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Does anyone else feel that we’ve been sold short ? (2 Viewers)

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rob9872

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  • Tuesday at 12:27 PM
  • #71
quinn1971 said:
We coped with injuries last season, we’ll manage again, and we probably made our best recent signing in January, if we need some help then we’ll get it
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Depends when they occur and who to. If it's the next game and key players, then we have 20 games to January. The season could be done by then and have to wait for the summer. I'd also be concerned if he foresaw what's coming that we lose Lampard to a Premiership opening.
 
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Deity

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  • Tuesday at 12:27 PM
  • #72
If we are there or there about come Dec we can be sure that King won’t authorise any major players being sold in Jan and we have the next 4 months to line up the additional options Frank wants in his squad ….
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Tuesday at 12:30 PM
  • #73
We registered 23 senior players after the January window and we added Paterson later to make 24.

Where are we now? From that list we've lost Binks, Sheaf, Burroughs, Collins and Tyler.

We've gained Rushworth, KKH, Woolfenden, Brau so it looks like 22 rather than 23. I don't think any of the U-21 will have to be senior registrations unless I'm wrong so that doesn't change anything

I don't think the arguments that the squad is much weaker really hold water with Perry, Andrews and Bell all available to fill the bench. I'm guessing that they'll be looking to add one or two in January. We just missed out on a winger at the deadline apparently so we'd intended to run with 23 it seems.

Coventry City name 23-man squad with room for free agent Jamie Paterson

Coventry City have submitted their squad to the EFL for the remaining Championship matches
www.coventrytelegraph.net
 
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Deity

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  • Tuesday at 12:30 PM
  • #74
rob9872 said:
Depends when they occur and who to. If it's the next game and key players, then we have 20 games to January. The season could be done by then and have to wait for the summer. I'd also be concerned if he foresaw what's coming that we lose Lampard to a Premiership opening.
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We were pretty close to the bottom in Mid Dec and we still made the play offs …. You don’t have to be on fire all season in this league …. If we are within 6 points of play offs come January then it’s still all to play for
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Tuesday at 12:31 PM
  • #75
Speedie's Head said:
We registered 23 senior players after the January window and we added Paterson later to make 24.

Where are we now? From that list we've lost Binks, Sheaf, Burroughs, Collins and Tyler.

We've gained Rushworth, KKH, Woolfenden, Brau so it looks like 22 rather than 23. I don't think any of the U-21 will have to be senior registrations unless I'm wrong so that doesn't change anything

I don't think the arguments that the squad is much weaker really hold water with Perry, Andrews and Bell all available to fill the bench. I'm guessing that they'll be looking to add one or two in January. We just missed out on a winger at the deadline apparently so we'd intended to run with 23 it seems.

Coventry City name 23-man squad with room for free agent Jamie Paterson

Coventry City have submitted their squad to the EFL for the remaining Championship matches
www.coventrytelegraph.net
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Perry Andrews and Bell are all unproven.

If we have 2 keepers on the bench too it is a bit ridiculous.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Tuesday at 12:32 PM
  • #76
rob9872 said:
Depends when they occur and who to. If it's the next game and key players, then we have 20 games to January. The season could be done by then and have to wait for the summer. I'd also be concerned if he foresaw what's coming that we lose Lampard to a Premiership opening.
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We missed wright and EMC for alot of last season , not 100% but think we went on our best run during that time, Simms up front Allen and Eccles Came in and did really well, good thing about the squad is it’s flexible, MVE and Hayden can play further up, BTA can play both wings, wright can play on the left, Brau can push up, a couple of more would of been handy but we’ve still got plenty there,
 
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rob9872

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  • Tuesday at 12:32 PM
  • #77
Speedie's Head said:
We registered 23 senior players after the January window and we added Paterson later to make 24.

Where are we now? From that list we've lost Binks, Sheaf, Burroughs, Collins and Tyler.

We've gained Rushworth, KKH, Woolfenden, Brau so it looks like 22 rather than 23. I don't think any of the U-21 will have to be senior registrations unless I'm wrong so that doesn't change anything

I don't think the arguments that the squad is much weaker really hold water with Perry, Andrews and Bell all available to fill the bench. I'm guessing that they'll be looking to add one or two in January. We just missed out on a winger at the deadline apparently so we'd intended to run with 23 it seems.

Coventry City name 23-man squad with room for free agent Jamie Paterson

Coventry City have submitted their squad to the EFL for the remaining Championship matches
www.coventrytelegraph.net
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Tavares
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Tuesday at 12:34 PM
  • #78
Ccfcisparks said:
Perry Andrews and Bell are all unproven.

If we have 2 keepers on the bench too it is a bit ridiculous.
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Of course but we will have injuries, we recalled Bell from his loan last season remember just to cover one weekend!
 

rob9872

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  • Tuesday at 12:34 PM
  • #79
quinn1971 said:
We missed wright and EMC for slit of last season , not 100% but think we went on our best run during that time, Simms up front Allen Came in and did really well, good thing about the squad is it’s flexible, MVE and Hayden can play further up, BTA can play both wings, wright can play on the left, Brau can push up, a couple of more would of been handy but we’ve still got plenty there,
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I'm not suggesting it's all doom and gloom, but Rudi was outstanding during the period you mention and he's the one player in this side and that was the one I'd suggested was out. I believe he's irreplicable by any other player, formation or system and the difference between top 6 and mid-table.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Tuesday at 12:35 PM
  • #80
rob9872 said:
Tavares
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He went on loan I think
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Tuesday at 12:40 PM
  • #81
rob9872 said:
Lots suggesting Eccles might be the answer. I'm not his biggest fan, but we'll likely need him, however the rhetoric constantly aimed at Sheaf on here was that he's injury prone. Eccles 2 years younger has missed a chunk of every season in the last 3 through injury and isn't yet fit this season:

SeasonInjury Period
2021–22July 21 to Nov 21
Feb 22 to Apr 22
2022–23Dec 22 to Jan 23
2024–25Oct-24
March 25 to April 25
May 25 to ongoing
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In the last three seasons he has been a first team player, he has played 34, 44, and 39 games respectively. He missed 5 or 6 games through injury last season, and none the one before.

I know you are struggling to cope with Sheaf leaving, but this is just silly. Whilst there are a few injuries, his turn out rate is pretty good.

I think he will play a decent role for us this season.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Tuesday at 12:43 PM
  • #82
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
In the last three seasons he has been a first team player, he has played 34, 44, and 39 games respectively. He missed 5 or 6 games through injury last season, and none the one before.

I know you are struggling to cope with Sheaf leaving, but this is just silly. Whilst there are a few injuries, his turn out rate is pretty good.

I think he will play a decent role for us this season.
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Eccles is fine as back up, so is Allen, don’t get what the panic is, we’ve got plenty of cover everywhere , your not going to have quality back up in every position no team does, we’ve got plenty to have another good season
 
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rob9872

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  • Tuesday at 12:48 PM
  • #83
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
In the last three seasons he has been a first team player, he has played 34, 44, and 39 games respectively. He missed 5 or 6 games through injury last season, and none the one before.

I know you are struggling to cope with Sheaf leaving, but this is just silly. Whilst there are a few injuries, his turn out rate is pretty good.

I think he will play a decent role for us this season.
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This has nothing to do with Sheaf, I know you're obsessed with him, but he's gone time to move on and not by saying how a very average squad player is more than he is. I'll tell you what I won't mention him, see if you can do the same. I know who will buckle first.

Eccles 23-24 I didn't list as an injury. For the hard of reading his injury record above is in the post you quoted. I'll agree it should have said 3 of the last 4 seasons and not the last 3. My error, but he's another who gets injured. Let's see how this season goes.
 

JSL

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  • Tuesday at 12:57 PM
  • #84
Just imagine the possibility of replacing Sheaf with Josh Brownhill who is still without a club. I am sure there has to be a plan for having sold Sheaf and loaning out two strikers
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Tuesday at 12:58 PM
  • #85
JSL said:
Just imagine the possibility of replacing Sheaf with Josh Brownhill who is still without a club. I am sure there has to be a plan for having sold Sheaf and loaning out two strikers
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Well he's just turned down a contract worth £100k a week so doubt he will come to us on a quarter of that
 
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JSL

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  • Tuesday at 1:09 PM
  • #86
Ccfcisparks said:
Well he's just turned down a contract worth £100k a week so doubt he will come to us on a quarter of that
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When and whom did he do that to? I have just read that he was n £45k a week at Burnley and thought he could be got for less now he is in his final years of his career
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Tuesday at 1:10 PM
  • #87
JSL said:
When and whom did he do that to? I have just read that he was n £45k a week at Burnley and thought he could be got for less now he is in his final years of his career
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A saudi team.

He also turned down Wolves.
 

JSL

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  • Tuesday at 1:14 PM
  • #88
I'm not sure I would want to go to Saudi for any amount either
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Tuesday at 1:20 PM
  • #89
rob9872 said:
This has nothing to do with Sheaf, I know you're obsessed with him, but he's gone time to move on and not by saying how a very average squad player is more than he is. I'll tell you what I won't mention him, see if you can do the same. I know who will buckle first.

Eccles 23-24 I didn't list as an injury. For the hard of reading his injury record above is in the post you quoted. I'll agree it should have said 3 of the last 4 seasons and not the last 3. My error, but he's another who gets injured. Let's see how this season goes.
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It has everything to do with him and your coping strategy. You have had a pop at Eccles and prefaced it by smearing those critical of Sheaf's fitness record. You have had another cry here by going on about people saying he was an average squad player, before then running for cover and pointing the finger about who is going to say something next. It is very obvious what you are doing.

The reality is, Eccles is of a similar standard and can do a job. Lampard obviously feels the same way. They'll be times this season he will be called upon, and it won't surprise me if he steps up. When that happens you are going to have to suck that up.
 

rob9872

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  • Tuesday at 1:26 PM
  • #90
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It has everything to do with him and your coping strategy. You have had a pop at Eccles and prefaced it by smearing those critical of Sheaf's fitness record. You have had another cry here by going on about people saying he was an average squad player, before then running for cover and pointing the finger about who is going to say something next. It is very obvious what you are doing.

The reality is, Eccles is of a similar standard and can do a job. Lampard obviously feels the same way. They'll be times this season he will be called upon, and it won't surprise me if he steps up. When that happens you are going to have to suck that up.
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So you didn't even manage one post. Weirdo.

Eccles might also have been sold if he was a) fit or b) someone was willing to buy him.

Let's hope he's not required too much.
 

rob9872

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  • Tuesday at 1:32 PM
  • #91
Just also read in a piece on Hamer, that the Dutch window closes midnight tonight. Could we possibly still see MVE leave?
 

Skybluecol

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  • Tuesday at 1:46 PM
  • #92
rob9872 said:
Lots suggesting Eccles might be the answer. I'm not his biggest fan, but we'll likely need him, however the rhetoric constantly aimed at Sheaf on here was that he's injury prone. Eccles 2 years younger has missed a chunk of every season in the last 3 through injury and isn't yet fit this season:

SeasonInjury Period
2021–22July 21 to Nov 21
Feb 22 to Apr 22
2022–23Dec 22 to Jan 23
2024–25Oct-24
March 25 to April 25
May 25 to ongoing
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You missed out 2023-24 when he played 51 games in all comps (44 out of 46 in the league)

EDIT: ignore, saw your latest comment
 
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rob9872

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  • Tuesday at 1:47 PM
  • #93
Skybluecol said:
You missed out 2023-24 when he played 51 games in all comps (44 out of 46 in the league)
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I didn't miss it, I corrected further down to say 3 of last 4. It was an injury record so didn't list the season as no injuries.
 
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Grendel

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  • Tuesday at 1:50 PM
  • #94
rob9872 said:
Just also read in a piece on Hamer, that the Dutch window closes midnight tonight. Could we possibly still see MVE leave?
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No club there would pay anything like worth considering
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Tuesday at 1:52 PM
  • #95
rob9872 said:
So you didn't even manage one post. Weirdo.

Eccles might also have been sold if he was a) fit or b) someone was willing to buy him.

Let's hope he's not required too much.
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You really are struggling to cope with this. How on earth you can try and spin it in this way really magnifies that.

Eccles is a fine player, and I am pretty sure he will do well when called upon.
 

rob9872

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  • Tuesday at 1:53 PM
  • #96
Grendel said:
No club there would pay anything like worth considering
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Probably true although he was linked with Turkish teams and theirs is until 12th September.
 

Matt smith

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  • Tuesday at 1:54 PM
  • #97
rob9872 said:
So you didn't even manage one post. Weirdo.

Eccles might also have been sold if he was a) fit or b) someone was willing to buy him.

Let's hope he's not required too much.
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Eccles is a good player and suits playing next to grimes more than sheaf did
 
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Nick

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  • Tuesday at 1:55 PM
  • #98
rob9872 said:
Probably true although he was linked with Turkish teams and theirs is until 12th September.
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It's weird how they can buy from here outside our window?
 

TomRad85

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  • Tuesday at 1:56 PM
  • #99
I always classed Eccles as a less good Sheaf and Robins picking them as a midfield 2 frankly bored me to tears. Last season that gap between the 2 completely closed though, Sheaf has gone downhill no doubt and Eccles looked good at times. Got a better shooting technique too. Lets hope Lampard has rubbed off on him and he has a good season.
 

Nick

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  • Tuesday at 1:57 PM
  • #100
TomRad85 said:
Lets hope Lampard has rubbed off on him and he has a good season.
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Whatever gets them motivated.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Tuesday at 1:58 PM
  • #101
Nick said:
It's weird how they can buy from here outside our window?
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Our clubs can still sell, I'm not sure about buying though. The deadline date was only the same in bigger European leagues, not everywhere
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Tuesday at 1:58 PM
  • #102
Deity said:
Cmon @Saddlebrains you’ve been a City fan for long enough to know that these are the good times. In fact no better time over the last 20+ years …. What ever your beef with King let it go so you can enjoy it rather than looking for the downsides in every scenario.
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My beefs not with King, its with Dean Austin
 

rob9872

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  • Tuesday at 2:00 PM
  • #103
So if he who must not be named with, went for anything between 6.5m & 8.5m, Eccles at 2 years younger and a far superior fitness record must be worth 10m. I'd be more than happy if we got 3m for him and suspect most would.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Tuesday at 2:00 PM
  • #104
Just looking at Josh Eccles appearances in the last 3 years when he has regularly featured he doesn't look injury prone to me.

 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Tuesday at 2:03 PM
  • #105
Saddlebrains said:
My beefs not with King, its with Dean Austin
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If there's any grain of reason in that then he'll be replaced sharpish. I bet he's not...
 
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