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Dublin (Ireland) Stabbings (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date Nov 23, 2023
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Otis

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  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #246
Kizz said:
It's the normal every time a black person dies, my cousin was killed by police a few years ago and there's was protest over him but I didn't attend because the psycho was on his drugs acting like a lunatic Got stunned and died.
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There's violence and mayhem every time a black person dies?

Are you talking about the US?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #247
Otis said:
That's not my logic at all. I am asking why they were on the streets.

They were angry. What were they angry about? People actually had placards with "I am angry" written on them .

The bloke said the vast majority were law-abiding. There seemed to be an awful lot of violence. I am just puzzled as to why there was so much violence yet the vast majority were law-abiding.

Again, genuine question, were the rest just watching?
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Yeah a lot of people saw it as an excuse to go out and cause trouble because some poor people had been stabbed.

It's always interesting to see how People can or can't be called cunts because of their behaviour based on their colour.

Only need to look at the cheering of mindless vandalism because it was BLM but then frowning upon it because it's something else.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #248
Kizz said:
It's the normal every time a black person dies, my cousin was killed by police a few years ago and there's was protest over him but I didn't attend because the psycho was on his drugs acting like a lunatic Got stunned and died.
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"Every time"???
 
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Fysnkysc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #249
Otis said:
There's violence and mayhem every time a black person dies?

Are you talking about the US?
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I would say the majority lead to crime. Both I the US and here.
 
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Fysnkysc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #250
Nick said:
"Every time"???
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If a black man is killed by a copper, you can be sure there will be violence following it.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #251
Otis said:
He did. But it's not the norm
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Sarah Everard?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #252
Kizz said:
If a black man is killed by a copper, you can be sure there will be violence following it.
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Pretty sure a lot of black people die, not by coppers.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #253
Nick said:
Yeah a lot of people saw it as an excuse to go out and cause trouble because some poor people had been stabbed.

It's always interesting to see how People can or can't be called cunts because of their behaviour based on their colour.

Only need to look at the cheering of mindless vandalism because it was BLM but then frowning upon it because it's something else.
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I would like to wait for the facts myself.

Happy to call him a c*not or whatever then.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #254
Grendel said:
Sarah Everard?
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Yeah but that was a cause because every copper is a sex offender.

You would think the way people went on in threads about police they should be thanking the Irish people for burning the police cars.
 

nicksar

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #255
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #256
Otis said:
I would like to wait for the facts myself.

Happy to call him a c*not or whatever then.
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Well I suspect the man with the knife wasn’t wood carving and accidentally shoved it into some children
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #257
Grendel said:
Sarah Everard?
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It's still not the norm though is it.

This seems to have happened because they heard the bloke who did it was a refugee/immigrant.

How much violence was there re Sarah Everard? Again, genuine question, because I don't know. I just heard there were protests. Did that turn extremely violent?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #258
Nick said:
"Every time"???
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There's been 25 unarmed black men killed by police so far this year in the states, not sure how many have descended into violent protest but I'm fairly sure we'd have heard about it if it was all or the majority of them.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #259
Otis said:
It's still not the norm though is it.

This seems to have happened because they heard the bloke who did it was a refugee/immigrant.

How much violence was there re Sarah Everard? Again, genuine question, because I don't know. I just heard there were protests. Did that turn extremely violent?
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Well the George Floyd protests did as have other protests in the US

Interesting headline

How the peaceful vigil for Sarah Everard turned to violence

Sequence of events that ended with clarion calls for Met chief to fall on her sword
www.standard.co.uk

What tends to be the norm is if a large group gather they tend to attract unpleasant people
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #260
Grendel said:
Well I suspect the man with the knife wasn’t wood carving and accidentally shoved it into some children
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And if he was mentally ill and/or had a breakdown etc.?

This conversation has been had on here before, but to me there is a difference between a terrorist attack with the aim to kill and maim and someone just flipping.

I have seen mental health close up front and what it can do to people.

I know people will laugh, but I worked with a lovely guy who had a mental breakdown, who actually, literally then went on to believe he was the king of Scotland.

All I am saying is, let's wait for the facts first.

Mental health issues can be an absolute tragedy.

A dear friend of mine was sectioned. She was the nicest person you could ever wish to meet, but she ended up in a mental health unit because she started to have thoughts of harming herself and others.

She is absolutely fine now by the way. You would never believe she could have thought that way if you ever met her.

Let's wait for the facts
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #261
nicksar said:
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you do love an internet weirdo
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #262
Otis said:
And if he was mentally ill and/or had a breakdown etc.?

This conversation has been had on here before, but to me there is a difference between a terrorist attack with the aim to kill and maim and someone just flipping.

I have seen mental health close up front and what it can do to people.

I know people will laugh, but I worked with a lovely guy who had a mental breakdown, who actually, literally then went on to believe he was the king of Scotland.

All I am saying is, let's wait for the facts first.

Mental health issues can be an absolute tragedy.

A dear friend of mine was sectioned. She was the nicest person you could ever wish to meet, but she ended up in a mental health unit because she started to have thoughts of harming herself and others.

She is absolutely fine now by the way. You would never believe she could have thought that way if you ever met her.

Let's wait for the facts
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Pretty sure stabbing people on the street is aiming to kill, isn't it?

What if the copper who killed Sarah everard had mental health issues?

What facts do you want to wait for? Regardless of his nationality he should be shot.
 
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Fysnkysc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #263
Nick said:
Pretty sure a lot of black people die, not by coppers.
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Oh for sure black on black crime is at a all time high.

But my point is when a black person is killed by a copper they're on the streets causing havoc.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #264
Kizz said:
Oh for sure black on black crime is at a all time high.

But my point is when a black person is killed by a copper they're on the streets causing havoc.
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That's not what you said originally
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #265
Otis said:
I know people will laugh, but I worked with a lovely guy who had a mental breakdown, who actually, literally then went on to believe he was the king of Scotland.
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Exciting times in Uganda?
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #266
Kizz said:
Oh for sure black on black crime is at a all time high.

But my point is when a black person is killed by a copper they're on the streets causing havoc.
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But this isn't true Kieran
 
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Fysnkysc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #267
Nick said:
That's not what you said originally
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I jumped in I assumed you was talking about when one was killed by police.

Of course they won't protest when it's black on black.
 
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Fysnkysc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #268
Nick said:
That's not what you said originally
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I jumped in I assumed you was talking about when one was killed by police.
David O'Day said:
But this isn't true Kieran
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It is actually, it's backed up by plenty of stat websites including official government ones, just like black on white hate crimes out number the white on black hate crimes. Just do a little googling.

<a href="Google.com"> click here for Google </a>

Oh look some html I hope ot works.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #269
Kizz said:
I jumped in I assumed you was talking about when one was killed by police.

It is actually, it's backed up by plenty of stat websites including official government ones, just like black on white hate crimes out number the white on black hate crimes. Just do a little googling.

<a href="Google.com"> click here for Google </a>

Oh look some html I hope ot works.
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read that again Kieran, are you pissed?
 
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Fysnkysc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #270
David O'Day said:
read that again Kieran, are you pissed?
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Drunk a little
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #271
Kizz said:
Drunk a little
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go to bed
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #272
Nick said:
Pretty sure stabbing people on the street is aiming to kill, isn't it?

What if the copper who killed Sarah everard had mental health issues?

What facts do you want to wait for? Regardless of his nationality he should be shot.
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Oh, how lovely.

If the copper who killed Sarah Everard had mental health issues, he should have been locked away in a mental hospital instead of a prison.

I honestly think the world has gone mad these days.

This is not quite the same of course and maybe I am wired differently (the right way I would say), but when it comes to the match threads on here and the team is announced, if someone is not in team who most believe should be in the team, you get a stream of posters on here saying Robins has lost the plot and hasn't got a clue what he's doing

My first thought? I wonder if the player is ill, or injured, or carrying a knock, or has a personal issue, or just wasn't good enough in training.

I don't just jump to conclusions.

With this stabbing, I want to wait and see what happened and why it happened and whether this bloke needs sectioning or charging.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #273
Kizz said:
I jumped in I assumed you was talking about when one was killed by police.

Of course they won't protest when it's black on black.
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Ffs. I'm pretty right thinking and I don't know where to start with this.

'One'
'They'

 
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Fysnkysc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #274
rob9872 said:
Ffs. I'm pretty right thinking and I don't know where to start with this.

'One'
'They'

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FYI I'm blackish. More dirty though
 
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TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #275
Kizz said:
FYI I'm blackish. More dirty though
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Chimney Sweep?

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #276
Otis said:
And if he was mentally ill and/or had a breakdown etc.?

This conversation has been had on here before, but to me there is a difference between a terrorist attack with the aim to kill and maim and someone just flipping.

I have seen mental health close up front and what it can do to people.

I know people will laugh, but I worked with a lovely guy who had a mental breakdown, who actually, literally then went on to believe he was the king of Scotland.

All I am saying is, let's wait for the facts first.

Mental health issues can be an absolute tragedy.

A dear friend of mine was sectioned. She was the nicest person you could ever wish to meet, but she ended up in a mental health unit because she started to have thoughts of harming herself and others.

She is absolutely fine now by the way. You would never believe she could have thought that way if you ever met her.

Let's wait for the facts
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The press reports suggest he had no mental health issues
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #277
Any kind of terrorist/murderer has mental health issues to a degree surely. Its not really a get out clause is it.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #278
Grendel said:
The press reports suggest he had no mental health issues
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And the press are often wrong.

Happened many a time.

If it was a terrorist attack, it's a very worrying new trend feasibly. Most terrorists seem to target adults re stabbings and shootings don't they.

Bombs are different of course, but if he was actually targeting children as some sort of jihadist/terrorist calling, that is of enormous concern.

Utterly sickening too of course.

I di expect more repercussions from this unfortunately.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #279
TomRad85 said:
Any kind of terrorist/murderer has mental health issues to a degree surely. Its not really a get out clause is it.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
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No it isn’t - the last report says they aren’t now ruling out terrorist
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 25, 2023
  • #280
Otis said:
Oh, how lovely.

If the copper who killed Sarah Everard had mental health issues, he should have been locked away in a mental hospital instead of a prison.

I honestly think the world has gone mad these days.

This is not quite the same of course and maybe I am wired differently (the right way I would say), but when it comes to the match threads on here and the team is announced, if someone is not in team who most believe should be in the team, you get a stream of posters on here saying Robins has lost the plot and hasn't got a clue what he's doing

My first thought? I wonder if the player is ill, or injured, or carrying a knock, or has a personal issue, or just wasn't good enough in training.

I don't just jump to conclusions.

With this stabbing, I want to wait and see what happened and why it happened and whether this bloke needs sectioning or charging.
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He put a knife into kids and their teacher on the street.

It doesn't matter his colour, age, sexual orientation.

The world has gone mad how it's "I hope they're alright, they might have mental issues". I'm pretty sure 100% of serial killers have mental issues. Doesn't mean they should be cuddled.

Imagine suggesting the copper who killed George floyd might have been suffering from mental health. You would have had the pitch forks at you.
 
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