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shmmeee

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  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,591
Esoterica said:
Who at the club could actually verify something like that and be worth verifying it with? All sounded to me like the only info he’s had is from Storey himself, who appears very much a self publicist and limelight lover, hence the willingness to be interviewed. Doug King has vanished, SISU won’t talk because of NDAs. We’ve had almost nothing from the club apart from what they want us to hear.
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I asked him that specifically. He said he’s double and triple checked it, said similar in the radio interview.

Sisu have released a statement saying it’s nonsense.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,592
AFCCOVENTRY said:
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It is quite funny seeing this poacher turned gamekeeper act
 

Telfer85

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,593
I mean I wouldn’t expect them to say much other than to deny it which they now have. They won’t to trip themselves up anymore

cant see it doing anything other than delaying the deal but yet again more shit we don’t need going on.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,594
Don’t think it will affect anything
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,595
So is the Doug King proposed takeover still on , in the balance, postponed or off ?
 
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steve cooper

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,596
This is all centred around one comment King made in an apparently off-the cuff statement in an interview. If sisu are correct that there is no truth in it, the whole thing should go away in the next few hours, I would think.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,597
slowpoke said:
So is the Doug King proposed takeover still on , in the balance, postponed or off ?
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I thought you knew?
 
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Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,598
Hopefully sounds like it's just the Hagrid wannabe after a bit more publicity, then. Please, whatever God's there are, let that be true.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,599
Storey should go back to playing music with ZZ Top.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,600
slowpoke said:
So is the Doug King proposed takeover still on , in the balance, postponed or off ?
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Just going through
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,601
Nick said:
I thought you knew?
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Knew what ?
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,602
slowpoke said:
Knew what ?
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"Big" Mike?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,603
Can’t see why it would delay the takeover TBH. Surely the worst case result is Sisu paying compo for breach of contract? Could a court even demand the King deal is undone?
 
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oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,604
why is it anything SISU does cannot be done without legal challenges getting involved

Not sure that Storey or his lawyers will get much traction from the EFL or courts

To do any deal with SISU the first thing they ask for is proof of funds - i assume this was done (not a betting slip but real bank confirmation)

That gets you to the negotiating table

Heads of terms are fine but have been proven in court time and again NOT to be legally binding.

Exclusivity periods have defined dates and are not open ended, they can be extended if both parties agree

the Storey exclusivity ran out on the 7th King deal announced 16th. Now i am not sure there is anything stopping King making contact before that and so long as SISU said no we cannot talk because of exclusivity agreement in place, (and didn't) .........then on the 8th they could. Is it possible to get a deal in that 7 days ready for the 16th? The problem for SISU is whether there is any evidence that they let the Storey deal die because of the King interest or in any way encouraged the King bid before 8th. The remedy if proven though would seem to be against SISU and most likely for the costs involved in the Storey bid, not the ownership of CCFC, because SISU were not acting in good faith.

I would think it will delay the EFL process as they will want to be sure, and given CCFC past history who could blame them but ultimately will not change it.

Just wondering if this is something that gives King the excuse to walk away, not sure it will. Not really for him to answer though really, he wasn't part of the Storey/SISU exclusivity agreement

The only thing that irks me other than that was the whining that went on because they were not allowed to bid for the stadium......... because of an exclusivity agreement. Somewhat disingenuous really.
 
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Telfer85

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  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,605
oldskyblue58 said:
why is it anything SISU does cannot be done without legal challenges getting involved

Not sure that Storey or his lawyers will get much traction from the EFL or courts

To do any deal with SISU the first thing they ask for is proof of funds - i assume this was done (not a betting slip but real bank confirmation)

That gets you to the negotiating table

Heads of terms are fine but have been proven in court time and again NOT to be legally binding.

Exclusivity periods have defined dates and are not open ended, they can be extended if both parties agree

the Storey exclusivity ran out on the 7th King deal announced 16th. Now i am not sure there is anything stopping King making contact before that and so long as SISU said no we cannot talk because of exclusivity agreement in place, (and didn't) .........then on the 8th they could. Is it possible to get a deal in that 7 days ready for the 16th? The problem for SISU is whether there is any evidence that they let the Storey deal die because of the King interest. The remedy if proven though would seem to be against SISU and most likely for the costs involved in the bid not the ownership of CCFC because SISU were not acting in good faith.

I would think it will delay the EFL process as they will want to be sure, and given CCFC past history who could blame them but ultimately will not change it.

Just wondering if this is something that gives King the excuse to walk away, not sure it will. Not really for him to answer though really, he wasn't part of the Storey/SISU exclusivity agreement

The only thing that irks me other than that was the whining that went on because they were not allowed to bid for the stadium......... because of an exclusivity agreement. Somewhat disingenuous really.
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A good analysis. I agree efl would want to be sure the deal couldn’t be overturned by a court. If this is easy enough to prove or Sisu have clear evidence contrary to the allegations by storey I imagine it shouldn’t hold it up too much.

However, if a court could rule Sisu deliberately held up the deal to sell to king cos it was better for them and they have to proceed with terms agreed with storey then that’s a different ball game and the efl I imagine would have to let it play out before ratifying anything.

This would be bad for us moving towards jan transfer window.
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,606
oldskyblue58 said:
why is it anything SISU does cannot be done without legal challenges getting involved

Not sure that Storey or his lawyers will get much traction from the EFL or courts

To do any deal with SISU the first thing they ask for is proof of funds - i assume this was done (not a betting slip but real bank confirmation)

That gets you to the negotiating table

Heads of terms are fine but have been proven time and again NOT to be legally binding.

Exclusivity periods have defined dates and are not open ended, they can be extended if both parties agree

the Storey exclusivity ran out on the 7th King deal announced 16th. Now i am not sure there is anything stopping King making contact before that and so long as SISU said no we cannot talk because of exclusivity agreement in place, (and didn't) .........then on the 8th they could. Is it possible to get a deal in that 7 days ready for the 16th? The problem for SISU is whether there is any evidence that they let the Storey deal die because of the King interest. The remedy if proven though would seem to be against SISU and most likely for the costs involved in the bid not the ownership of CCFC

I would think it will delay the EFL process as they will want to be sure, and given CCFC past history who could blame them but ultimately will not change it.

Just wondering if this is something that gives King the excuse to walk away, not sure it will. Not really for him to answer though really, he wasn't part of the Storey/SISU exclusivity agreement
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Been said on here earlier Doug King has instructed his legal team to stop talking to the EFL, if true why would he do that.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,607
slowpoke said:
Been said on here earlier Doug King has instructed his legal team to stop talking to the EFL, if true why would he do that.
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It was corrected
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,608
slowpoke said:
Been said on here earlier Doug King has instructed his legal team to stop talking to the EFL, if true why would he do that.
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No that was someone misreading. It’s Storey that’s done that not King.
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,609
Oh, thanks for that.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,610
Telfer85 said:
A good analysis. I agree efl would want to be sure the deal couldn’t be overturned by a court. If this is easy enough to prove or Sisu have clear evidence contrary to the allegations by storey I imagine it shouldn’t hold it up too much.

However, if a court could rule Sisu deliberately held up the deal to sell to king cos it was better for them and they have to proceed with terms agreed with storey then that’s a different ball game and the efl I imagine would have to let it play out before ratifying anything.

This would be bad for us moving towards jan transfer window.
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Not sure a court could force SISU to proceed with the Storey deal that was only agreed in Heads of Terms. No contracts had been exchanged or even finalised it would seem to me so i cannot see that the sale terms were binding, it was only the exclusivity period that was
 
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JonesBob

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  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,611
Is this situation where Doug King is acquiring 85% control of the company classified as a takeover? SISU are still, to my knowledge, a junior partner with 15% of the company.
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,612
In that event would sisu pass the fit & proper EFL test ?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,613
slowpoke said:
In that event would sisu pass the fit & proper EFL test ?
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Yes - they haven’t done anything to legally stop them from owning a company - people hang too much on the fit and proper test
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,614
oldskyblue58 said:
why is it anything SISU does cannot be done without legal challenges getting involved

Not sure that Storey or his lawyers will get much traction from the EFL or courts

To do any deal with SISU the first thing they ask for is proof of funds - i assume this was done (not a betting slip but real bank confirmation)

That gets you to the negotiating table

Heads of terms are fine but have been proven in court time and again NOT to be legally binding.

Exclusivity periods have defined dates and are not open ended, they can be extended if both parties agree

the Storey exclusivity ran out on the 7th King deal announced 16th. Now i am not sure there is anything stopping King making contact before that and so long as SISU said no we cannot talk because of exclusivity agreement in place, (and didn't) .........then on the 8th they could. Is it possible to get a deal in that 7 days ready for the 16th? The problem for SISU is whether there is any evidence that they let the Storey deal die because of the King interest or in any way encouraged the King bid before 8th. The remedy if proven though would seem to be against SISU and most likely for the costs involved in the Storey bid, not the ownership of CCFC, because SISU were not acting in good faith.

I would think it will delay the EFL process as they will want to be sure, and given CCFC past history who could blame them but ultimately will not change it.

Just wondering if this is something that gives King the excuse to walk away, not sure it will. Not really for him to answer though really, he wasn't part of the Storey/SISU exclusivity agreement

The only thing that irks me other than that was the whining that went on because they were not allowed to bid for the stadium......... because of an exclusivity agreement. Somewhat disingenuous really.
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King hasn’t suggested at any time he’s going to step away that’s just sbt bollocks isn’t it
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,615
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Did I hear right that Gilbert said King has instructed his lawyers to stop talks with the EFL?
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Here we go.

hill83 said:
I was thinking more along the lines of a conspiracy theory that he doesn't want the club now he hasn't got the ground, so will go in and shit on their desk or something.
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Get someone else to shit on the desk.

Edit: Or not, I’ve read further on now. AFCCOVENTRY you plonker. Cheers.
 
Last edited: Nov 28, 2022

slowpoke

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  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,616
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Yes - they haven’t done anything to legally stop them from owning a company - people hang too much on the fit and proper test
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They do have previous though administrations, HMRC debt, numerous transfer embargoes, in one now.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,617
slowpoke said:
They do have previous though administrations, HMRC debt, numerous transfer embargoes, in one now.
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That won't make any difference.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,618
shmmeee said:
OK this is slightly better

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Nothing more satisfying than a swiftly corrected “apologies incoming for me” smug post.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,619
hill83 said:
Nothing more satisfying than a swiftly corrected “apologies incoming for me” smug post.
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Not the first time ive been premature
 
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slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,620
Nick said:
That won't make any difference.
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I hope you are correct because if it does we could be right up shitcteek.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,621
Sky Blue Pete said:
King hasn’t suggested at any time he’s going to step away that’s just sbt bollocks isn’t it
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I haven't seen anything that suggests he would, just pointing to a possible event. Personally I think the deal is done and just waiting on EFL. As to whether he makes a difference or is any good as an owner I will wait see what happens....... has said all the right sound bites but I will judge him on actions not the fine words
 
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chinamans view

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  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,622
slowpoke said:
So is the Doug King proposed takeover still on , in the balance, postponed or off ?
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Told you it would delay things but you said not in your post to me in reply
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,623
slowpoke said:
I hope you are correct because if it does we could be right up shitcteek.
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We were up shit creek before any of this having to sell Hyam to cover short fall in cash flow
It’s the hope that kills
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,624
chinamans view said:
Told you it would delay things but you said not in your post to me in reply
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Well it shouldn’t IF King is just waiting for this EFL ratification formality but there’s been a curve ball thrown in so who knows what might happen.
 
Last edited: Nov 28, 2022

clint van damme

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  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2,625
The Philosopher said:
It does sound like Storey is the front for bigger dogs.
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What sort of "big dog' uses that pillock as a front?
 
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