing in Birmingham
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #23
fernandopartridge said:
On the other hand there is limited income from TV, and now the club is on the hook to pay 100% wages against very diminished income, you can guarantee that people won't pay for streams in anywhere near the number that people buy tickets.
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Well unless you have a crystal ball you can't guarantee it I'm afraid. Given that no pubs are open and everyone is stuck at home I personally think there would be more opportunity for iFollow to be a successful alternative. IMO the vast majority of those that watch the streams probably don't go to matches anyway so I don't see how you can include those into the mix. Equally, given that the club will be reliant on a paid-for streaming service to remain solvent, I think a huge proportion of fans would be willing to dip into their pockets to help.

Revenue will obviously be down significantly, but your alternative to do nothing isn't an option. Especially as the Premier League and EFL could very well follow the lead of Bundesliga and Seria A, who are already in discussions about not letting fans into their stadiums until next year.
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #24
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
They’re doing it for all fans for free though aren’t they? Not sure how this helps with club revenues?
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Where have you heard that? I physically don't see how that can be true
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #25
Not sure what else the EFL could do really. Think this would be a good move. The real problem is what happens next season.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #26
Skybluefaz said:
If it is finished off behind closed doors, and we win the thing, it will be the greatest achievement in the clubs history, in my opinion.
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Yeah I’m feeling very nervous about a loss of momentum and some very tricky games coming up.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #27
The cancellation argument is based on the principle that we get this out of the way then we start the next season when it's done. it isn't going away, I'd be very surprised if we didn't have to lock down next autumn/winter and then you're starting a precedent that the season is voided when interrupted, so that one gets cancelled and so on and so forth. Once you get to that point why bother going to games or giving a shit what happens as any game could not matter, I wouldn't be buying my season ticket or have anything like the involvement. If we get this season finished (9 games behind closed doors, 2 or 3 a week is so easy) then we can focus entirely on next season and work out how best to deal with those problems when they arise.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #28
I'd rather finish the season then abandon it so if that means behind closed doors then it will have to be that way.
 
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ccfcricoh

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #29
Liquid Gold said:
The cancellation argument is based on the principle that we get this out of the way then we start the next season when it's done. it isn't going away, I'd be very surprised if we didn't have to lock down next autumn/winter and then you're starting a precedent that the season is voided when interrupted, so that one gets cancelled and so on and so forth. Once you get to that point why bother going to games or giving a shit what happens as any game could not matter, I wouldn't be buying my season ticket or have anything like the involvement. If we get this season finished (9 games behind closed doors, 2 or 3 a week is so easy) then we can focus entirely on next season and work out how best to deal with those problems when they arise.
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Exactly this... this season has to finish, PPG is bollocks (and only talked about because were top), they cannot "guess" the rest of the season.

Whenever football comes back (even if behind doors) this season has to be finished before next can start. If that means this season takes us to September, then so be it. Timings will just have to be worked out. We've got a winter world cup coming anyway so that would screw with things anyway.

If theres another lock down, pause again, and start again, not difficult
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #30
chiefdave said:
I'd rather finish the season then abandon it so if that means behind closed doors then it will have to be that way.
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I think that is the way it's going.
I expected the remainder of the season to start behind closed doors but was hopeful of seeing a few games live before it ends but I've given up on that notion.
If they allow supporters back in for a few of the fixtures then bonus but I'm excepting to see the remainder of the season from my armchair.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #31
Most of the people who want the season voiding have a benefit in that happening people like Brady at West Ham.

The club can keep my season ticket money I don’t want a refund and I will happily pay the Ifollow fee to see us play more, this has been an exiting season and I have had my money’s worth out the season ticket already, but if I had away tickets I would want refunds on them for sure.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #32
ccfcricoh said:
Exactly this... this season has to finish, PPG is bollocks (and only talked about because were top), they cannot "guess" the rest of the season.

Whenever football comes back (even if behind doors) this season has to be finished before next can start. If that means this season takes us to September, then so be it. Timings will just have to be worked out. We've got a winter world cup coming anyway so that would screw with things anyway.

If theres another lock down, pause again, and start again, not difficult
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Yeah, people are stuck in the idea of the season being August to May, that is out of the window with coronavirus and the world cup coming up. Lets just finish games when we can and move onto the next one, when that is interrupted we pick up where we left off. then after 2022 we can work out how to normalise things.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #33
Liquid Gold said:
Yeah, people are stuck in the idea of the season being August to May, that is out of the window with coronavirus and the world cup coming up. Lets just finish games when we can and move onto the next one, when that is interrupted we pick up where we left off. then after 2022 we can work out how to normalise things.
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Players contracts and the infrastructure is built around August to May. It's not that simple surely?
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #34
Skybluefaz said:
Players contracts and the infrastructure is built around August to May. It's not that simple surely?
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Only because that is the season. I expect we'll just see players contracted to the end of the season as opposed to 30th June. The alternative is players just not picking up clubs and hundreds being out fo work.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 17, 2020
  • #35
Skybluefaz said:
Players contracts and the infrastructure is built around August to May. It's not that simple surely?
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Easily solved by not opening the transfer window or not allowing new registrations. The option at the moment for players is they stay with their current club or they have no club at all.

Using us as an example how many players will want to walk away from a potentially title winning season. That's potentially a once in a career thing.
 
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