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Doug King - Spineless (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Nov 7, 2024
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stevefloyd

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #71
Woke up this morning our king has gone
Now we are stuck with the other one !
 
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Mill88

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #72
Our problems started way back last season after the Wolves game with Dennis Lawrence leaving. Our league form after the Wolves game wasn’t great, but we were in the FA cup semi final so it kind of masked it. Then Adi Viveash leaving in the summer, totally out of the blue and no one knows the real reason why he was booted out. To me, i think that was pre-planned, because quickly after we had all these new coaches arriving - The club taking a new direction, following what most other clubs are doing.

Tell you one thing, he needs to get this right otherwise the backlash will be much bigger. The new ‘Head Coach’ will need to hit the ground running straight away.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #73
Mill88 said:
Our problems started way back last season after the Wolves game with Dennis Lawrence leaving. Our league form after the Wolves game wasn’t great, but we were in the FA cup semi final so it kind of masked it. Then Adi Viveash leaving in the summer, totally out of the blue and no one knows the real reason why he was booted out. To me, i think that was pre-planned, because quickly after we had all these new coaches arriving - The club taking a new direction, following what most other clubs are doing.

Tell you one thing, he needs to get this right otherwise the backlash will be much bigger. The new ‘Head Coach’ will need to hit the ground running straight away.
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@Saddlebrains said on another thread that Lawrence wasn't offered a new contract. That was the first time I'd heard that but it just adds more weight to the theory that this has been in the planning for some time.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #74
shmmeee said:
We’ll see. The impression I got from the press release is we haven’t even started looking yet.
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I think we'll have someone appointed early next week.
 

Mill88

Member
  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #75
clint van damme said:
@Saddlebrains said on another thread that Lawrence wasn't offered a new contract. That was the first time I'd heard that but it just adds more weight to the theory that this has been in the planning for some time.
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Probably true, could have been planned all along, even back then. I think this is the catalyst to our downfall we are all seeing this season. The honeymoon period is well and truly over between Doug King and fans. He has to get the next manager right!
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #76
clint van damme said:
@Saddlebrains said on another thread that Lawrence wasn't offered a new contract. That was the first time I'd heard that but it just adds more weight to the theory that this has been in the planning for some time.
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he lies for clout though

he got offered a better job elsewhere
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #77
Sky Blue Harry H said:
I think we'll have someone appointed early next week.
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Wouldn't surprise me if it is announced Monday morning
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #78
David O'Day said:
he lies for clout though

he got offered a better job elsewhere
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In isolation I'd accept that, with everything else that's gone on I just don't accept the club narrative on anything at the moment.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #79
clint van damme said:
In isolation I'd accept that, with everything else that's gone on I just don't accept the club narrative on anything at the moment.
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cool but it doesn't stop it being true
 
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Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #80
Bigelvesy said:
It hasnt gone unnoticed that this decision has been made when there is nearly two weeks until the next home game (also on sky)

A cowards decision to sack Robins now, and aim to control the reaction with his “fans forum” infront of a couple of hundred (at most) rather than face the music at a home game in front of 10’s of thousands.

He’ll hope to have a new appointment in place by then that will change the atmosphere and sentiment in the ground.

I have been firmly in the “Doug has good intentions camp” up until this point. I simply cannot get behind this decision and the manner in which it has been carried out.
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Like I said on another thread, considering how that narcissistic, cock breath twat is coming on the pitch after being in charge for 4 months, jigging along to his stupid song, front and centre of the squad photo, he’s now decided to take the coward’s walk and hide away all of a sudden…. Absolute disgrace of a man, no spine whatsoever.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #81
Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue said:
Like I said on another thread, considering how that narcissistic, cock breath twat is coming on the pitch after being in charge for 4 months, jigging along to his stupid song, front and centre of the squad photo, he’s now decided to take the coward’s walk and hide away all of a sudden…. Absolute disgrace of a man, no spine whatsoever.
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I accept you don't like his song (won't get sung again by City fans), I also get that he looks like a 'posh ex public schoolboy' which doesn't resonate with your average football fan, but this decision is hardly spineless (he knows how popular MR is with the fanbase). I think he'd made the decision before the Luton/Boro games, and has already got someone lined up. We;ll see who that is early next week. 99% of City fans love MR, and will be forever grateful for what he has done, but something has been off for at least 6 months, and DK has decided to intervene. It may be ruthless, but that doesn't smack of spineless. We will need to wait a few months to see if it was a terrible decision or not. Next 5 games or so are horrible though. PUSB
 
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Adge

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #82
Sky Blue Harry H said:
I accept you don't like his song (won't get sung again by City fans), I also get that he looks like a 'posh ex public schoolboy' which doesn't resonate with your average football fan, but this decision is hardly spineless (he knows how popular MR is with the fanbase). I think he'd made the decision before the Luton/Boro games, and has already got someone lined up. We;ll see who that is early next week. 99% of City fans love MR, and will be forever grateful for what he has done, but something has been off for at least 6 months, and DK has decided to intervene. It may be ruthless, but that doesn't smack of spineless. We will need to wait a few months to see if it was a terrible decision or not. Next 5 games or so are horrible though. PUSB
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Very sensible post-King may have not read the room fully but spineless he isn’t. He has made a massive call and only time will tell if it’s the right one.
Just a side note-another former Sisu employee bites the dust…….
 
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Darth Robins

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #83
clint van damme said:
@Saddlebrains said on another thread that Lawrence wasn't offered a new contract. That was the first time I'd heard that but it just adds more weight to the theory that this has been in the planning for some time.
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Just makes me hate King that bit more actually, it's a deliberate cutting out of Robins legs from under him so he's ultimately got the excuse to sack him and bring his own guy in. I'm glad most of our fans can see through it too, I think Doug is about to learn exactly what MR meant to most of us.
 
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jim20

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #84
When King came in, I feared he would want to put his own man in charge. I don’t think he should have messed with the footballing side, we’d had several years of sustained improvement, he should’ve let Robins continue doing what he was doing, and sorted all the non football aspects of the business, until a time Robins and his team stopped delivering. Instead he slowly and systematically changed the structure of the football side - something by his own admission he knows nothing about, and it seems to have backfired. He has then ripped the beating heart of the club out in sacking Robins, and not realised that football is about emotion, selling shirts and season tickets was about emotion, and Robins connected the fans back to what was a dying club,
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #85
For me King is your archetypal football owner. Cash rich yes, big ego yes, football nous no. It’s a scenario that has played out thousands of times. I believe that’s why we’ll end up with “a name” rather than necessarily a good manager.
 
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speedie87

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #86
The statement referred to the board making a decision.

who else other is on “the board”?!
 

Hobo

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #87
Bigelvesy said:
It hasnt gone unnoticed that this decision has been made when there is nearly two weeks until the next home game (also on sky)

A cowards decision to sack Robins now, and aim to control the reaction with his “fans forum” infront of a couple of hundred (at most) rather than face the music at a home game in front of 10’s of thousands.

He’ll hope to have a new appointment in place by then that will change the atmosphere and sentiment in the ground.

I have been firmly in the “Doug has good intentions camp” up until this point. I simply cannot get behind this decision and the manner in which it has been carried out.
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With current form it doesn't surprise me. However I believe Robins deserved more time, based on his track record and previously having turned poor form into good form.

King have had a honeymoon period with honey drizzled all over it.

He has made his call, which he is entitled to do but is taking a big gamble. If he gets the appointment wrong we could be back in League 1 and find ourselves in a tailspin.

It could kick us on and if that is the case I would be the first to congratulate him for his vision. However football history illustrates that most incoming managers fail.

Time will tell. But I think now the pressure is on King rather than the incoming manager. Future results will rest and be judged on his decisions.
 
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Chris1987

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #88
Bigelvesy said:
It hasnt gone unnoticed that this decision has been made when there is nearly two weeks until the next home game (also on sky)

A cowards decision to sack Robins now, and aim to control the reaction with his “fans forum” infront of a couple of hundred (at most) rather than face the music at a home game in front of 10’s of thousands.

He’ll hope to have a new appointment in place by then that will change the atmosphere and sentiment in the ground.

I have been firmly in the “Doug has good intentions camp” up until this point. I simply cannot get behind this decision and the manner in which it has been carried out.
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"A cowards decision " is utter bollocks. He's given himself time to find the replacement. It takes massive bollocks to sack a managerial legend loved by the fans . He stands or falls by this decision- its a massive gamble on his part. Spin is not a good trait.
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Nov 8, 2024
  • #89
The day he took over the club…
 

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GIMOC

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  • Nov 9, 2024
  • #90
have it on good authority. king contacted Robins at 12:30am to tell him he’s no longer required

thats appalling from king
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 9, 2024
  • #91
GIMOC said:
have it on good authority. king contacted Robins at 12:30am to tell him he’s no longer required

thats appalling from king
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Why? At least he told him
 
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Bigelvesy

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  • Nov 9, 2024
  • #92
Chris1987 said:
"A cowards decision " is utter bollocks. He's given himself time to find the replacement. It takes massive bollocks to sack a managerial legend loved by the fans . He stands or falls by this decision- its a massive gamble on his part. Spin is not a good trait.
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You’re not reading the whole thing and putting in your own punctuation.

i believe it is a cowards decision to do it so far away from a home game, to go into hiding until his orchestrated “fans forum” and refuse requests for national and local media to talk to him.

Also ABSOLUTELY ludicrous to sack Robins AND THEN start looking for a replacement.

Spin is exactly what he will do on Monday, he wont be held to account for it.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 16, 2024
  • #93

Neglect?
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Nov 16, 2024
  • #94
Its a ludicrous decision to sack a manager that has improved us almost year on year and taking a punt on a newcomer, oil those revolving doors!
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 16, 2024
  • #95
GIMOC said:
have it on good authority. king contacted Robins at 12:30am to tell him he’s no longer required

thats appalling from king
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Doug drunk sacking Robins was the twist this story needed!
 

MalcSB

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  • Nov 16, 2024
  • #96
Bigelvesy said:
You’re not reading the whole thing and putting in your own punctuation.

i believe it is a cowards decision to do it so far away from a home game, to go into hiding until his orchestrated “fans forum” and refuse requests for national and local media to talk to him.

Also ABSOLUTELY ludicrous to sack Robins AND THEN start looking for a replacement.

Spin is exactly what he will do on Monday, he wont be held to account for it.
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Far better to have gone behind Robins back and announced the new person on the same day as the sacking.
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 16, 2024
  • #97
shmmeee said:
Doug drunk sacking Robins was the twist this story needed!
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Your me bess fuckin' mate, but I'm gonna have to let you go, its breaking my fucking heart pal.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 16, 2024
  • #98
clint van damme said:
Your me bess fuckin' mate, but I'm gonna have to let you go, its breaking my fucking heart pal.
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'As you know Mark, there's gonna be some redundancies and you've made my life easier in that I'm going to let you go first.'
'What, why?'
'Why? Stealing, thieving.'
'What am I meant to have stolen?'
'Post-it notes.'
'Post-it notes? What are they, 12 p?'
'Ooh you got your bible on you Dr Claire? Thou shalt not steal. You steal a thousand post-it notes at 12 p and you've made...profit.'
'Are you serious?'
'Yeah. And the good news is I don't need to give you any severance pay 'cos it's gross misconduct, so you can go straight away!'
'Hang on isn't this a sketch from the Office?'
'It is but just to be clear you are actually fired.'
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Nov 16, 2024
  • #99
All this speculation that Doug King wants to bring his own Manager in when he took over!!!

Then why give Mark Robins the four-year contract, just doesn't make sense.
 
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