You said the team was better in 2023., It wasnt. Glad i could help there. A bench with Waghorn, Maguire, Wilson-Esbrand, need i go on
Doyle and Mcnally as well don't forget. The amount of clean sheets we kept was ridiculousYeah the squad depth is better now, I’m not on about unused subs. Hamer and Gyokeres were unbelievable, those two alone push that team (starting 11 not including staff, unused subs or ball boys) beyond this but that’s simply my opinion.
This is true . The team was better but the squad wasn't. Makes you wonder what Lampard would of done with that team...like got them promoted or somethingThe overall squad is massively better than the play off final team. The difference is this team doesnt have Hamer and Gyokeres
This is true . The team was better but the squad wasn't. Makes you wonder what Lampard would of done with that team...like got them promoted or something
I think you need a reality check on Lampard.There was more to it than poor form I agree, but there was lies chucked in there and an attempt to portray that Robins could only survive with AV and his bibs and cones. Clearly MR was going through a tough time personally with bereavement too.
Lampard has started really well, credit to him. But we haven’t made the play offs or the play off final yet. Robins delivered a PO Final and a Semi Final of the FA Cup when asked for a cup run. I would wait until May to see where we finish before making a conclusion. We have got picked apart by teams with a bit of quality like Leeds and Ipswich and it’s quality teams we’ll need to beat in the big moments. The ‘deck’ we’ve got is still behind the 2023 PO Final team IMO.
Lampard is definitely heading in the right direction but let’s get there first.
But we have Wright and Rudoni surrounded by better players. We don't rely on just 2 players anymore.The overall squad is massively better than the play off final team. The difference is this team doesnt have Hamer and Gyokeres
I think you need a reality check on Lampard.
It doesn't matter what your thoughts are on getting rid of Robins and replacing him with Lampard. The facts are he took over a struggling side that couldn't defend to save their lives. 3 of our best players have been out with quite long injuries. Yet now we're on a brilliant winning run and have gone from just a couple of points out of the bottom 6 to being 1 more win away from probably being in the top 6. This hasn't happened by accident. When Wright is back up to speed we're going to be some side. He will have the players Robins was failing with.
And when Hamer went off in the playoff final we went from looking like we were going to win to looking to hold on for penalties.But that team did have Hamer and Gyokeres, so it is. If your uncle had three balls, he’d be a pinball machine etc.
The goal posts keep getting moved further and further. Lampard will have failed if he hasn't turned us into European Champions within 3 seasons at this rate.6 wins in 7 and there’s still moaning ffs
You missed out winning the Prem after 2 seasons.The goal posts keep getting moved further and further. Lampard will have failed if he hasn't turned us into European Champions within 3 seasons at this rate.
Perhaps he's learnt and improved as a managerHow did that work when he had Mason Mount, Tomori, Ashley Cole, Harry Wilson, Tom Huddlestone and Lawrence in a final?
‘He has secured MR’s legacy’
The c**t threw MR under the bus in an embarrassing fans forum. Mark Robins secured Mark Robin’s legacy.
I can't believe people are still arguing over this.
A lot has changed since Robins left. The announcement of Lampard took ages. It could have gone either way. Things were turning toxic at our club. But it seems Lampard wanted to do things his way or not join us. You can't blame him because if he failed with us his record as manager would have looked poor.
Things changed when King took over. Robins title was changed from manager to coach. It wasn't just down to him on the players coming in or out. The older, experienced players left. We were left without leaders on the pitch. But we bought young players for good money that would have a good resale value.
Fast forward to Lampard taking over. His title is manager. He brought in his own coaches. Looks like he has the say on which players join us. Only two so far but they're 29 and 33. We paid between 3.5m and 4m for a 29 year old. We most probably won't get a penny back from him. But worth every penny. The value of the other players will go up especially if we get promoted.
The Lampard appointment was a very good one. Letting him do it his way even more important. I was worried about his appointment, especially how things could go if he couldn't turn things around. And it wasn't a certainty he could. But with the way our club was when Robins left there was no chance Robins would have been able to turn it around like Lampard has.
Lampard was never going to be able to get us to the level of Leeds this quickly. But now we're not far off being the second or 3rd best side in the Championship. Keep this run going and we could finish 4th. People laughed at the thought of us getting anywhere near the playoffs even as recently as the start of last month.
Yes Robins was brilliant for us especially with all the crap that went on. But Lampard is the man to take us to the next level.
Though I still find it amazing that we have snakes in our support who cant acknowledge the job Robins done and if you defend him you're a Stoke supporter!!
To be fair though any criticism of Lampards approach to games is followed byI think it often gets confused when people say "he had run out of ideas". Somebody can say he did well in previous years but at that moment in time and the start of our season, we were shocking and it didn't look like changing.
"We have been shocking this season"
"He's given me the best years of my life"
"Yes I get that, this season we look lost and nothing is changing"
"Won League One though"
Is how it usually went. People took things way too personally if anybody said anything like he was their dad.
To be fair though any criticism of Lampards approach to games is followed by
"yeah but Robins" or "go watch Stoke"
I think it often gets confused when people say "he had run out of ideas". Somebody can say he did well in previous years but at that moment in time and the start of our season, we were shocking and it didn't look like changing.
"We have been shocking this season"
"He's given me the best years of my life"
"Yes I get that, this season we look lost and nothing is changing"
"Won League One though"
Is how it usually went. People took things way too personally if anybody said anything like he was their dad.
Doug was very Loyal, he gave him loads of time, he he wanted Robins to get us to the Premier league and achieve promotion through all the leagues. Unfortunately it's a results business and MR wasn't getting them. King acted like most chairman/owners would of. Even MR said himself said soI completely dismissed Lampard in the beginning, though I would say the sacking of MR weighed heavily on that. It could have been Klopp or Pep taking over, I wasn't having it.
It still doesn't sit right with the lack of loyalty MR was shown and the way it happened but Lampard has been brilliant since taking over. I still believe Robins could have turned it around but that's a pointless discussion which I have no interest in. I want to look forward and Lampard is doing a brilliant job in giving us something to cheer for.
If he doesn't perform a miracle this season and get us promoted, then next year he will have a chance to show what he can do over a full season. That's when we can properly judge him.
He's not had a easy start and that's putting it lightly. Replacing Robins and the toxicity that followed was not for the weak. What better way to show you're the man for the job? Smash 21 points out of 24! Football fans are fickle, a good run has got some disrespecting a man who took us from the brink of extinction to a kick away from the promised land.
Lampard has my full backing, it's too early to say if it will be the correct decision long term. In the short term, every sign is positive and I think King will be very happy with his decision.
Doug was very Loyal, he gave him loads of time, he he wanted Robins to get us to the Premier league and achieve promotion through all the leagues. Unfortunately it's a results business and MR wasn't getting them. King acted like most chairman/owners would of. Even MR said himself said so
I thought King said it was the results, which is why he sacked himAlthough King did say it wasn't the results.
I think if they hadn't fell out he'd have given him/them longer.
But they did and that was it.
I thought King said it was the results, which is why he sacked him
Doug was very Loyal, he gave him loads of time, he he wanted Robins to get us to the Premier league and achieve promotion through all the leagues. Unfortunately it's a results business and MR wasn't getting them. King acted like most chairman/owners would of. Even MR said himself said so
Although King did say it wasn't the results.
I think if they hadn't fell out he'd have given him/them longer.
But they did and that was it.
I pointed it out at the time how silly it was but the agenda crew was in full force at this point. Funny that they had no idea they were about to crumble and eat humble pie very soon.
Remember when we all lost our heads because we didn't hit the points target
They can fook right off!!!You know the knickers stitchers are going to try Thier look don't you.
get back to work.I pointed it out at the time how silly it was but the agenda crew was in full force at this point. Funny that they had no idea they were about to crumble and eat humble pie very soon.
Never too old to wank off when he's got money mateNo he's too old for me to wank off
Of course MR secured his own legacy at that point in time. I was referring to a future point in time that never ended up happening!!. So if we were miserably relegated and then MR got the sack...that legacy wouldn't look anywhere near as shiny as it does now. That's the bit that Doug, however badly he treated MR, did actually secure for Robins. As it stands - I would still support a statue for what MR did for us...if he had got us relegated...then probably not..as harsh as that may be.‘He has secured MR’s legacy’
The c**t threw MR under the bus in an embarrassing fans forum. Mark Robins secured Mark Robin’s legacy.
This exactly Matt!!I completely dismissed Lampard in the beginning, though I would say the sacking of MR weighed heavily on that. It could have been Klopp or Pep taking over, I wasn't having it.
It still doesn't sit right with the lack of loyalty MR was shown and the way it happened but Lampard has been brilliant since taking over. I still believe Robins could have turned it around but that's a pointless discussion which I have no interest in. I want to look forward and Lampard is doing a brilliant job in giving us something to cheer for.
If he doesn't perform a miracle this season and get us promoted, then next year he will have a chance to show what he can do over a full season. That's when we can properly judge him.
He's not had a easy start and that's putting it lightly. Replacing Robins and the toxicity that followed was not for the weak. What better way to show you're the man for the job? Smash 21 points out of 24! Football fans are fickle, a good run has got some disrespecting a man who took us from the brink of extinction to a kick away from the promised land.
Lampard has my full backing, it's too early to say if it will be the correct decision long term. In the short term, every sign is positive and I think King will be very happy with his decision.
I pointed it out at the time how silly it was but the agenda crew was in full force at this point. Funny that they had no idea they were about to crumble and eat humble pie very soon.
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