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  • Start date Jan 9, 2022
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napolimp

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  • Jan 26, 2022
  • #281
It's a Romanian family apparently.
 
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13th_choice_seamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 26, 2022
  • #282
Is there any suggestion that the two Earlsdon incidents are linked to each other?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 26, 2022
  • #283
chiefdave said:
Very true Pete. You can't continually cut, or even completely remove, services to support people and then be surprised when that causes issues down the line.

Obviously we don't know all the details of this horrible event at the moment but we do seem to be experiencing horrific events that could, and should, have been prevented more regularly these days.
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So nothing to do with “removing services” as none of the other cases were then
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 26, 2022
  • #284
Hard last night the woman in the co-op (seemingly the mum) was shouting something about the mafia. Likely someone’s misheard her say “my son” or something but still.
 

Terry_dactyl

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 26, 2022
  • #285
Fucking hell. That’s awful.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #286
Grendel said:
So nothing to do with “removing services” as none of the other cases were then
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Huh?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #287
Child was in the care of the woman who has been arrested. She has now been detained under the mental health act.

I take mental health seriously, but stabbing a child...
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #288
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Child was in the care of the woman who has been arrested. She has now been detained under the mental health act.

I take mental health seriously, but stabbing a child...
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What don’t you understand about mental health that means stabbing someone can happen if the necessary support and medical assistance is not available?

There’s obviously the question of guilt and consciousness and appropriate punishment but it does blow my mind that we aren’t aware that mental illness can mean people can be psychotic on occasion, including stabbing others to death and not be fully in control of their actions

Tragic of course and in this case, like the girl stabbed in the park, just incomprehensible for us ‘normal’ ones
 

olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #289
Sky Blue Pete said:
What don’t you understand about mental health that means stabbing someone can happen if the necessary support and medical assistance is not available?

There’s obviously the question of guilt and consciousness and appropriate punishment but it does blow my mind that we aren’t aware that mental illness can mean people can be psychotic on occasion, including stabbing others to death and not be fully in control of their actions

Tragic of course and in this case, like the girl stabbed in the park, just incomprehensible for us ‘normal’ ones
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Had she had mental health issues before this incident?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #290
Sky Blue Pete said:
What don’t you understand about mental health that means stabbing someone can happen if the necessary support and medical assistance is not available?

There’s obviously the question of guilt and consciousness and appropriate punishment but it does blow my mind that we aren’t aware that mental illness can mean people can be psychotic on occasion, including stabbing others to death and not be fully in control of their actions

Tragic of course and in this case, like the girl stabbed in the park, just incomprehensible for us ‘normal’ ones
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I'm going to be honest, some of the shit you are saying on this thread is a bit weird mate.

No one is questioning that mental health can't make someone do unsavoury things, but stabbing a child? That isn't exactly something you see every day is it? I'm not sure why, but it almost comes across as if you are trying to apologise for her.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #291
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I'm going to be honest, some of the shit you are saying on this thread is a bit weird mate.

No one is questioning that mental health can't make someone do unsavoury things, but stabbing a child? That isn't exactly something you see every day is it? I'm not sure why, but it almost comes across as if you are trying to apologise for her.
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I can’t quite believe what I’m reading on this thread in all honesty.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #292
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I'm going to be honest, some of the shit you are saying on this thread is a bit weird mate.

No one is questioning that mental health can't make someone do unsavoury things, but stabbing a child? That isn't exactly something you see every day is it? I'm not sure why, but it almost comes across as if you are trying to apologise for her.
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Why? It so frustrates me that there are so many holes in our support services.
Not apologising for her, how could I even know the circumstances?
Ive supported friends with psychosis and other mental health issues that haven’t known what they’ve done.

Sorry to frustrate you
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #293
Sky Blue Pete said:
Why? It so frustrates me that there are so many holes in our support services.
Not apologising for her, how could I even know the circumstances?
Ive supported friends with psychosis and other mental health issues that haven’t known what they’ve done.

Sorry to frustrate you
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Do you think Dennis Neilson would have just been a normal guy if he’d popped round for a bit of CRT at the taxpayers expense?
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #294
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I can’t quite believe what I’m reading on this thread in all honesty.
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can’t we just hang her and be done with it
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #295
Grendel said:
Do you think Dennis Neilson would have just been a normal guy if he’d popped round for a bit of CRT at the taxpayers expense?
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Was he mad?
 
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JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #296
Grendel said:
can’t we just hang her and be done with it
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No.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #297
Sky Blue Pete said:
Was he mad?
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No sitting dead corpses around the dining room and chatting to them so he wasn’t lonely - thinking about it he was an all round normal guy
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #298
JAM See said:
No.
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Shame - you’d put a dog down for attacking a child
 

JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #299
Grendel said:
Shame - you’d put a dog down for attacking a child
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Not sure what your point is, please elaborate.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #300
Grendel said:
can’t we just hang her and be done with it
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I mean if she's actually suffered psychosis who are you to sign the death warrant? We don't have enough information to see how mentally culpable she is.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #301
Confirmed on the Sun as the grandmother
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #302
Nick said:
Confirmed on the Sun as the grandmother
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Fucking hell. Incomprehensible
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #303
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I mean if she's actually suffered psychosis who are you to sign the death warrant? We don't have enough information to see how mentally culpable she is.
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great let’s get the tea and cakes out and give her a group hug
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #304
Jesus. You would think that if it's the grandmother, the family must have had some inkling as to her mental state? Sympathy for the parents, poor kid.
 

JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #305
RegTheDonk said:
Jesus. You would think that if it's the grandmother, the family must have had some inkling as to her mental state? Sympathy for the parents, poor kid.
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As @Grendel says...

"Hang her from the neck until she's dead"
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #306
JAM See said:
As @Grendel says...

"Hang her from the neck until she's dead"
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What do you want to do? Understand her issues and okay a game of beetle drive? Out of interest would you ever want her as a next door neighbour
 
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LastGarrison

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #307
Grendel said:
No sitting dead corpses around the dining room and chatting to them so he wasn’t lonely - thinking about it he was an all round normal guy
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I know I shouldn’t but...........




 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #308
Grendel said:
No sitting dead corpses around the dining room and chatting to them so he wasn’t lonely - thinking about it he was an all round normal guy
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I’m unsure what you are trying to say. Fuck whether someone is mad kill them anyway?
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #309
Sky Blue Pete said:
I’m unsure what you are trying to say. Fuck whether someone is mad kill them anyway?
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No I’m saying someone who murders a child they it seems are related to has little empathy from me and I don’t want to see them ever in society again
 
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13th_choice_seamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #310
What a horribly sad thing to happen. What sort of situation would lead a woman to kill her own grandchild in front of his mother?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #311
13th_choice_seamer said:
What a horribly sad thing to happen. What sort of situation would lead a woman to kill her own grandchild in front of his mother?
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We should give granny a hug. She has issues.
 

JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #312
Grendel said:
What do you want to do? Understand her issues and okay a game of beetle drive? Out of interest would you ever want her as a next door neighbour
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What bit of

"Hang her from the neck until she's dead"

do you not understand?

Honestly, the intellectual capacity of some posters on here really makes the heart sink.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #313
JAM See said:
What bit of

"Hang her from the neck until she's dead"

do you not understand?
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Would you want her next door as your 5 year old plays in the garden? I doubt it
 
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13th_choice_seamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #314
Grendel said:
We should give granny a hug. She has issues.
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I agree with your side on this - I meant horribly sad for the kid and his parents.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #315
JAM See said:
What bit of

"Hang her from the neck until she's dead"

do you not understand?

Honestly, the intellectual capacity of some posters on here really makes the heart sink.
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Well mr intellectual capacity I’ve asked 3 times if you’d want a child killer on release living next door to you.
 
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