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standupforcity

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #1
Eccles is getting left behind! Every time he gets the ball he slows the game down and we lose momentum. Our recruitment has been brilliant, and I can't see him getting much game time once everyone is fit!
 
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Matt smith

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #2
I don’t think he had his best game last night, but I do disagree that he slows us down.

I thought he did ok without being on the top of his game, very nearly misplaced a pass I think in the second half that nearly got them right in at Dovin.
 
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Gint11

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #3
Good squad player to have. Whether he’s a starter remains unknown for me. Had we brought in a Browne or Stamenic along with a fit Sheaf, Eccles doesn’t get in. Again, another player we may end up outgrowing but I also feel a bit harsh saying this.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #4
Funny that some had him.down as bossing the .midfield. when my view was more like this. Too many passes went astray for him last night.
 

Otis

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #5
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
Funny that some had him.down as bossing the .midfield. when my view was more like this. Too many passes went astray for him last night.
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In the second half for sure

First half I thought he was good and I rate him highly
 
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fatso

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #6
Excellent player, we miss him when he's not there, Bristol away being a classic example.

Players like Rudoni get to shine when Eccles is around to cover them.

He didn't have his best game last night, and like a number of others he tired in the second half, but he's a nailed on starter next Saturday, why? Because MR won't make the mistake of pairing Allen and Torp again.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #7
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
Funny that some had him.down as bossing the .midfield. when my view was more like this. Too many passes went astray for him last night.
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Uncharacteristically I think as well, hope it just still rustiness!
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #8
Said it before and il say it again

Eccles alongside Sheaf - very good
Eccles without Sheaf - Not very good
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #9
Saddlebrains said:
Said it before and il say it again

Eccles alongside Sheaf - very good
Eccles without Sheaf - Not very good
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Possibly, but suspect he's carrying a knock, hope so anyway!
 
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fatso

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #10
Saddlebrains said:
Said it before and il say it again

Eccles alongside Sheaf - very good
Eccles without Sheaf - Not very good
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Almost like they complement each other.
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #11
I’ve found another disciple
 
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JustWoody

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #12
Not sure what people are on about, for me Eccles had a very decent game last night against a team who’s MO is to target pressing the DMs rather than CBs, yes there was a few misplaced passes etc. but that is the same for all of the players + agree looked knackered towards the end but so did others as all put in a shift
 
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MalcSB

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #13
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JustWoody said:
Not sure what people are on about, for me Eccles had a very decent game last night against a team who’s MO is to target pressing the DMs rather than CBs, yes there was a few misplaced passes etc. but that is the same for all of the players + agree looked knackered towards the end but so did others as all put in a shift
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Even Rudoni misplaced a few passes last night.
 
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Monty

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  • Aug 17, 2024
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Looking at the stats. Eccles had 91 touches, made 79 passes. Pass success rate of 83.5%.Made 3 key passes. 3 shots, 1 on target. Torp 65 touches, 51 passes, 88.2 % pass completion. 5 shots 0 on target 2 key passes.Rudoni 62 touches, 43 passes, completion 83.7%. 1 shot 0 on target , 4 key passes. Torp was subbed so has less touches and passes but also accuracy decreases as players get tired so generally the 3 in the middle were very similar yesterday.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #15
standupforcity said:
Eccles is getting left behind! Every time he gets the ball he slows the game down and we lose momentum. Our recruitment has been brilliant, and I can't see him getting much game time once everyone is fit!
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MalcSB

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  • Aug 17, 2024
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Monty said:
Looking at the stats. Eccles had 91 touches, made 79 passes. Pass success rate of 83.5%.Made 3 key passes. 3 shots, 1 on target. Torp 65 touches, 51 passes, 88.2 % pass completion. 5 shots 0 on target 2 key passes.Rudoni 62 touches, 43 passes, completion 83.7%. 1 shot 0 on target , 4 key passes. Torp was subbed so has less touches and passes but also accuracy decreases as players get tired so generally the 3 in the middle were very similar yesterday.
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So Eccles had 50% more touches and made nearly twice the passes that Rudoni did. No wonder he looked knackered - and yet his pass completion rate was only 0.2% worse than Rudoni’s. And yet one is the messiah and the other is just a naughty boy. Is that because of the CV postcode on his birth certificate?
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 17, 2024
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MalcSB said:
So Eccles had 50% more touches and made nearly twice the passes that Rudoni did. No wonder he looked knackered - and yet his pass completion rate was only 0.2% worse than Rudoni’s. And yet one is the messiah and the other is just a naughty boy. Is that because of the CV postcode on his birth certificate?
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I suspect Ray Wilkins had a very high pass rate and % success
 
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MalcSB

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #18
You ar
Grendel said:
I suspect Ray Wilkins had a very high pass rate and % success
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And a very successful career.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #19
Grendel said:
I suspect Ray Wilkins had a very high pass rate and % success
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Unfortunately could be sold if no one else is, value,well if Sheaf s a twenty mill player you'd have to say Eccles is ten, realistically £ £4-5M.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #20
Grendel said:
I suspect Ray Wilkins had a very high pass rate and % success
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Nailed it I think, very similar!
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #21
“He misplaced a few passes” is a classic tell of “I don’t like him anyway and so only remember when things didn’t come off”

He also sprayed some lovely balls about first half, better than any of the other three.
 
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larry_david

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #22
Great player. One of my favs. Not everything went his way last night and you could tell he was knackered with 15 to go
 
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Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #23
He wasn't at his best last night but doesn't deserve a pile on.
It was a fast tempo whipped up by the crowd and he never really settled.
I like him and he's still learning. As been said already, he does seem to shine better when Ben Sheafs around.
 

SkyBlueGuy

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #24
MalcSB said:
So Eccles had 50% more touches and made nearly twice the passes that Rudoni did. No wonder he looked knackered - and yet his pass completion rate was only 0.2% worse than Rudoni’s. And yet one is the messiah and the other is just a naughty boy. Is that because of the CV postcode on his birth certificate?
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They do play slightly different roles. Eccles job is to drop back and receive the ball from the defence as we play out from the back. Rudoni has much more licence to move around the pitch, so won't always be available for the ball as we often play back and switch sides.

I like Eccles, I think he's a really solid player, but he did look a bit tired and as other have said maybe not 100% fit?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #25
Otis said:
In the second half for sure

First half I thought he was good and I rate him highly
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Yeah, people really need to watch the first half again, he played some quality balls. Even second half he did some good stuff/dirty work, just tired a bit as game went on. Rudoni was excellent first half but not as effective second, Oxford were making it harder for us and players aren’t fully up to speed yet. Didn’t help that the ref gave them everything
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #26
Eccles is a fine midfielder. No problem with him at all. Getting left behind?! By who? Amazes me how perfection is expected in high paced games
 
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skybluecam

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #27
He’s a great baseline and I’d never be disappointed to see him on the team sheet but I agree if we’re being ambitious there might be scope to improve the position.
 
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Briles

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #28
Cally Fedora said:
Eccles is a fine midfielder. No problem with him at all. Getting left behind?! By who? Amazes me how perfection is expected in high paced games
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I think it's because he's seen as a jack of all trades master of none. He's solid at everything but every other player in our squad has one quality that stands out.
 

zuni

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #29
can i stop getting shit emojis for not thinking eccles is the messiah now please ...awaits barrage of sit emojis
 
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zuni

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #30
brilliant lol love this forum ...viva le sheet
 
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ptr

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #31
I am absolutely biased when it comes to him because I think it’s class he’s a homegrown player playing every week for us when we are competing promotion. There’s lots he needs to improve on but I think he’s getting better each year. He’s a good championship midfielder.
 
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mmttww

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  • Aug 17, 2024
  • #32
skybluecam said:
He’s a great baseline and I’d never be disappointed to see him on the team sheet but I agree if we’re being ambitious there might be scope to improve the position.
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Yeah, exactly. Either he improves and grabs that role on the squad form himself or someone else will.
 

itsabuzzard

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  • Aug 19, 2024
  • #33
BlueSkiesForever said:
I’ve found another disciple
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Silly cult.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 3, 2024
  • #34
I've said it before and will say it again, he's a top midfielder at this level:

Player Comparison: Josh Eccles vs. Alan Browne vs. Josh Brownhill | FBref.com

Player Comparison: Josh Eccles vs. Alan Browne vs. Josh Brownhill
fbref.com
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Sep 3, 2024
  • #35
fernandopartridge said:
I've said it before and will say it again, he's a top midfielder at this level:

Player Comparison: Josh Eccles vs. Alan Browne vs. Josh Brownhill | FBref.com

Player Comparison: Josh Eccles vs. Alan Browne vs. Josh Brownhill
fbref.com
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Anyone who watches us play can see the player he is and has been consistently for us .
 
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