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Skybluekyle

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  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,791
skybluetony176 said:
It’s being reported that Boris Johnson, the PM who insisted that we had to introduce voter ID to stop voter fraud (that doesn’t exist on numbers big enough that you can’t count them on one hand) and is definitely not a tool to hamper voter turnout amongst a demographic that would probably vote for someone else, was turned away from his polling station as he had no ID on him.
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It's a bizarre law. The Electoral Commission has stated there was around 1,500 suspected cases of electoral fraud in the last four/five years, and only a small proportion leading to convictions. When taken into context the amount of votes, and the importance of voting, even if all 1,500 was genuine fraud, it is still a very small proportion of votes cast, and in no way should be in-scope for a law change
 
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Ian1779

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  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,792
Skybluekyle said:
It's a bizarre law. The Electoral Commission has stated there was around 1,500 suspected cases of electoral fraud in the last four/five years, and only a small proportion leading to convictions. When taken into context the amount of votes, and the importance of voting, even if all 1,500 was genuine fraud, it is still a very small proportion of votes cast, and in no way should be in-scope for a law change
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It’s a deliberate tactic to discourage certain groups of society from voting.
 
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hamertime

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  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,793
Skybluekyle said:
It's a bizarre law. The Electoral Commission has stated there was around 1,500 suspected cases of electoral fraud in the last four/five years, and only a small proportion leading to convictions. When taken into context the amount of votes, and the importance of voting, even if all 1,500 was genuine fraud, it is still a very small proportion of votes cast, and in no way should be in-scope for a law change
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Exactly, that’s why the rule is working. If you didn’t need any ID, then the fraud would be massively more Than 1500 cases.

It also stops the hordes of illegal immigrants in this country voting.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,794
hamertime said:
Exactly, that’s why the rule is working. If you didn’t need any ID, then the fraud would be massively more Than 1500 cases.

It also stops the hordes of illegal immigrants in this country voting.
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Have you ever been right about anything?
 
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hamertime

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  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,795
shmmeee said:
Have you ever been right about anything?
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I’m always right.

The tories will win the general election also.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,796
hamertime said:
I’m always right.
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The being wrong in the last post was some kind of performance art?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,797
hamertime said:
I’m always right.

The tories will win the general election also.
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Next level trolling
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,798
hamertime said:
Exactly, that’s why the rule is working. If you didn’t need any ID, then the fraud would be massively more Than 1500 cases.

It also stops the hordes of illegal immigrants in this country voting.
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Of those suspected, less than 5 convictions in the last dozen years.

It’s a punitive law that only clowns would consider a necessity.
 
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hamertime

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  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,799
shmmeee said:
The being wrong in the last post was some kind of performance art?
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Sometimes I have to throw something stupid in there otherwise people will get disheartened feeling inferior to me. Not in this case though.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,800
Well it worked yesterday, left my passport in the office and couldn’t be arsed to go back so no voting for me.
 
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PVA

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  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,801
Looking forward to the usual mental gymnastics involved to call the local elections as a disappointing night for Labour
 
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hamertime

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,802
It gives credibility to the voting process knowing only people registered to vote are actually voting for themselves.

It stops oppressed or vulnerable people having their vote taken away from them by other people in their families. They are the only one who can use their vote in privacy.

I’ll say it again the Tories will win the next general election.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,803
hamertime said:
It gives credibility to the voting process knowing only people registered to vote are actually voting for themselves.

It stops oppressed or vulnerable people having their vote taken away from them by other people in their families. They are the only one who can use their vote in privacy.

I’ll say it again the Tories will win the next general election.
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And if the Tories lose despite this American-inspired voter suppression, you’ll say Labour cheated in some way I’m guessing.

The problem for you is that Jacob Rees-Mogg let the cat out of the bag on why they did this.

Jacob Rees-Mogg suggests requiring photo ID to vote was attempt to 'gerrymander' which 'came back to bite' Tories

The government has consistently denied that the reforms were an attempt to help Conservative support in elections, but Mr Rees-Mogg's remarks suggest this is not necessarily the case.
news.sky.com
 
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hamertime

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  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,804
I actually despise the tories but I will still vote for them. The alternative is actually frightening.

This is the only reason they will win.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,805
Brighton Sky Blue said:
And if the Tories lose despite this American-inspired voter suppression, you’ll say Labour cheated in some way I’m guessing.

The problem for you is that Jacob Rees-Mogg let the cat out of the bag on why they did this.

Jacob Rees-Mogg suggests requiring photo ID to vote was attempt to 'gerrymander' which 'came back to bite' Tories

The government has consistently denied that the reforms were an attempt to help Conservative support in elections, but Mr Rees-Mogg's remarks suggest this is not necessarily the case.
news.sky.com
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Stop arguing with a troll, he's her for a WUM.

Nothing he says is ever true
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,806

Police investigate Laurence Fox ‘upskirting’ tweet

Post featured compromising image of the broadcaster Narinder Kaur, who said she was left ‘incredibly upset’
www.theguardian.com

Lozza Fox, the one person who gets owned more than Hamertime
 
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hamertime

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,807
David O'Day said:

Police investigate Laurence Fox ‘upskirting’ tweet

Post featured compromising image of the broadcaster Narinder Kaur, who said she was left ‘incredibly upset’
www.theguardian.com

Lozza Fox, the one person who gets owned more than Hamertime
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You’re completely deluded. You’re in my pocket and you don’t even know it.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,808
hamertime said:
Sometimes I have to throw something stupid in there otherwise people will get disheartened feeling inferior to me. Not in this case though.
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You claimed that a number of alleged voter fraud incidents that happened when there was no voter ID would be higher if there were no voter ID.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,809
hamertime said:
Exactly, that’s why the rule is working. If you didn’t need any ID, then the fraud would be massively more Than 1500 cases.

It also stops the hordes of illegal immigrants in this country voting.
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How would an illegal immigrant appear on the electoral rolls?

You do know how voting and who can vote works in the UK?
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,810
hamertime said:
Exactly, that’s why the rule is working. If you didn’t need any ID, then the fraud would be massively more Than 1500 cases.

It also stops the hordes of illegal immigrants in this country voting.
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You didn't need ID for those cases skippy.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,811
David O'Day said:
Stop arguing with a troll, he's her for a WUM.

Nothing he says is ever true
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Never hurts to have a reminder of Rees-Mogg being proof that accent does not equal intelligence
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,812
hamertime said:
You’re completely deluded. You’re in my pocket and you don’t even know it.
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You're either a WUM or so stupid your mum has to remind you to keep breathing.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,813
PVA said:
Looking forward to the usual mental gymnastics involved to call the local elections as a disappointing night for Labour
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Seems to be "There's no love for Kier Starmer though" which is weird as that would mean that the public hates the tories so much that they will vote in massive numbers for a party lead by someone they don't like. That is an even worse placed for the tories to be.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,814
David O'Day said:

Police investigate Laurence Fox ‘upskirting’ tweet

Post featured compromising image of the broadcaster Narinder Kaur, who said she was left ‘incredibly upset’
www.theguardian.com

Lozza Fox, the one person who gets owned more than Hamertime
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He’s a piece of shit isn’t he.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,815
skybluetony176 said:
He’s a piece of shit isn’t he.
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And really stupid, it's a fatal mixture.
 
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hamertime

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,816
David O'Day said:
And really stupid, it's a fatal mixture.
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But a lot more successful than you and has a spine unlike you, who’s stupid
 
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hamertime

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  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,817
David O'Day said:
You're either a WUM or so stupid your mum has to remind you to keep breathing.
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Keep telling yourself everybody else is stupid but really you know deep down you are and have no friends. This forum your life
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,818
Sunak’s green plan has just been found to be unlawful in the British courts. Green groups argued that it was just word salad and was signed off by the government with no evidence that the government had a plan to achieve it. He’s not having a good day.
 
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hamertime

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,819
skybluetony176 said:
Sunak’s green plan has just been found to be unlawful in the British courts. Green groups argued that it was just word salad and was signed off by the government with no evidence that the government had a plan to achieve it. He’s not having a good day.
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Fair play to him for trying to fob the greens off, the most pointless party in the history of the UK
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,820
David O'Day said:
Seems to be "There's no love for Kier Starmer though" which is weird as that would mean that the public hates the tories so much that they will vote in massive numbers for a party lead by someone they don't like. That is an even worse placed for the tories to be.
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Yep 'The electorate don't like Starmer, they just really, really fucking hate us' is quite the line to go with
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,821
Labour are briefing they believe they are on course for defeat in the West Midlands mayoral race, with support for independent candidate Akhmed Yakoob, who stood on a pro-Gaza ticket, a major factor.

A senior party source said: "It’s the Middle East, not West Midlands, that will have won [Conservative candidate] Andy Street the mayoralty. Once again Hamas are the real villains."
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Taken from the BBC news feed but that can't be a genuine quote. Labour blaming Hamas for them losing the West Midlands mayoral election!
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,822
PVA said:
Yep 'The electorate don't like Starmer, they just really, really fucking hate us' is quite the line to go with
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Haven’t you said the main reason you like Starmer is he’s not a Tory (which in reality he is)?
 
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Grendel

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  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,823
chiefdave said:
Taken from the BBC news feed but that can't be a genuine quote. Labour blaming Hamas for them losing the West Midlands mayoral election!
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It’s a similar line to that peddled in Oldham where they lost council seats to pro Palestine independents
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,824
chiefdave said:
Taken from the BBC news feed but that can't be a genuine quote. Labour blaming Hamas for them losing the West Midlands mayoral election!
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Not a genuine quote it seems:

 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 3, 2024
  • #34,825
I thought counting didn’t start until tomorrow like the London one?
 
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