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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (21 Viewers)

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PVA

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  • Nov 15, 2023
  • #31,886
fernandopartridge said:
I'd be angry if, while a genocide is taking place, my interviewer was speaking to me solely for a "Corbyn loves terrorists lol" gotcha. It's really a sign of the moral cesspit the media is that the c**t is still prominent.

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But what else did he expect from being interviewed by Piers Morgan?

As you say he's a c**t, and he was only going to go into that interview looking for one thing - and Corbyn handed it to him on a gold plate.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 15, 2023
  • #31,887
PVA said:
But what else did he expect from being interviewed by Piers Morgan?

As you say he's a c**t, and he was only going to go into that interview looking for one thing - and Corbyn handed it to him on a gold plate.
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Because Corbyn is naive at the best of times.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 15, 2023
  • #31,888
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Because Corbyn is naive at the best of times.
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Exactly, I think that's the point shmmeee was making at the start really, he's just not very good at this.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 15, 2023
  • #31,889
PVA said:
Exactly, I think that's the point shmmeee was making at the start really, he's just not very good at this.
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He was fantastic in 2017. Went downhill steadily and then rapidly thereafter
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 15, 2023
  • #31,890
fernandopartridge said:
I'd be angry if, while a genocide is taking place, my interviewer was speaking to me solely for a "Corbyn loves terrorists lol" gotcha. It's really a sign of the moral cesspit the media is that the c**t is still prominent.

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To be fair to Morgan, who we all agree can be a bit of a c*nt, he answered both McCluskey and Corbyns direct questions. He condemned the Israeli settlements and condemned the ability for Israel to control energy and water. He also commented on having a Palestinian on the show recently who had had numerous members of his family killed by Israel.

Morgan asked two direct and legitimate questions, do they class Hamas a terror group and should they be left in charge of Gaza (suggesting that if they are, no deal will ever be done by Israel). McCluskey answered, Corbyn refused numerous times He also lied about about the story when he said ‘friend from Hamas’

McCluskey obviously knows Corbyns real/full views on this subject as he desperately tried to protect him and answer on his behalf. I can only assume Corbyn sees Hamas as an acceptable means to end.
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 15, 2023
  • #31,891
Sick Boy said:
You have to admire Corbyn's passion though, he actually seems to genuinely care, unlike most other politicians.
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 15, 2023
  • #31,892
Bassem Youssef tore Morgan a new one in his interview. Worth looking it up if you haven’t seen it already.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 15, 2023
  • #31,893
skybluetony176 said:
Bassem Youssef tore Morgan a new one in his interview. Worth looking it up if you haven’t seen it already.
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It is indeed.
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 15, 2023
  • #31,894
PVA said:
Exactly, I think that's the point shmmeee was making at the start really, he's just not very good at this.
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His backtracking on Brexit did for him - if he’s stuck by his natural anti immigration and anti EU stance he’d have ironically been in a far stronger position when the election took place
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 15, 2023
  • #31,895
PVA said:
But what else did he expect from being interviewed by Piers Morgan?

As you say he's a c**t, and he was only going to go into that interview looking for one thing - and Corbyn handed it to him on a gold plate.
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That's a fair point, I'm not sure

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Bugsy

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  • Nov 15, 2023
  • #31,896
What a mess uk politics is in, fucking detest the lot of them, all corrupt untrustworthy cunts. If it were possible I'd ask everyone not to vote.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 15, 2023
  • #31,897
Grendel said:
His backtracking on Brexit did for him - if he’s stuck by his natural anti immigration and anti EU stance he’d have ironically been in a far stronger position when the election took place
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Did for him completely not just because of the way the vote went, but his refusal to back a line showed her was incapable of leadership. He had to either go with his personal view, or embrace his party's view under the spirit of in it together. To do neither was utterly feeble really.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,898
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He was fantastic in 2017. Went downhill steadily and then rapidly thereafter
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He was great while no one took him seriously and there were no foreign policy issues. Once people started challenging him he falls apart.

He’s spends all his time around people who agree with everything he says and has real trouble once he’s outside that bubble. That’s a deal breaker for anything more than a constituency MP. And not particularly great for that.

This goes back to my theory about the left losing competent negotiators and leaders with the loss of the unions and replacing them with activists who just want to shout and hold placards.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,899
Oof


 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,900
shmmeee said:
He was great while no one took him seriously and there were no foreign policy issues. Once people started challenging him he falls apart.

He’s spends all his time around people who agree with everything he says and has real trouble once he’s outside that bubble. That’s a deal breaker for anything more than a constituency MP. And not particularly great for that.

This goes back to my theory about the left losing competent negotiators and leaders with the loss of the unions and replacing them with activists who just want to shout and hold placards.
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To be honest unions are mostly those now too. Though anyone who ‘does’ anything does get pushed up the chain quickly
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,901
Brighton Sky Blue said:
To be honest unions are mostly those now too. Though anyone who ‘does’ anything does get pushed up the chain quickly
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Exactly. Why has the TUC got a view on Gaza or whatever? Like i get it. Solidarity and everything. But I just wish the left was a bit better at keeping its eyes on the prize and playing its own area instead of insisting on everyone getting involved in every cause. It causes constant purity spirals and endless gotchas. And builds this bunker mentality where it’s hard to reach across the aisle at all or take a moderate position for expedient reasons in your particular circumstances.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,902
shmmeee said:
Exactly. Why has the TUC got a view on Gaza or whatever? Like i get it. Solidarity and everything. But I just wish the left was a bit better at keeping its eyes on the prize and playing its own area instead of insisting on everyone getting involved in every cause. It causes constant purity spirals and endless gotchas. And builds this bunker mentality where it’s hard to reach across the aisle at all or take a moderate position for expedient reasons in your particular circumstances.
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It's because the party that once represented the needs of the working class hasn't done so to any great extent for many years and barely even pretends to these days.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,903
shmmeee said:
Exactly. Why has the TUC got a view on Gaza or whatever? Like i get it. Solidarity and everything. But I just wish the left was a bit better at keeping its eyes on the prize and playing its own area instead of insisting on everyone getting involved in every cause. It causes constant purity spirals and endless gotchas. And builds this bunker mentality where it’s hard to reach across the aisle at all or take a moderate position for expedient reasons in your particular circumstances.
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I got cold looks at union meetings if I opposed the use of union funds, ie members’ subs, to send delegations to Gaza, Calais etc.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,904
Thank God the wage price spiral was avoided


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wingy

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,905
Is it a devaluation in other terms?
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,906
The lag on mortgages still pervades.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,907
fernandopartridge said:
Thank God the wage price spiral was avoided


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To be fair the wage price spiral is usually a second phase of inflation. Hopefully won’t happen although wages increases are likely to keep prices at this higher level ie materials and energy costs might drop but increases in wages will now be baked in

By all accounts we’re currently running at real terms wage increases for the first time in ages. About time. One benefit of a tight labour market
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,908
fernandopartridge said:
It's because the party that once represented the needs of the working class hasn't done so to any great extent for many years and barely even pretends to these days.

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Working class posties massively affected by whether the uk calls for a ceasefire are they?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,909
shmmeee said:
Working class posties massively affected by whether the uk calls for a ceasefire are they?
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They are as much as any other person, sneer.

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shmmeee

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,910
fernandopartridge said:
They are as much as any other person, sneer.

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How exactly does it help them get a better deal from their employer? Not all left wing institutions are interchangeable.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,911
shmmeee said:
How exactly does it help them get a better deal from their employer? Not all left wing institutions are interchangeable.
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You been hacked mate
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,912
wingy said:
You been hacked mate
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he's right

FP has jumped the shark and is now just a parody account.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,913
State of this, seriously

 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,914
Brighton Sky Blue said:
State of this, seriously

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Wanker
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,915
The op knew what he was doing as he got out town!
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 16, 2023
  • #31,916
shmmeee said:
How exactly does it help them get a better deal from their employer? Not all left wing institutions are interchangeable.
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The TUC isn't a trade union in itself, there is no employer with whom it has a relationship. The Labour party derived from a motion at Congress. I get your point to an extent tbh but I also get why nominally left wing organisations might leave their lane at times.

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shmmeee

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  • Nov 17, 2023
  • #31,917


Tories continue to be physically incapable of understanding poverty or joblessness.
 
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stupot07

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  • Nov 17, 2023
  • #31,918
How can he blame Labour if the lord's dont vote it through? The whole or labour could vote against he and could get it through. Just bonkers.



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stupot07

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  • Nov 17, 2023
  • #31,919
Good old Tories want to scrap inheritance tax and lower the rise of benefits, which would hit 9 million people and cost single mothers £218 a year.

Jeremy Hunt weighing up inheritance tax cut in autumn statement

Chancellor considering move after fall in inflation and being told he will have more money to spend
www.theguardian.com


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David O'Day

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  • Nov 17, 2023
  • #31,920
the stop prescriptions if you don't take an unsuitable job is just monster like behaviour

pure evil
 
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