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Ian1779

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,396
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Do you think we should keep selling them to the Saudis when we know what they're used for?
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Clearly he believes the right to make profit for shareholders supersedes all other rights.
 

Grendel

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,397
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Do you think we should keep selling them to the Saudis when we know what they're used for?
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Well I believe you wanted to remain in the Eu which as a block thrives in sales of arms and equipment to the Saudi regime doesn’t it?
 
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Grendel

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,398
Ian1779 said:
Clearly he believes the right to make profit for shareholders supersedes all other rights.
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The Eu as a block is a big supplier of arms to Israel isn’t it?
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,399
Grendel said:
Well I believe you wanted to remain in the Eu which as a block thrives in sales of arms and equipment to the Saudi regime doesn’t it?
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Dodged like a pro
 

Ian1779

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,400
Grendel said:
The Eu as a block is a big supplier of arms to Israel isn’t it?
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Epic whataboutery.
 

Grendel

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,401
Ccfcisparks said:
Dodged like a pro
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Arms kill people. As long as there is zero discrimination on sales that’s the industry
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,402
Grendel said:
Well I believe you wanted to remain in the Eu which as a block thrives in sales of arms and equipment to the Saudi regime doesn’t it?
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,403
Grendel said:
Well I believe you wanted to remain in the Eu which as a block thrives in sales of arms and equipment to the Saudi regime doesn’t it?
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It is possible to support remaining in the EU without supporting everything it does.
 

Grendel

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,404
Ian1779 said:
Epic whataboutery.
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Not at all.

Comrade Corbyn and you are at one. It’s interesting the one conflict you are invested in involves Jews. Very interesting.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,405
Ian1779 said:
Clearly he believes the right to make profit for shareholders supersedes all other rights.
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Amber Rudd agrees with him on that, as she answered in one 2017 debate
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,406
Grendel said:
Not at all.

Comrade Corbyn and you are at one. It’s interesting the one conflict you are invested in involves Jews. Very interesting.
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And yet not once on Miss Sultana's Twitter page does she use the word 'Jew'.
 

Grendel

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,407
Brighton Sky Blue said:
And yet not once on Miss Sultana's Twitter page does she use the word 'Jew'.
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well

Labour candidate Zarah Sultana is accused of anti-white slur | Express Digest

expressdigest.com
 

Ian1779

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,408
Grendel said:
Not at all.

Comrade Corbyn and you are at one. It’s interesting the one conflict you are invested in involves Jews. Very interesting.
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Of course - in my zero personal experience of meeting or interacting with Jewish people. But as I support the notion that there should be a 2 state solution I am obviously a raving anti-Semite in your world.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,409
Grendel said:
well

Labour candidate Zarah Sultana is accused of anti-white slur | Express Digest

expressdigest.com
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So you're characterising someone as anti-Semitic when they haven't said anything about Jews specifically?
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,410
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It is possible to support remaining in the EU without supporting everything it does.
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Germany extended its arms embargo to Saudi Arabia in December until the end of this year. The British government green lighted a £1.4B arms deal in February with Saudi Arabia. Clearly EU membership has nothing to do with it.
 

Grendel

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,411
Ian1779 said:
Of course - in my zero personal experience of meeting or interacting with Jewish people. But as I support the notion that there should be a 2 state solution I am obviously a raving anti-Semite in your world.
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I haven’t said you are an anti semite. How do you think this obsession from the left of your party helps it’s electability in the U.K.?
 

Grendel

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,412
Brighton Sky Blue said:
So you're characterising someone as anti-Semitic when they haven't said anything about Jews specifically?
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She wanted the Israeli leader killed didn’t she?
 
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wingy

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,413
What happened to the Palestinians was never right and never can be.
That's my view from simple justice,not any political viewpoint.
The rest is constructed shit ,Be that by Gertrude Bell or or America.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,414
Brighton Sky Blue said:
And yet not once on Miss Sultana's Twitter page does she use the word 'Jew'.
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You are aware that her Anti-Semitic tweets were deleted?

Labour Candidate Facing Deselection Over Tony Blair Death Tweet

Coventry South contender Zarah Sultana summoned for fresh NEC interview
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk
 
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Grendel

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,415
dubed said:
You are aware that her Anti-Semitic tweets were deleted?
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its embarrasing
 

Ian1779

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,416
Grendel said:
I haven’t said you are an anti semite. How do you think this obsession from the left of your party helps it’s electability in the U.K.?
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No but that’s what you are implying with the Corbyn reference.

We already know the right don’t give a fuck about human life... it’s a commodity for profit. So who else will speak up if not the left?

There is a bigger question here. Shouldn’t a political party that wants to represent a multicultural place like the UK that is home to Jews, Muslims, Israelis and Palestinians be seeking to find a solution to peace?

The use of force in this conflict is hugely disproportionate yet the ‘calling out’ of the conflict is at best equal, and in reality biased in protection of the side causing the vast majority of the deaths and destruction.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,417
dubed said:
You are aware that her Anti-Semitic tweets were deleted?

Labour Candidate Facing Deselection Over Tony Blair Death Tweet

Coventry South contender Zarah Sultana summoned for fresh NEC interview
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk
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The past comments are indefensible.
 

TomRad85

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,418
dubed said:
You are aware that her Anti-Semitic tweets were deleted?

Labour Candidate Facing Deselection Over Tony Blair Death Tweet

Coventry South contender Zarah Sultana summoned for fresh NEC interview
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk
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Ticks all the boxes for a future Labour leader doesn't she.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,419
Ian1779 said:
No but that’s what you are implying with the Corbyn reference.

We already know the right don’t give a fuck about human life... it’s a commodity for profit. So who else will speak up if not the left?

There is a bigger question here. Shouldn’t a political party that wants to represent a multicultural place like the UK that is home to Jews, Muslims, Israelis and Palestinians be seeking to find a solution to peace?

The use of force in this conflict is hugely disproportionate yet the ‘calling out’ of the conflict is at best equal, and in reality biased in protection of the side causing the vast majority of the deaths and destruction.
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Come to think of it what are the issues that the right in this country has marched in protest for?
 

Ian1779

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,420
TomRad85 said:
Ticks all the boxes for a future Labour leader doesn't she.

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All she needs now is to add some general racism to her portfolio and she’ll be qualified to run the Tory party.
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,421
Ian1779 said:
There is a bigger question here. Shouldn’t a political party that wants to represent a multicultural place like the UK that is home to Jews, Muslims, Israelis and Palestinians be seeking to find a solution to peace?
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The solution being blame everything on the Jews? Brilliant.

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Grendel

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,422
Ian1779 said:
No but that’s what you are implying with the Corbyn reference.

We already know the right don’t give a fuck about human life... it’s a commodity for profit. So who else will speak up if not the left?

There is a bigger question here. Shouldn’t a political party that wants to represent a multicultural place like the UK that is home to Jews, Muslims, Israelis and Palestinians be seeking to find a solution to peace?

The use of force in this conflict is hugely disproportionate yet the ‘calling out’ of the conflict is at best equal, and in reality biased in protection of the side causing the vast majority of the deaths and destruction.
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The hard left has always had an issue with jews - livingstone felt the wrath of the jewish commumity in his GLC days. To claim he is not anti semite would be absurd and corbyn is a prodigee of livingstone
 
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wingy

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,423
Dah time to log out.
 

TomRad85

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,424
Ian1779 said:
All she needs now is to add some general racism to her portfolio and she’ll be qualified to run the Tory party.
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She already did, sounds like she's not overly keen on white people.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,425
TomRad85 said:
The solution being blame everything on the Jews? Brilliant.

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Is a two state solution blaming everything on the Jews?
 

Ian1779

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,426
WhY aRe LaBoUr Mp’S sO rAcIsT??
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,427
Grendel said:
The hard left has always had an issue with jews - livingstone felt the wrath of the jewish commumity in his GLC days. To claim he is not anti semite would be absurd and corbyn is a prodigee of livingstone
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So has the hard right. In fact, the far right literally wrote the book on anti-Semitism.

By the way it's spelt 'protege'
 

Ian1779

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,428
TomRad85 said:
The solution being blame everything on the Jews? Brilliant.

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That’s a fucking stretch to get that out of my post.... love to see your working out there.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,429
Interlude

A wistful me on a gun turret, golan heights, 85

 
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Grendel

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  • May 16, 2021
  • #3,430
Ian1779 said:
WhY aRe LaBoUr Mp’S sO rAcIsT??
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mmmm lets single out a jewish mp

 
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