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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (30 Viewers)

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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #34,406
Ian1779 said:
It’s a piece of clothing. There is literally nothing to be upset about.
I feel sorry for the people getting angry, they’re gonna be apoplectic when they find out St George is not a white English man….
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For you and I, and most on this forum, no its nothing to be upset about.

But there are an awful lot of people out there who nearly have a coronary at this sort of thing!
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #34,407
Ian1779 said:
It’s a piece of clothing. There is literally nothing to be upset about.
I feel sorry for the people getting angry, they’re gonna be apoplectic when they find out St George is not a white English man….
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And the flag is actually Italian in origin.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #34,408
 

rob9872

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #34,409
skybluetony176 said:
And the flag is actually Italian in origin.
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Ooh look how clever I am it was Italy, I read it earlier today and reposted it here to look smart. I've also used the term Flag Shagger cause I'm a cool dude. That'll show the gammons, they're all racist xenophobic rapists. I do support the Rainbow flag though, because that's a good political message to show I'm compassionate
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 22, 2024
  • #34,410
rob9872 said:
Ooh look how clever I am it was Italy, I read it earlier today and reposted it here to look smart. I've also used the term Flag Shagger cause I'm a cool dude. That'll show the gammons, they're all racist xenophobic rapists. I do support the Rainbow flag though, because that's a good political message to show I'm compassionate
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You okay hun? You seem to have gone full snowflake.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,411
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The comment about taxes and spending didn’t start with me. My question was about the actual compromises the Tories have had to make in government or while electioneering. Seems to me they had to make some social policy ones while with the Lib Dems but since it’s only been them in charge they’ve gone more rogue with each reincarnation.

Cut spending all over the place, pledge to send refugees to Rwanda, Liz Truss’ any % crash the £ speed run, Boris proroguing Parliament etc etc. They’ve compromised on jack shit. But if a shadow minister dares to appear on a picket line he’s out because it looks a bit too Bolshy.
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You’re saying that what a party says at an election is often considerably more centrist than what they do in power. Interesting. Interesting.
 

chiefdave

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,412
Surprised to see Anneliese Dodds, doing the rounds this morning, refusing to confirm Labour will match the Tories commitment to the triple lock.

If we're supposed to believe that the messaging from the Labour leadership is not actually what they will implement but what they think will appeal to wavering Tory voters this seems an odd move. Can't imagine it doing much to persuade any pensioner to switch their vote.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,413
chiefdave said:
Surprised to see Anneliese Dodds, doing the rounds this morning, refusing to confirm Labour will match the Tories commitment to the triple lock.

If we're supposed to believe that the messaging from the Labour leadership is not actually what they will implement but what they think will appeal to wavering Tory voters this seems an odd move. Can't imagine it doing much to persuade any pensioner to switch their vote.
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Labour aren’t promising any huge spending that will derail their election campaign with endless “how is it paid for” debates playing into voter concerns about Labour overspending. Hope that helps. The theme through all of this (public sector pay, green investment, HS2, triple lock) is spending.
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,414
shmmeee said:
Labour aren’t promising any huge spending that will derail their election campaign with endless “how is it paid for” debates playing into voter concerns about Labour overspending. Hope that helps. The theme through all of this (public sector pay, green investment, HS2, triple lock) is spending.
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That's absolutely fine, but don't get upset when people who think they should spend sqy they're not voting for them.
Hope that helps.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,415
clint van damme said:
That's absolutely fine, but don't get upset when people who think they should spend sqy they're not voting for them.
Hope that helps.
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I’m not upset, I’m massively frustrated because I’m left wing and would quite like the left wing to stop shooting itself in the foot and get its ideas implemented because I think the country could do with them.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,416
shmmeee said:
Labour aren’t promising any huge spending that will derail their election campaign with endless “how is it paid for” debates playing into voter concerns about Labour overspending. Hope that helps. The theme through all of this (public sector pay, green investment, HS2, triple lock) is spending.
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The triple lock exists already?

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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,417
Ian1779 said:
It’s a piece of clothing. There is literally nothing to be upset about.
I feel sorry for the people getting angry, they’re gonna be apoplectic when they find out St George is not a white English man….
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You don't understand that to some it is important , Ian.
If our kit manufacturer decided we had to change most of the sky blue to red on a ten year deal I think you and I would both be upset about it.
As for the colour of the skin of St George most people wouldn't really care and you're assuming , as usual, that anyone with any sense of patriotism to being " English" is a racist.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,418
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
If our kit manufacturer decided we had to change most of the sky blue to red on a ten year deal I think you and I would both be upset about it.
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Most of the sky blue? Ten year deal?

Have you actually seen the new England shirt, or are you just being Hot Cross Alan again?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,419
SBT said:
Most of the sky blue? Ten year deal?

Have you actually seen the new England shirt, or are you just being Hot Cross Alan again?
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Have you seen it and do you think it's a great idea ?
Let's get rid of the elephant on our badge . No one has an elephant. It's hardly football is it ?
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,420
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Have you seen it ?
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Come on bit harsh - he’s a hot shot journo for the Basildon Gazette. Last week he had a scoop that someone had left some dog mess on Southend pier - an out of town assignment.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,421
SBT said:
Hot Cross Alan
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Ian1779

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,422
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
You don't understand that to some it is important , Ian.
If our kit manufacturer decided we had to change most of the sky blue to red on a ten year deal I think you and I would both be upset about it.
As for the colour of the skin of St George most people wouldn't really care and you're assuming , as usual, that anyone with any sense of patriotism to being " English" is a racist.
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England have had numerous kits over the years that have not contained St George’s flag, or even versions of the flag distorted or manipulated for commercial means. The main icon on an England shirt is the 3 lions badge, so making some half arsed comparison involving us is irrelevant.
As for your second point, I’m making no assumptions at all, but let’s be clear you are talking about worshipping a piece of cloth and a man from Turkey that killed imaginary creatures.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,423
Ian1779 said:
England have had numerous kits over the years that have not contained St George’s flag, or even versions of the flag distorted or manipulated for commercial means. The main icon on an England shirt is the 3 lions badge, so making some half arsed comparison involving us is irrelevant.
As for your second point, I’m making no assumptions at all, but let’s be clear you are talking about worshipping a piece of cloth and a man from Turkey that killed imaginary creatures.
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You are making assumptions . You always do. It's how you justify yourself.
Like everyone , I thought the story of George and the dragon was true so I'm really pleased your extensive knowledge has put me right.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,424
Brighton Sky Blue said:
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How the teaching going these days ?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,425
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
How the teaching going these days ?
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I don’t do it anymore. Retraining to get a doctorate
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,426
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don’t do it anymore. Retraining to get a doctorate
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Good for you. About time.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,427
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Good for you. About time.
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Massive pay drop for a number of years but out the other side it’ll pay off both monetarily and in job satisfaction. If it goes tits up I can always go back to teaching and being a union rep
 
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Ian1779

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,428
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
You are making assumptions . You always do. It's how you justify yourself.
Like everyone , I thought the story of George and the dragon was true so I'm really pleased your extensive knowledge has put me right.
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What are you on about?? It’s a fabric cross on the back of a football shirt, it’s not destroying our national identity.

You should be far more outraged about its disgusting price to be fair.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,429
Ian1779 said:
What are you on about?? It’s a fabric cross on the back of a football shirt, it’s not destroying our national identity.

You should be far more outraged about its disgusting price to be fair.
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Anyone who is genuinely offended by the design is doing the designers a massive favour by giving it extra attention.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,430
Ian1779 said:
What are you on about?? It’s a fabric cross on the back of a football shirt, it’s not destroying our national identity.

You should be far more outraged about its disgusting price to be fair.
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I'd never buy an England shirt.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 24, 2024
  • #34,431
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,432
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Massive pay drop for a number of years but out the other side it’ll pay off both monetarily and in job satisfaction. If it goes tits up I can always go back to teaching and being a union rep
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Hope you never go back man. Was the best thing I ever did for quality of life. Hope you get one of those overpaid fake email work from home jobs like me. You’ve earned it.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,433
shmmeee said:
Hope you never go back man. Was the best thing I ever did for quality of life. Hope you get one of those overpaid fake email work from home jobs like me. You’ve earned it.
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Either that or teachers start getting treated properly and the lure of a return is irresistible.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,434
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Massive pay drop for a number of years but out the other side it’ll pay off both monetarily and in job satisfaction. If it goes tits up I can always go back to teaching and being a union rep
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Why on earth would you ever go back ? You've done it once and it'll be worse than ever next time round. Don't ever go back. Move on. Do something that gives you a good work / life balance .
Teaching is truly dreadful in the UK and the pay is minimum wage given the hours you put in.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,435
clint van damme said:
Either that or teachers start getting treated properly and the lure of a return is irresistible.
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Im sure Starmer will sort it out
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,436
Grendel said:
Im sure Starmer will sort it out
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Remember him laughing at the profession with his mate Bozza a few years ago
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,437
Thought this was interesting




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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,438
State of these ghouls


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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,439
fernandopartridge said:
State of these ghouls


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What does he even mean?
 

SBAndy

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  • Mar 25, 2024
  • #34,440
fernandopartridge said:
Thought this was interesting




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Genuine Q, so don’t get snotty, but what is this actually telling us?
 
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