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Doncaster sign Freddy Piquionne (1 Viewer)

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@richh87

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  • Mar 5, 2012
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http://www.coventry.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=275105

Nice to see owners taking things seriously when in relegation trouble...
 

skybluegod

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #2
do you mean our owners or theres?
 

skybluelee

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #3
skybluegod said:
do you mean our owners or theres?
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:facepalm:
 

@richh87

Member
  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #4
skybluegod said:
do you mean our owners or theres?
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I mean that their owners want to stay up and ours couldn't give a toss.
 

skybluegod

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #5
skybluelee said:
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he might be being sarcastic it's kinda hard to tell.
 

Gray

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #6
t.r.a.n.s.f.e.r.e.m.b.a.r.go.
 

Skybluedar

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #7
No it is quite clear what he means. Piquionne is a top class striker. They now have him and Diouf up top. They are certainly giving themselves a chance. I am furious at Fisher and this rubbish about "selling the club is the last thing on their minds", "we want to increase the budget"

THEY HAVE NOT INVESTED NOW WHEN WE ARE FACING RELEGATION IN THE FACE! They are hardly increasing next years, they don't even have any budget for next years. There is no doubt that we could have done business with someone. He not "good enough" or "not available" when we enquired? Yeah sure...
 

@richh87

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #8
Gray said:
t.r.a.n.s.f.e.r.e.m.b.a.r.go.
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Yes, t.r.a.n.s.f.e.r.e.m.b.a.r.go. - because they can't make up their mind whether to fund us after May. C*nts.

They'd already promised funding til May at the start of the season - and still sold Juke and didn't give a good go of strengthening the squad.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #9
Glad you approve of a class act like willie Mackay signing players. I assume you know he doesn't cost them a penny don't you?
 

@richh87

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #10
kduffy said:
Glad you approve of a class act like willie Mackay signing players. I assume you know he doesn't cost them a penny don't you?
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I don't think either of us (you or I) know what you're on about.

He has been employed by Donny to bring in players on a certain budget. He's costing money and the players coming in are costing money - but nothing like their full wage at their parent clubs.

You know the few sad posters on here that stick up for SISU had me a bit worried about the mental health of City fans.

Thank god the poll on Cov Mad set me straight with 34% saying they wouldn't be back next season if SISU were here and 2% saying the same of Andy Thorn. Common sense at last.
 
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Mary_Mungo_Midge

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #11
kduffy said:
Glad you approve of a class act like willie Mackay signing players. I assume you know he doesn't cost them a penny don't you?
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It affords the owners credit for lateral thinking. Something ours are wholly incapable of. Hence their overseeing ever dwindling gates whilst offering heavy-handed censure to any signs of unrest. Hence weekly gates 4K down on where they started, giving rise to ever-more critical losses that they then complain they can't sustain. Then use this self-same financial fragility as reason they can't file accounts due to uncertainty moving forward that stops us signing players
 

sw88

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #12
Mackay must be making a packet with these signings considering he's their agent. That'll help Donny out financially won't it :facepalm:
 

mark82

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #13
sw88 said:
Mackay must be making a packet with these signings considering he's their agent. That'll help Donny out financially won't it :facepalm:
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Probably moreso than being relegated. They are short term contracts.
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #14
mark82 said:
Probably moreso than being relegated. They are short term contracts.
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They are short-term contracts for McKay's clients. Doncaster gets a better quality of player for peanuts, the player gets exposure and the agent gets a more visible and hopefully more valuable player. Win, win, win.

Oh, except for us.....
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 5, 2012
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@richh87 said:
I don't think either of us (you or I) know what you're on about.

He has been employed by Donny to bring in players on a certain budget. He's costing money and the players coming in are costing money - but nothing like their full wage at their parent clubs.
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Actually I know exactly what I am on about;

"Donny will pay a maximum of £2,000 a week towards a player’s existing salary, relying on the parent club to pay the difference in their contract during their loan"

It get's better;

As well as benefiting from the player’s performances, Rovers will receive a cut of the transfer fee.

So it actually makes the club money, the manager has no say in the transfers and ultimately the disharmony this is causing will send them down. The club have been widely ridiculed for it but you think this is the way forward.

As for MacKay football principles are clearly at the foremost of his mind;

‘I’m doing this to prove it can be done and I’ve been honest enough to admit I’m only here for the money.

How reassuring for all Donny fans. Clearly survival is at the top of Mackay's mind. Free Willie he isn't.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 5, 2012
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Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
They are short-term contracts for McKay's clients. Doncaster gets a better quality of player for peanuts, the player gets exposure and the agent gets a more visible and hopefully more valuable player. Win, win, win.

Oh, except for us.....
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And all other 90 league clubs. I think sanity above greed and actually consider you are allegedly one for statistics how has this project been doing since its launch in October?
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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  • Mar 5, 2012
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kduffy said:
And all other 90 league clubs. I think sanity above greed and actually consider you are allegedly one for statistics how has this project been doing since its launch in October?
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It's given Doncaster options we don't have. They unquestionably have a better quality of player at their disposal in certain areas than we have.

After that, it's up to Saunders. Maybe he's simply not as good a manager as Thorn? ;-)

Take the sprinkling of quality McKay has delivered to Saunders. Put them in our team and Thorn would be able to perform as he did last term with Westwood, King, Gunnar and Turner and we'd be safe by now and you'd have nothing to get all unnecessary about...
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 5, 2012
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Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
It's given Doncaster options we don't have. They unquestionably have a better quality of player at their disposal in certain areas than we have.

After that, it's up to Saunders. Maybe he's simply not as good a manager as Thorn? ;-)

Take the sprinkling of quality McKay has delivered to Saunders. Put them in our team and Thorn would be able to perform as he did last term with Westwood, King, Gunnar and Turner and we'd be safe by now and you'd have nothing to get all unnecessary about...
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That is just a wind up post and I am not responding other than to say not one soccer pundit or journalist has one good thing to say about it. I know a couple of fans up there and they honestly hate it and the general view is it is why O'Driscoll walked out.
 

cornoccfc

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #19
I almost cheered when I saw the thread, thought that was another circa 6-10k coming off the wage bill

(my page just showed 'Doncaster sign Freddy...')
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #20
kduffy said:
That is just a wind up post and I am not responding other than to say not one soccer pundit or journalist has one good thing to say about it. I know a couple of fans up there and they honestly hate it and the general view is it is why O'Driscoll walked out.
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Strange that, what with you reverting to the wisdom of pundits and hacks; as when they've previously written about the unsustainability of selling senior players and replacing them with so many inexperienced kids; and they think Thorn's doing a good job you've previously been ignoring them
 

hackneyfox

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #21
Of course he wants to make money out of it, no surprises there.

If it keeps Doncaster up they'll be happy.

As for Piguionne, West Hams were rejoicing when this first surfaced about 2 months ago.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #22
I'm sure somewhere along the lines someone described piqueonne as 'top class'. Mental.
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #23
Selling Billy Sharpe to Southampton didn't exactly show a great desire by the Doncaster owners to stay up did it?
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #24
lordsummerisle said:
Selling Billy Sharpe to Southampton didn't exactly show a great desire by the Doncaster owners to stay up did it?
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And Jutkiewitz to Boro?
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Mar 5, 2012
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Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
And Jutkiewitz to Boro?
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Think our results have actually improved strangely enough!
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #26
lordsummerisle said:
Think our results have actually improved strangely enough!
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Yes I agree, they have. In fact if you look at the table at he time he left and now, you wouldn't have given us a chance of being here we currently are. I don't however, think our upturn in fortunes was the deign of our owners when they pocketed the filthy northern lucre though
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Mar 5, 2012
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Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
Yes I agree, they have. In fact if you look at the table at he time he left and now, you wouldn't have given us a chance of being here we currently are. I don't however, think our upturn in fortunes was the deign of our owners when they pocketed the filthy northern lucre though
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But selling your top scorer and getting in a loan striker is a sign of ambition for Doncaster?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #28
Or losing O'Driscoll to Nottingham Forest who are now reaping some benefit of an experienced tactician on their management staff.
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #29
lordsummerisle said:
But selling your top scorer and getting in a loan striker is a sign of ambition for Doncaster?
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Marginally more ambition than selling your leading scorer and still not being able to secure enough medium term funding to allow you to file accounts and consider the spectre of loan payers, yes
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 5, 2012
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Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
They are short-term contracts for McKay's clients. Doncaster gets a better quality of player for peanuts, the player gets exposure and the agent gets a more visible and hopefully more valuable player. Win, win, win.

Oh, except for us.....
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He is 33 by the way and averages 1 goal in 8 games on average.
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #31
kduffy said:
He is 33 by the way and averages 1 goal in 8 games on average.
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Which is younger than Platt and with a strike rate that's better than Platt's at City. Did you mean to make a point? Do you need a hand?
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Mar 5, 2012
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Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
Marginally more ambition than selling your leading scorer and still not being able to secure enough medium term funding to allow you to file accounts and consider the spectre of loan payers, yes
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Marginally successful too.
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #33
kduffy said:
He is 33 by the way and averages 1 goal in 8 games on average.
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Juke looks a lot younger than that.

He must moisturise.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 5, 2012
  • #34
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
Which is younger than Platt and with a strike rate that's better than Platt's at City. Did you mean to make a point? Do you need a hand?
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Just a bit puzzled by the comment better quality player. Better than what? Billy sharpe? No. Actually I think he is a long in the tooth journeyman. West ham are glad to see the back of him and he is hardly likely to pull up trees for Doncaster whose manager probably did not want him. You however think this is progress. Unbelievable.
 

@richh87

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  • Mar 6, 2012
  • #35
kduffy said:
Just a bit puzzled by the comment better quality player. Better than what? Billy sharpe? No. Actually I think he is a long in the tooth journeyman. West ham are glad to see the back of him and he is hardly likely to pull up trees for Doncaster whose manager probably did not want him. You however think this is progress. Unbelievable.
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'Journeyman' with top flight clubs is literally a different league to Plattini unfortunately.
 
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