Any link?
4pmYou had your meeting yet?
The 'R' rate In rising in Coventry and worse in Birmingham with threats of local lock down on the cards - Cannot see our fans been allowed to attend any matches before Xmas or into January/Febuary particulary as the normal flu season has not even arrived yet
At 4.15pm make an excuse to use the facilities
Chris Whitty said right at the start that we will eventually have to live with this virus
Could be dangerous allowing crowds at that level, esp early on because could see quite a lot of people turning up to watch a game that are missing it. Those clubs as well as not having the capacity can't afford the security and policing if loads turn up.
Would be a nice cash boost for those smaller clubs though.
What were the UK deaths this week so far? I think I read 3 Monday, 12 yesterday? The numbers seem very small now and are largely elderly people with known pre-existing health conditions. And I don't mean that in a way that is dismissive of their deaths, rather that there is a lot of data out there now and if it's is a specific age group and the risk of death to that age group is mainly associated with pre-existing conditions, then surely steps can be introduced that look to specifically protect that risk group.Well consider all of the mass outdoor gatherings of the summer that have not translated into surges in cases while people have been allowed to pack indoors in restaurants, public transport and soon schools. And really if they’re letting everyone cram into school they’re admitting that preventing infection is no longer a strategy.
It’s going to be great fun on social media when / if there is a vaccine. I’ve already seen things suggesting governments are going to ‘tag’ the population with a chemical signature for monitoring purposes.What were the UK deaths this week so far? I think I read 3 Monday, 12 yesterday? The numbers seem very small now and are largely elderly people with known pre-existing health conditions. And I don't mean that in a way that is dismissive of their deaths, rather that there is a lot of data out there now and if it's is a specific age group and the risk of death to that age group is mainly associated with pre-existing conditions, then surely steps can be introduced that look to specifically protect that risk group.
Media attention seems to have shifted away from deaths though, to outbreaks and surges, in an attempt to keep the wave of panic over this rolling. I suppose they will continue to do so too until a vaccine is introduced given how much has been invested in it now. Gotta make that ROI. The next stage will be 'invested' politicians wanting the vaccine to be mandatory for all.
Yeah I read something about that. Suggesting it could mutate into something akin to the common cold and that’ll be it from then on. Think the logic is viruses don’t want to kill the host as it limits their spread, so they evolve to become less deadly but more infectious.They are suggesting it has mutated into a more infectious but less deadly virus
It's not just about deaths though. I know someone in their early 30s who was perfectly healthy and is still suffering the after effects 4 months after having it.What were the UK deaths this week so far? I think I read 3 Monday, 12 yesterday? The numbers seem very small now and are largely elderly people with known pre-existing health conditions. And I don't mean that in a way that is dismissive of their deaths, rather that there is a lot of data out there now and if it's is a specific age group and the risk of death to that age group is mainly associated with pre-existing conditions, then surely steps can be introduced that look to specifically protect that risk group.
Media attention seems to have shifted away from deaths though, to outbreaks and surges, in an attempt to keep the wave of panic over this rolling. I suppose they will continue to do so too until a vaccine is introduced given how much has been invested in it now. Gotta make that ROI. The next stage will be 'invested' politicians wanting the vaccine to be mandatory for all.
Yes, I think the logic is that viruses mingle together to some extent within their host in the same way as our DNA does when we reproduce. This creates different strains and by (reverse?) natural selection the stronger ones incapacitate their hosts quicker than the weaker ones. The weaker strains become more successful because the host carries on with their lives, and continues to spread the virus much wider than the stronger ones who incapacitate and in many cases, kill their host.Yeah I read something about that. Suggesting it could mutate into something akin to the common cold and that’ll be it from then on. Think the logic is viruses don’t want to kill the host as it limits their spread, so they evolve to become less deadly but more infectious.
Well put! Which would end up being a relatively easy way out of it all. The article I was reading was also saying there was a hypothesis that the existing coronaviruses (the ones that cause the common cold) may have evolved in a similar way. Was a ‘proper’ study in which they traced the evolution of one of the existing viruses and it appeared to have mutated significantly around the time (late 1800’s I think) that there was a mystery respiratory illness that killed quite a few people. I may not have explained that totally accurately, but that was the general idea.Yes, I think the logic is that viruses mingle together to some extent within their host in the same way as our DNA does when we reproduce. This creates different strains and by (reverse?) natural selection the stronger ones incapacitate their hosts quicker than the weaker ones. The weaker strains become more successful because the host carries on with their lives, and continues to spread the virus much wider than the stronger ones who incapacitate and in many cases, kill their host.
Natural selection
I guess there is still a lot of unknown/guess workI was saying this weeks ago about the weaker virus mutation and got shot down for it
Or we have to open schools and this will increase the infection rate so we need to be careful with other actionsWell consider all of the mass outdoor gatherings of the summer that have not translated into surges in cases while people have been allowed to pack indoors in restaurants, public transport and soon schools. And really if they’re letting everyone cram into school they’re admitting that preventing infection is no longer a strategy.
Still plenty of time for me to get shot down for it! Only posting what I’ve read, not saying it will happen, is happening or frankly have any opinion on it at all other than hoping it happens. It would need to get mild enough to not cause long-term consequences as well before we could go back to normality I guess. And it would take a while before any milder strain became dominant globally and for that to be reflected in the data, so it’s not going to be the solution to this season’s games, unfortunately.I was saying this weeks ago about the weaker virus mutation and got shot down for it
Or we have to open schools and this will increase the infection rate so we need to be careful with other actions
Well put! Which would end up being a relatively easy way out of it all. The article I was reading was also saying there was a hypothesis that the existing coronaviruses (the ones that cause the common cold) may have evolved in a similar way. Was a ‘proper’ study in which they traced the evolution of one of the existing viruses and it appeared to have mutated significantly around the time (late 1800’s I think) that there was a mystery respiratory illness that killed quite a few people. I may not have explained that totally accurately, but that was the general idea.
If that does happen then ultimately I guess we just end up with another way of catching a cold. No big deal. Not sure it’s gonna happen in time for the first round of the Carabao cup mind!
I think your average virus is probably more intelligent, spends longer doing its job, kills fewer people and reproduces less than Johnson.Clever little fuckers these Coronavirus, I blame Boris Johnson.
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