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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,441
fernandopartridge said:
Thought this was interesting




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Probably as expected ish. The economy and healthcare always top for all sides. The economy should be on the turn by the election but public services and in particular nhs waiting lists, will cost the Tories
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,442
SBAndy said:
Genuine Q, so don’t get snotty, but what is this actually telling us?
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that Labour is massively over estimating the importance of tax and spend to voters
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,443
Has this country lost its mind ? Honestly this has shocked me not only the callers ignorance to reality , but also Rachel Johnson being a thick c**t too

Btw that's 31200 a year DISPOSIBLE income

 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,444
I think the caller was saying that was between two people. The point is though, if Rachel Johnson thinks that isn't very much - wait until she hears how much disposable income an average household as.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,445
fernandopartridge said:
I think the caller was saying that was between two people. The point is though, if Rachel Johnson thinks that isn't very much - wait until she hears how much disposable income an average household as.
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I mean 600 between the household disposable a week is fucking loads , the caller is a clown
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,446
Evo1883 said:
I mean 600 between the household disposable a week is fucking loads , the caller is a clown
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Especially if he and she have car plans/Electric etc, subscription to gym, country club,etc , holiday factored in?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,447
wingy said:
Especially if he and she have car plans/Electric etc, subscription to gym, country club,etc , holiday factored in?
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Doesn't matter really wingy , it's the UK average wage alone disposable, over 30k to live doing what you choose after all bills are paid ..
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,448
Evo1883 said:
Doesn't matter really wingy , it's the UK average wage alone disposable, over 30k to live doing what you choose after all bills are paid ..
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What's the conclusion then?
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,449
fernandopartridge said:
What's the conclusion then?
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That the caller and the host are clueless wankers , as I stated..

It's a huge amount of disposable income
 
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rob9872

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,450
Depends what you call bills. If it still has to pay to run a car and counts tv subscriptions, mobile phones, broadband as non essential bills, holidays, clothes etc all to come out then certainly a lot less. Appreciate it's more than most, but not a million miles from where we are and running two cars, following the city and a couple of holidays a year, doesn't leave much over.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,451
rob9872 said:
Depends what you call bills. If it still has to pay to run a car and counts tv subscriptions, mobile phones, broadband as non essential bills, holidays, clothes etc all to come out then certainly a lot less. Appreciate it's more than most, but not a million miles from where we are and running two cars, following the city and a couple of holidays a year, doesn't leave much over.
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It's top 5% , if people struggle on 100k they are living an expensive lifestyle
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,452
I suppose it's relative.

I haven't listened to the interview, but if someone on 100k is saying they can't do some of the things they used to do, for financial reasons, then I'm sure they're being genuine.

Same as someone on 30k can't do some of the things they used to do.

It's just those things are probably very, very different!

But if the 100k person is saying it's tough to put the food on the table then clearly that's a load of shit.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,453
fernandopartridge said:
I think the caller was saying that was between two people. The point is though, if Rachel Johnson thinks that isn't very much - wait until she hears how much disposable income an average household as.
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There's been a few people saying stuff like this recently. Sure they'd all be happy if the government announced a huge increase in minimum wage and benefit payments
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,454
PVA said:
I suppose it's relative.

I haven't listened to the interview, but if someone on 100k is saying they can't do some of the things they used to do, for financial reasons, then I'm sure they're being genuine.

Same as someone on 30k can't do some of the things they used to do.

It's just those things are probably very, very different!

But if the 100k person is saying it's tough to put the food on the table then clearly that's a load of shit.
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100k is not a poverty wage and I won't even argue it . If you're struggling on a household wage of 100k then you're a fucking melt .. end of story

Again , it's top 5% in terms of household income
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,455
shmmeee said:
I’m left wing
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PVA

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,456
Evo1883 said:
100k is not a poverty wage and I won't even argue it . If you're struggling on a household wage of 100k then you're a fucking melt .. end of story

Again , it's top 5% in terms of household income
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Of course it's not a poverty wage, I don't think anyone would suggest it is. I'm certainly not!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,457
Evo1883 said:
100k is not a poverty wage and I won't even argue it . If you're struggling on a household wage of 100k then you're a fucking melt .. end of story

Again , it's top 5% in terms of household income
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It doesn’t grant you a top 5% lifestyle tho and that’s the complaint. Wages are shit across the board. People on 100k should probably be on £200k, people on £30k should probably be on £60k. We’re all getting shafted and no one on PAYE is to blame.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,458
It’s hard to have sympathy for households earning £100K a year but the fact is like most households pre Truss they were probably living within their means. When Truss shocked the economy with her budget it made mortgages unaffordable for many households as all of a sudden even people on £100K a year were effected as their mortgage probably reflected their income, same as anyone else with a mortgage under a certain age.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,459
skybluetony176 said:
It’s hard to have sympathy for households earning £100K a year but the fact is like most households pre Truss they were probably living within their means. When Truss shocked the economy with her budget it made mortgages unaffordable for many households as all of a sudden even people on £100K a year were effected as their mortgage probably reflected their income, same as anyone else with a mortgage under a certain age.
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Yes, July is going to be fun for us when our fixed rate comes to an end.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,460
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yes, July is going to be fun for us when our fixed rate comes to an end.
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It’s beyond the peak
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,461
People who have been on large incomes for many years but still have mortgages (and then moan about them) do my fucking head in......

Financially illiterate morons.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,462
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
People who have been on large incomes for many years but still have mortgages (and then moan about them) do my fucking head in......

Financially illiterate morons.
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Some empathy might be useful lol
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,463
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yes, July is going to be fun for us when our fixed rate comes to an end.
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You’ll be OK. It’s roughly back where it was. Mine went up by over 50% at its worse. Proper shitty six months or so.
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,464
Sky Blue Pete said:
Some empathy might be useful lol
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Not for the people I'm talking about. My mates sister as an example...... Shes had a basic salary of over 100k for more than 10 years, gets bonuses on top but still has an interest only mortgage......and whined like fuck when the interest rates finally went up. Fuck off.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,465
shmmeee said:
You’ll be OK. It’s roughly back where it was. Mine went up by over 50% at its worse. Proper shitty six months or so.
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Yep I agree with that
I suppose it’s the imbalance that comes when middle class or upper class people suffer financial issues as opposed to those in our society on minimum wage or zero contracts
It’s like the Tory that said you shouldn’t need to use foodbanks if you managed your money properly?
Don’t know the answer but there needs a huge reset in property
Think the year of jubilee referred to in the Old Testament is a good idea but obviously completely impractical
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,466
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep I agree with that
I suppose it’s the imbalance that comes when middle class or upper class people suffer financial issues as opposed to those in our society on minimum wage or zero contracts
It’s like the Tory that said you shouldn’t need to use foodbanks if you managed your money properly?
Don’t know the answer but there needs a huge reset in property
Think the year of jubilee referred to in the Old Testament is a good idea but obviously completely impractical
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I’m increasingly of the belief house prices are accountable for a large portion of this country’s problems. So I think you fix it by building fucking loads of houses.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,467
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yes, July is going to be fun for us when our fixed rate comes to an end.
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Let's dilly dally Bank of England uneducated retard!
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,468
Another normal day on the left…

 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,469
shmmeee said:
I’m increasingly of the belief house prices are accountable for a large portion of this country’s problems. So I think you fix it by building fucking loads of houses.
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I agree with that, I think the issue is wider though and extends to all property both domestic and commercial. Property used as an investment rather than investing in something productive is a disaster. The problem is, unravelling it all is going to hurt a lot of people and institutions I think.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,470
shmmeee said:
I’m increasingly of the belief house prices are accountable for a large portion of this country’s problems. So I think you fix it by building fucking loads of houses.
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Yep that would
 

rob9872

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,471
In an ideal world I'd agree, but we already cant build houses fast enough to deal with population. I know anyone suggesting capping immigration is labelled a racist on here, but surely limiting at least until we can house everyone would be a long way towards solving the issue.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,472
shmmeee said:
You’ll be OK. It’s roughly back where it was. Mine went up by over 50% at its worse. Proper shitty six months or so.
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Sign up for a year deal?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,473
rob9872 said:
In an ideal world I'd agree, but we already cant build houses fast enough to deal with population. I know anyone suggesting capping immigration is labelled a racist on here, but surely limiting at least until we can house everyone would be a long way towards solving the issue.
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The issue of private landlords collecting more housing that they don’t need is the elephant in the room.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,474
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The issue of private landlords collecting more housing that they don’t need is the elephant in the room.
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Co's there's no alternative?
No not really just a less productive one thanks to Gov't sweetener led initiative?
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #34,475
rob9872 said:
In an ideal world I'd agree, but we already cant build houses fast enough to deal with population. I know anyone suggesting capping immigration is labelled a racist on here, but surely limiting at least until we can house everyone would be a long way towards solving the issue.
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Would it? The housing that would be freed up by keeping migrants out (which comes with its own costs) is not going to be automatically desirable to native Brits.
 
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