Doug King - calling it as it should be. (1 Viewer)

sneferu · Nov 8, 2024

Read a lot of stuff on here. Mostly negative towards Doug. My two penneth worth. I think Doug is doing what needs to be done. Also, I think he pulled the plug on Robins at the right time. He was going nowhere.

I have a lot of respect for Robins and everything he has done for the club. However, I feel he had run out of ideas, was tinkering for the sake of tinkering. Results said he had to go. One win in the last nine championship games last season and a poor start this season.

Robins persisted playing players out of position. Last season one of our most potent partnerships was MVE left back and Saka on the wing. I can't think of one game this season where we played this. He chose to put Lati and left back and MVE further forward? Saka in as an attacking midfielder. Saka is probably the most skilled winger in the championship but he almost refuses to start him where he needs to play. Was bizarre.

I think Doug has made some great investments over the last two years and I am pretty sure he will continue to do so. I look forward to our next manager. I live I hope he will get a very strong squad performing as it should.. Onwards and upwards.

Robinshio · Nov 8, 2024

Cheers Doug

Monty · Nov 8, 2024

To be pedantic, Mve is a right back and Sakamato played right wing however other than that fully agree. Feel this season should have started with as near to last year as possible although appreciate sheaf and Wright injured at the time

Hobo · Nov 8, 2024

sneferu said:
Read a lot of stuff on here. Mostly negative towards Doug. My two penneth worth. I think Doug is doing what needs to be done. Also, I think he pulled the plug on Robins at the right time. He was going nowhere.

I have a lot of respect for Robins and everything he has done for the club. However, I feel he had run out of ideas, was tinkering for the sake of tinkering. Results said he had to go. One win in the last nine championship games last season and a poor start this season.

Robins persisted playing players out of position. Last season one of our most potent partnerships was MVE left back and Saka on the wing. I can't think of one game this season where we played this. He chose to put Lati and left back and MVE further forward? Saka in as an attacking midfielder. Saka is probably the most skilled winger in the championship but he almost refuses to start him where he needs to play. Was bizarre.

I think Doug has made some great investments over the last two years and I am pretty sure he will continue to do so. I look forward to our next manager. I live I hope he will get a very strong squad performing as it should.. Onwards and upwards.

The biggest flaw in your argument is at the start of the season Sakamoto was coming back from injury. When he did play he didn't play that well and before he got match fitness got injured again and missed several more weeks.

So saying Robins needlessly split up the MVE Sakamoto partnership is absolute rubbish.

JimmyHillsbeard · Nov 8, 2024

sneferu said:
Last season one of our most potent partnerships was MVE left back and Saka on the wing. I can't think of one game this season where we played this. He chose to put Lati and left back and MVE further forward?

Literally not knowing the difference between left and right hardly boosts your credibility.

SeaSeeEffCee · Nov 8, 2024

Robinshio said:
Cheers Doug

Absolutely ridiculous to suggest that just because someone is complimentary towards Doug it must be the man himself posting.

It could also be Will King.

Diogenes · Nov 8, 2024

Don't agree with all of that but respect the opinion and having the balls to do so.

If we are in the playoffs in May King will be celebrated as a genius, and Robins departure will be forgotten about. Football moves on and fans are fickle.

Football managers are like mob bosses - they rarely have long happy careers. Mob bosses are always fated to end up in prison or murdered, Football managers either sacked or quit.

Darth Robins · Nov 8, 2024

SeaSeeEffCee said:
Absolutely ridiculous to suggest that just because someone is complimentary towards Doug it must be the man himself posting.

It could also be Will King.

Well it's fucking Wan King I know that for sure!

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 8, 2024

Diogenes said:
Don't agree with all of that but respect the opinion and having the balls to do so.

If we are in the playoffs in May King will be celebrated as a genius, and Robins departure will be forgotten about. Football moves on and fans are fickle.

Football managers are like mob bosses - they rarely have long happy careers. Mob bosses are always fated to end up in prison or murdered, Football managers either sacked or quit.

And if we’re relegated the first coverage will probably be Robins saying he told you so. He has to get the appointment right.

bigfatronssba · Nov 8, 2024

This appointment is one of the most important in the clubs history.

For one thing we'll know just how good an owner King is. If he gets it right he'll be seen as someone who can be utterly ruthless for the good of the club.
If he gets it wrong he'll be seen as a clown that knows nothing about football.

That in itself will determine if the club is still on an upward trajectory or if we're now stagnating.

Diogenes · Nov 8, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
And if we’re relegated the first coverage will probably be Robins saying he told you so. He has to get the appointment right.

Exactly - it's a ballsy move and King has rolled the dice.

I agree with pretty much all of the complaints against MR and felt there were doubts about his ability to take us to the next level.

But I don't think we were at the point where we needed to make a change yet- I would have kept him to the end of the season unless we were looking like going down.

Whatever happens from here on in King has no excuse now. The whole setup will be his.

clint van damme · Nov 8, 2024

Diogenes said:
Don't agree with all of that but respect the opinion and having the balls to do so.

If we are in the playoffs in May King will be celebrated as a genius, and Robins departure will be forgotten about. Football moves on and fans are fickle.

Football managers are like mob bosses - they rarely have long happy careers. Mob bosses are always fated to end up in prison or murdered, Football managers either sacked or quit.

I'll never agree with the way they've gone about sacking Robins even if the new man is a success.

Not been handled well at all as far as I'm concerned.

Irish Sky Blue · Nov 8, 2024

Saka and Milan played the first few games of the season together until Saka was injured against Blackburn (I think). Since then we have changed formation and don’t play with wingers if starting with 3 at the back.

Saka has started two of the last three games as a number ten. As he can use both feet, has good close control, can pick a pass and can shoot, it can be argued he is the most natural player to perform as a ten since the departure of O’Hare and Palmer. Not a daft decision by Robins at all as I think we have really missed having an effective ten.

I think that DK has seriously underestimated the strength of feeling this sacking has caused. It has been almost universally, quite rightly, condemned. DK has no wriggle room with the fans now. Either the new guy hits the ground running or both he and Doug I think will feel the wrath of the fans. A bad season now and I think ST sales will plummet next year. Where will all of this leave DK?

The lack or regard and respect for Robins in the way this was done and the timing of it is staggering. To sack someone of his achievements after only 14 games of this season after 7 years of total success is simply madness. (Don’t bring the end of last season into it as anyone with half a brain could see our very thin squad had nothing left in the tank after the semi final).

it is good to see the heartfelt response towards MR from 99% of the fan base. I’ve never seen such a response to a sacking in all of my 60 years following this club. I hope Robins gets to see and hear these comments as I think he needs to know the fondness and the regard in which he is held by the majority of City fans.

Hobo · Nov 8, 2024

bigfatronssba said:
This appointment is one of the most important in the clubs history.

For one thing we'll know just how good an owner King is. If he gets it right he'll be seen as someone who can be utterly ruthless for the good of the club.
If he gets it wrong he'll be seen as a clown that knows nothing about football.

That in itself will determine if the club is still on an upward trajectory or if we're now stagnating.

I think when Jimmy Hill resigned it was probably bigger?

christonabike · Nov 8, 2024

Manager at factory
Manager of a company
Care home manager
It all boils down to performance not how well they did in the past.
Fantastic bloke his time has came to an end.
performances and we have come to a point where we were going backwards.
I didn’t see all the post and love in when he fooked off before?

bigfatronssba · Nov 8, 2024

Hobo said:
I think when Jimmy Hill resigned it was probably bigger?

I did say one of in fairness

torchomatic · Nov 8, 2024

christonabike said:
I didn’t see all the post and love in when he fooked off before?

You can't see the difference between then and his seven year tenure that ended yesterday? Seriously?

Grendel · Nov 8, 2024

Irish Sky Blue said:
Saka and Milan played the first few games of the season together until Saka was injured against Blackburn (I think). Since then we have changed formation and don’t play with wingers if starting with 3 at the back.

Saka has started two of the last three games as a number ten. As he can use both feet, has good close control, can pick a pass and can shoot, it can be argued he is the most natural player to perform as a ten since the departure of O’Hare and Palmer. Not a daft decision by Robins at all as I think we have really missed having an effective ten.

I think that DK has seriously underestimated the strength of feeling this sacking has caused. It has been almost universally, quite rightly, condemned. DK has no wriggle room with the fans now. Either the new guy hits the ground running or both he and Doug I think will feel the wrath of the fans. A bad season now and I think ST sales will plummet next year. Where will all of this leave DK?

The lack or regard and respect for Robins in the way this was done and the timing of it is staggering. To sack someone of his achievements after only 14 games of this season after 7 years of total success is simply madness. (Don’t bring the end of last season into it as anyone with half a brain could see our very thin squad had nothing left in the tank after the semi final).

it is good to see the heartfelt response towards MR from 99% of the fan base. I’ve never seen such a response to a sacking in all of my 60 years following this club. I hope Robins gets to see and hear these comments as I think he needs to know the fondness and the regard in which he is held by the majority of City fans.

I just can’t understand the logic of fans not turning up as the guy who’s managing the club is no longer there. It’s ccfc not mrfc

Potbellypig · Nov 8, 2024

Grendel said:
I just can’t understand the logic of fans not turning up as the guy who’s managing the club is no longer there. It’s ccfc not mrfc

At the minute it feels like DKFC

Otis · Nov 8, 2024

Grendel said:
I just can’t understand the logic of fans not turning up as the guy who’s managing the club is no longer there. It’s ccfc not mrfc

But historically, many fans have always stayed away when not happy with whoever is running the club.

Been loads of cases of anti-chairman protests throughout footballing history.

Does seem that many people are angry with Doug King right now

I obviously, still think they should turn up however. It's still our club.

christonabike · Nov 8, 2024

torchomatic said:
You can't see the difference between then and his seven year tenure that ended yesterday? Seriously?

So now it’s OK to choose between when you’re loyal and not? Just sums it all up from the bed wetters. Get over it we are almost in the bottom 3 not fighting for the top spot? Ffs

Grendel · Nov 8, 2024

Otis said:
But historically, many fans have always stayed away when not happy with whoever is running the club.

Been loads of cases of anti-chairman protests throughout footballing history.

Does seem that many people are angry with Doug King right now

I obviously, still think they should turn up however. It's still our club.

No there haven’t at all.

christonabike · Nov 8, 2024

No Grendel you are right when I sat at the Ricoh and there were 4000 max on a Saturday in the winter with Presley in charge they’d all gone shopping.
No staying away as it was dog shit football.

Grendel · Nov 8, 2024

christonabike said:
No Grendel you are right when I sat at the Ricoh and there were 4000 max on a Saturday in the winter with Presley in charge they’d all gone shopping.
No staying away as it was dog shit football.

That’s not what was said. The reality is fans are fickle other than a hard core and will attend if results are positive. If we win games no one will care.

Diogenes · Nov 8, 2024

clint van damme said:
I'll never agree with the way they've gone about sacking Robins even if the new man is a success.

Not been handled well at all as far as I'm concerned.

How do you sack someone nicely?

Grendel · Nov 8, 2024

Diogenes said:
How do you sack someone nicely?

Send a sympathy card with good luck in the future signed by the players?

Skyblue Bangkok · Nov 8, 2024

Diogenes said:
How do you sack someone nicely?

Pay up the remainder of their contract.

clint van damme · Nov 8, 2024

Diogenes said:
How do you sack someone nicely?

Well it's never going to be nice but there's ways of going about it with a bit of humanity.
It sounds like King has treated Robins badly, through this, and through his bereavement.

I hoped as a club we were a bit better than that.

Otis · Nov 8, 2024

Grendel said:
No there haven’t at all.

There have. Loads of them. Blackpool, Charlton, Southend, Man U, here....that's just off the top of my head.

Grendel · Nov 8, 2024

Otis said:
There have. Loads of them. Blackpool, Charlton, Southend, Man U, here....that's just off the top of my head.

How many of those were purely aimed at a manager and how many reduced attendances? The Man U example is hilarious.

Otis · Nov 8, 2024

Grendel said:
How many of those were purely aimed at a manager and how many reduced attendances? The Man U example is hilarious.

Many were unhappy with the Glaziers. Wasn't that when some fans broke away and started a new club? FC United of Manchester

Glad you find it so funny

SAJ · Nov 8, 2024

Hobo said:
The biggest flaw in your argument is at the start of the season Sakamoto was coming back from injury. When he did play he didn't play that well and before he got match fitness got injured again and missed several more weeks.

So saying Robins needlessly split up the MVE Sakamoto partnership is absolute rubbish.

Sakamoto was that injured that he started at Stoke and played 82 minutes. Think there is an argument to say he was match fit for the first match, not really that much difference from the other 10 that started with him.

Grendel · Nov 8, 2024

Otis said:
Many were unhappy with the Glaziers. Wasn't that when some fans broke away and started a new club? FC United of Manchester

Glad you find it so funny

That was a vanity project the same as Cov United

If Donald Trump bought the club and we were in the champions league in 4 years fans would literally worship him

Irish Sky Blue · Nov 8, 2024

Grendel said:
I just can’t understand the logic of fans not turning up as the guy who’s managing the club is no longer there. It’s ccfc not mrfc

If the team aren’t playing well and do not look like progressing, I can see a big downturn in ST sales.
You could say that the same would have happened under MR if the season continued as it has started. I think people would have had more faith in Robins and his ability to produce another promotion chasing side.
I also think that Robins would have turned this season around as he has in the past if he had of been allowed to get on with the job.
If I was looking at the candidates available to become the next City manager, looking at their CV, their experience and what they’d achieved. Robins would be top of that list.

Otis · Nov 8, 2024

Grendel said:
That was a vanity project the same as Cov United

If Donald Trump bought the club and we were in the champions league in 4 years fans would literally worship him

I agree. The same when Marlon King came here.

But some fans do quit going if they are unhappy with a club.

Always happened. I think Blackpool was particularly nasty at one point wasn't it?

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