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DOUG ….don’t be so greedy (1 Viewer)

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skyblue_55

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  • Aug 27, 2024
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Still into the school holidays & I can’t see why Doug & the club…….possibly along with the Oxford ok , couldn’t do a kids for a quid evening.
No pay on the day/gate …… why ….& what are the club trying to do ?
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Aug 27, 2024
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skyblue_55 said:
Still into the school holidays & I can’t see why Doug & the club…….possibly along with the Oxford ok , couldn’t do a kids for a quid evening.
No pay on the day/gate …… why ….& what are the club trying to do ?
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Don't bother clubs have to agree on a price ?
 

ccfctommy

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  • Aug 27, 2024
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They will lose money
 
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SkyBlueScottie

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  • Aug 27, 2024
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skyblue_55 said:
Still into the school holidays & I can’t see why Doug & the club…….possibly along with the Oxford ok , couldn’t do a kids for a quid evening.
No pay on the day/gate …… why ….& what are the club trying to do ?
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Trying to balance the books?
 

pusbccfc

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  • Aug 27, 2024
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It could have been £5 tonight and the crowd would have been the same.

Similar crowds across the matches tonight. Even Leicester only got 13,000 and Tranmere took a few thousand. Similar numbers at Palace too.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 27, 2024
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The pay on the gate thing is a bit strange
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 27, 2024
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pusbccfc said:
It could have been £5 tonight and the crowd would have been the same.

Similar crowds across the matches tonight. Even Leicester only got 13,000 and Tranmere took a few thousand. Similar numbers at Palace too.
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From an attendance POV, drawing Oxford at home was possibly the worst possible draw. Complete lack of interest in the fixture because we’d just played. Oxford away I reckon would’ve been a good crowd, although I was shocked at how bad Oxford’s away following was tonight.
Personally, I’d scrap the EFL cup altogether.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Aug 27, 2024
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Mucca Mad Boys said:
From an attendance POV, drawing Oxford at home was possibly the worst possible draw. Complete lack of interest in the fixture because we’d just played. Oxford away I reckon would’ve been a good crowd, although I was shocked at how bad Oxford’s away following was tonight.
Personally, I’d scrap the EFL cup altogether.
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Maybe people can't afford two games in 5 days . So would rather go to the Norwich game. Can't say I have much interest in the EFL cup and agree it should be scrapped.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Aug 27, 2024
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Mucca Mad Boys said:
From an attendance POV, drawing Oxford at home was possibly the worst possible draw. Complete lack of interest in the fixture because we’d just played. Oxford away I reckon would’ve been a good crowd, although I was shocked at how bad Oxford’s away following was tonight.
Personally, I’d scrap the EFL cup altogether.
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Yep. The crowds are so low for it. Seeing Premier League clubs like Leicester and Palace who sell out every single game get 13,000 is pretty stark.

They've grown a little in the FA Cup in recent years. There's definitely been a little resurgence in that competition. Let's not forget we got 18,000 against Oxford in our first FA Cup game last season.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 27, 2024
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What?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 27, 2024
  • #11
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Maybe people can't afford two games in 5 days . So would rather go to the Norwich game. Can't say I have much interest in the EFL cup and agree it should be scrapped.
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Unless it’s a big draw, I don’t think anyone cares about that competition until the latter stages.

The games being midweek and so early in the season doesn’t help because

If they kept it, they should trim it down to Championship and Premiership clubs because the L1 & L2 have the JPT (whatever it’s called now).

I’ll be honest, I went through the motions watching the game tonight. I showed up but wasn’t particularly engaged in the game.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 28, 2024
  • #12
I'm pretty sure they're all important to stadium owner's whoever they are for the discretionary spend before and during the game!
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Aug 28, 2024
  • #13
Yer Doug stop being greedy let us all in for free.
Oh and don't forget to buy all those players we all want.
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Aug 28, 2024
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We got a similar number to most other clubs, which suggests its priced correctly

 
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alexccfc99

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  • Aug 28, 2024
  • #15
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Unless it’s a big draw, I don’t think anyone cares about that competition until the latter stages.

The games being midweek and so early in the season doesn’t help because

If they kept it, they should trim it down to Championship and Premiership clubs because the L1 & L2 have the JPT (whatever it’s called now).

I’ll be honest, I went through the motions watching the game tonight. I showed up but wasn’t particularly engaged in the game.
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Unless by chance there is a local derby drawn, pretty much every match in the early rounds of this competition until the big boys enter do have a real pre-season friendly feel to them - low crowds, a lot of changes to teams etc.
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Aug 28, 2024
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Mucca Mad Boys said:
From an attendance POV, drawing Oxford at home was possibly the worst possible draw. Complete lack of interest in the fixture because we’d just played. Oxford away I reckon would’ve been a good crowd, although I was shocked at how bad Oxford’s away following was tonight.
Personally, I’d scrap the EFL cup altogether.
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It certainly needs a bit of a freshen up

Either make it open to just the clubs who have do not European football, so your middle of the road Premier League sides have more of an incentive to take it seriously as opposed to Man City or Liverpool's second string (who would still beat most Prem sides) winning it 9 times out of 10

Or, a bit of a curveball idea - propose to combine it with the Scottish and Welsh versions of the competition and make it a whole British cup, the French do a similar thing with the with the Coupe De France where clubs from the French colonies and dependencies are invited, a part time side from Martinique in the Caribbean ended up getting quite far and drawing Lille away last season - Lille 12-0 Golden Lion: Martinique side make 8,000-mile round trip in French Cup
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 28, 2024
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alexccfc99 said:
It certainly needs a bit of a freshen up

Either make it open to just the clubs who have do not European football, so your middle of the road Premier League sides have more of an incentive to take it seriously as opposed to Man City or Liverpool's second string (who would still beat most Prem sides) winning it 9 times out of 10

Or, a bit of a curveball idea - propose to combine it with the Scottish and Welsh versions of the competition and make it a whole British cup, the French do a similar thing with the with the Coupe De France where clubs from the French colonies and dependencies are invited, a part time side from Martinique in the Caribbean ended up getting quite far and drawing Lille away last season - Lille 12-0 Golden Lion: Martinique side make 8,000-mile round trip in French Cup
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Brilliant idea
 

fatso

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  • Aug 28, 2024
  • #18
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Personally, I’d scrap the EFL cup altogether.
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Wait till we progress to the final rounds and draw one of the big boys, or even get to Wembley again, the clamouring for tickets would be embarrassing,
The club should say anyone who went to the Oxford and Bristol matches should get first priority.
 
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Speedies_Chips

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  • Aug 28, 2024
  • #19
skyblue_55 said:
Still into the school holidays & I can’t see why Doug & the club…….possibly along with the Oxford ok , couldn’t do a kids for a quid evening.
No pay on the day/gate …… why ….& what are the club trying to do ?
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I’m guessing that the no pay on the gate thing is because these days they want people to buy a ticket so they know exactly who has been to each game. Then when we get to the final there is no one claiming they went to every round but haven’t got any points for it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 28, 2024
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fatso said:
Wait till we progress to the final rounds and draw one of the big boys, or even get to Wembley again, the clamouring for tickets would be embarrassing,
The club should say anyone who went to the Oxford and Bristol matches should get first priority.
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We’d only get to Wembley if we made the final.
 
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Kilclines curly mullet

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  • Aug 28, 2024
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We have reduced prices in the past and it made minimal impact on attendances. As somebody said above the club starts to lose money what with the fees for actually holding the game
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 28, 2024
  • #22
alexccfc99 said:
It certainly needs a bit of a freshen up

Either make it open to just the clubs who have do not European football, so your middle of the road Premier League sides have more of an incentive to take it seriously as opposed to Man City or Liverpool's second string (who would still beat most Prem sides) winning it 9 times out of 10

Or, a bit of a curveball idea - propose to combine it with the Scottish and Welsh versions of the competition and make it a whole British cup, the French do a similar thing with the with the Coupe De France where clubs from the French colonies and dependencies are invited, a part time side from Martinique in the Caribbean ended up getting quite far and drawing Lille away last season - Lille 12-0 Golden Lion: Martinique side make 8,000-mile round trip in French Cup
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Cant wait for the away trip to Falklands FC.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 28, 2024
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alexccfc99 said:
Unless by chance there is a local derby drawn, pretty much every match in the early rounds of this competition until the big boys enter do have a real pre-season friendly feel to them - low crowds, a lot of changes to teams etc.
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Look at the gate for Barnsley v Sheff Utd!
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 28, 2024
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shmmeee said:
Cant wait for the away trip to Falklands FC.
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Nah, playing the Cayman Islands away at the PO Box LLP stadium is the one
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Aug 28, 2024
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fernandopartridge said:
Look at the gate for Barnsley v Sheff Utd!
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And Blackburn v Blackpool
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Aug 28, 2024
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fernandopartridge said:
Look at the gate for Barnsley v Sheff Utd!
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Barnsley v Sheff U is not that big of a deal, granted it's a 'derby' but they both hate Wednesday way more

Sheff U did have that whole end behind the goal yesterday tbf, there was more of them in the ground than there was Barnsley
 

alexccfc99

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  • Aug 28, 2024
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pusbccfc said:
And Blackburn v Blackpool
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Other than them both being in Lancs does Blackpool and Blackburn really constitute a derby? Again both have sides they hate way more
 
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fatso

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  • Aug 28, 2024
  • #28
Personally I think the ticket pricing was ok considering the millions of pounds of talent on display, and the investment in the clubs training facilities, the increased number of coaching staff, and the increase in the wage bill etc.

We can't moan about the ticket price while demanding another signing in the same week!
 
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Ashdown

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  • Aug 28, 2024
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We should care about all the cups, last season proved that. The lower crowd was always going to happen due to the date, just playing them but more importantly the ridiculous idea of funnelling everyone through a ticket office. It must have put several thousand off going through that nonsense.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 28, 2024
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Skyblue Bangkok said:
Maybe people can't afford two games in 5 days . So would rather go to the Norwich game. Can't say I have much interest in the EFL cup and agree it should be scrapped.
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I understand that there's an economic argument, but if this fixture was Leicester or Birmingham in the cup, people would find the £30 for a ticket if it was home or away.

There's next to zero interest in the EFL Cup and as well as being an inconvenience being midweek, as it's early in the season there were times last night and Bristol in the cup it felt like an extended pre-season. The cherry on the top is deja vu of playing 2 consecutive games against the same opponents.
 

Hobo

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  • Aug 28, 2024
  • #31
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Maybe people can't afford two games in 5 days . So would rather go to the Norwich game. Can't say I have much interest in the EFL cup and agree it should be scrapped.
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End of the month too, most people waiting to get paid.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Aug 28, 2024
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Kilclines curly mullet said:
We have reduced prices in the past and it made minimal impact on attendances. As somebody said above the club starts to lose money what with the fees for actually holding the game
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Mucca Mad Boys said:
I understand that there's an economic argument, but if this fixture was Leicester or Birmingham in the cup, people would find the £30 for a ticket if it was home or away.

There's next to zero interest in the EFL Cup and as well as being an inconvenience being midweek, as it's early in the season there were times last night and Bristol in the cup it felt like an extended pre-season. The cherry on the top is deja vu of playing 2 consecutive games against the same opponents.
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Even if it was Birmingham or Leicester I wouldn't pay £30 quid for a league cup game. Especially when we have another home game on Saturday.
 

clint van damme

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  • Aug 28, 2024
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Get not reducing prices but no POTG just doesn't make sense.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 28, 2024
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clint van damme said:
Get not reducing prices but no POTG just doesn't make sense.
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They'll use all sorts of reasons to justify!
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 28, 2024
  • #35
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Even if it was Birmingham or Leicester I wouldn't pay £30 quid for a league cup game. Especially when we have another home game on Saturday.
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In fairness, it’s quite a flight from Bangkok for you!

Don’t get me wrong, I’m trying to build my points so these games become important. What I’m trying to is that if people really want to go, the cost is only a secondary concern.

Separate point now: These cup games are the most efficient ways to build the points, for example, Stoke and Bristol cost £64.40 for two adults (including admin + postage) for 20 loyalty points. Bristol and Oxford meanwhile, cost under half that amount for 50 loyalty points.
 
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