Do you want to discuss boring politics? (27 Viewers)

clint van damme · Mar 26, 2024

rob9872 said:
In an ideal world I'd agree, but we already cant build houses fast enough to deal with population. I know anyone suggesting capping immigration is labelled a racist on here, but surely limiting at least until we can house everyone would be a long way towards solving the issue.

If capping immigration solved that issue it will cause others, e.g would only make the pensioner to working age person ratio worse and affect social care for the elderly which relies heavily on immigration.
I think we need a good look at how we do things and in all probability that would probably mean ripping up what we've been doing for decades and trying something new.

I don't think that's realistic in a single parliamentary term so would require some sort of cross party consensus and some grown up thinking rather than all this silly culture war bollocks we're getting instead.

fernandopartridge · Mar 26, 2024

rob9872 said:
In an ideal world I'd agree, but we already cant build houses fast enough to deal with population. I know anyone suggesting capping immigration is labelled a racist on here, but surely limiting at least until we can house everyone would be a long way towards solving the issue.

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The population growth rate isn't very high, the volume of houses completed especially private ones is lower than it has been historically.

wingy · Mar 26, 2024

fernandopartridge said:
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The population growth rate isn't very high, the volume of houses completed especially private ones is lower than it has been historically.

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Austerity or something more?

fernandopartridge · Mar 26, 2024

Probably fair to say that today's figure of net additional dwellings is better than it was under the first two terms of the last Labour government, no wonder there was a house price boom.

Liquid Gold · Mar 26, 2024

It’s not just building houses it’s making sure those houses go to the people that need them and don’t quickly end up in the hands of private landlords.

skybluetony176 · Mar 26, 2024

rob9872 said:
In an ideal world I'd agree, but we already cant build houses fast enough to deal with population. I know anyone suggesting capping immigration is labelled a racist on here, but surely limiting at least until we can house everyone would be a long way towards solving the issue.

The problem with capping immigration is you cap growth. The sensible thing would be for the government to invest in social housing thus reducing dependency on private landlords freeing up private housing stock to go back to home ownership.

fernandopartridge · Mar 26, 2024

What Have Fourteen Years of Conservative Rule Done to Britain?

Living standards have fallen. The country is exhausted by constant drama. But the U.K. can’t move on from the Tories without facing up to the damage that has occurred.

www.newyorker.com

Good article, this is why this pandering to the idea that Labour spends all the money should be blown to the moon imo. Governments must spend money.

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shmmeee · Mar 26, 2024

wingy said:
Sign up for a year deal?

I’ve fixed it now, but from Truss until a few months ago was rough, my last deal ran out just as truss came in.

shmmeee · Mar 26, 2024

Really interesting policy idea. Struggling to see anything wrong with it, enforcing TV or radio broadcasting is like herding cats. This would make it far more efficient.

Philosoraptor · Mar 26, 2024

North Korea missing the pulse of society by only censoring a part of Alan Titchmarsh.

North Korea TV censors Alan Titchmarsh's trousers

The gardening presenter fell foul of the secretive state's strict rules because of his choice of attire.

www.bbc.co.uk

shmmeee · Mar 26, 2024

Philosorapter said:
North Korea missing the pulse of society by only censoring a part of Alan Titchmarsh.

North Korea TV censors Alan Titchmarsh's trousers

The gardening presenter fell foul of the secretive state's strict rules because of his choice of attire.

www.bbc.co.uk

“Jeans are seen a symbol of western imperialism”

Did @Brighton Sky Blue write this?

fernandopartridge · Mar 26, 2024

shmmeee said:
Really interesting policy idea. Struggling to see anything wrong with it, enforcing TV or radio broadcasting is like herding cats. This would make it far more efficient.

How does it work? Why again are Labour discussing Tory talking points?

shmmeee · Mar 26, 2024

fernandopartridge said:
How does it work? Why again are Labour discussing Tory talking points?

What talking points? The drum beat to kill the licence fee as it is has been getting louder for some time and frankly I imagine there’s just going to be more people like me who watch everything via streaming networks (aside from radio which I vakuenhighly but don’t need a licence for). This way the BBC gets funding along the same model as always and the whole “we took this granny to court for not paying her licence” stuff goes away making it far less susceptible to tabloid campaigns.

fernandopartridge · Mar 26, 2024

shmmeee said:
What talking points? The drum beat to kill the licence fee as it is has been getting louder for some time and frankly I imagine there’s just going to be more people like me who watch everything via streaming networks (aside from radio which I vakuenhighly but don’t need a licence for). This way the BBC gets funding along the same model as always and the whole “we took this granny to court for not paying her licence” stuff goes away making it far less susceptible to tabloid campaigns.

How does it work?

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 26, 2024

shmmeee said:
“Jeans are seen a symbol of western imperialism”

Did @Brighton Sky Blue write this?

Guilty as charged. Salmon pink chinos ironed for Wembley already

shmmeee · Mar 26, 2024

fernandopartridge said:
How does it work?

Put a levy on internet provider charges basically. Details TBA but you’d imagine you’d need less as more people are paying and admin costs are massively reduced.

wingy · Mar 26, 2024

Reduce it to nothing no one wants it anyway in it's current form?

Liquid Gold · Mar 26, 2024

Not paid a tv license for years. Find a better way to fund it and keep its independence.

PVA · Mar 26, 2024

Good grief. I'm really going to enjoy seeing them wiped out at the election.

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 27, 2024

PVA said:
Good grief. I'm really going to enjoy seeing them wiped out at the election.

His orgasm live at pmqs was awful

Sick Boy · Mar 28, 2024

shmmeee said:
Really interesting policy idea. Struggling to see anything wrong with it, enforcing TV or radio broadcasting is like herding cats. This would make it far more efficient.

It’s similar in Italy where it’s automatically paid as part of the electricity bill.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 28, 2024

Sky Blue Pete said:
His orgasm live at pmqs was awful

Wait what

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 28, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Wait what

lol

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 28, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Wait what

jimmyhillsfanclub · Mar 28, 2024

Makes me want to hate all white men with beards.......should be shot

fernandopartridge · Mar 28, 2024

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Sky Blue Pete · Mar 28, 2024

fernandopartridge said:
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It isn’t

shmmeee · Mar 28, 2024

The next year is going to be literally nothing but:

Journalist: “Mr Starmer, will you promise more money for X?”

Starmer: “I can’t promise more money for anything”

Journalist: “Starmer says no money for X”

Isn’t it?

Not sure if better or worse than the alternate timeline:

Journalist: “Will you promise more money for X?”

Starmer: “Yes”

Journalist: “Labour promises crazy Corbynite spending spree”

Would be so nice is we had a serious media in this country.

fernandopartridge · Mar 28, 2024

shmmeee said:
The next year is going to be literally nothing but:

Journalist: “Mr Starmer, will you promise more money for X?”

Starmer: “I can’t promise more money for anything”

Journalist: “Starmer says no money for X”

Isn’t it?

Not sure if better or worse than the alternate timeline:

Journalist: “Will you promise more money for X?”

Starmer: “Yes”

Journalist: “Labour promises crazy Corbynite spending spree”

Would be so nice is we had a serious media in this country.

I agree with you but I'd just reframe their question back to them in relation to it not being about funding as such but about providing a level of service the public expects.

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shmmeee · Mar 28, 2024

fernandopartridge said:
I agree with you but I'd just reframe their question back to them in relation to it not being about funding as such but about providing a level of service the public expects.

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Every election year this happens. Everything is reduced to “how would you pay for it?” And there’s no room for a “well actually” answer cos it’s election time and everything has to be three words long and in bright colours so the normies understand.

As a left wing leader you either say “I’m doing this” and face constant cries that you’re going to max out the credit card. Or you don’t and you’re told you’ll do nothing. On the right you just need to go “I’ll be a c**t to this group of people you don’t like” and it’s a free pass.

Frustrating.

SBAndy · Mar 28, 2024

I feel dirty.

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 28, 2024

SBAndy said:
I feel dirty.

Wanker comment that

SBAndy · Mar 28, 2024

Sky Blue Pete said:
Wanker comment that

Really? I’m surprised.

Out of curiosity, is anyone aware of precedent for government acquiring a business through administration? Virtually no chance it happens, like, but be interesting.

shmmeee · Mar 28, 2024

How bad at capitalism do you have to be to bankrupt a monopoly?

fernandopartridge · Mar 28, 2024

SBAndy said:
Really? I’m surprised.

Out of curiosity, is anyone aware of precedent for government acquiring a business through administration? Virtually no chance it happens, like, but be interesting.

When the government took on shares in the banks after the GFC, weren't they technically doing something similar

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