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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,676
Deleted member 5849 said:
Next leader of the Tory Party*
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If they want to be out of office for another 5 years
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,677
CCFCSteve said:
If they want to be out of office for another 5 years
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I honestly don't know how the nutter ideas fly if in opposition - hopefully not enough(!) but if things aren't all sunlit uplands with Starmer (and it's unlikely world conditions will allow for that) then who knows?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,678
Deleted member 5849 said:
I honestly don't know how the nutter ideas fly if in opposition - hopefully not enough(!) but if things aren't all sunlit uplands with Starmer (and it's unlikely world conditions will allow for that) then who knows?
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Fair point. If it’s tough times economically anything can happen. Gut feel is we’ll hopefully be through the worst of it (in terms of inflation, small recession maybe) by the time of next election or shortly after
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,679
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,680
SkyBlueMatt said:
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One flick of a witches tit
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #31,681

You would think that she’ll be out on her ear after this gag alone.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #31,682
skybluetony176 said:

You would think that she’ll be out on her ear after this gag alone.
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Westminster couldn’t care less about the north of Ireland, it’s about time the Unionists accepted it.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #31,683
Sick Boy said:
Westminster couldn’t care less about the north of Ireland, it’s about time the Unionists accepted it.
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They've not accepted dinosaurs yet mate
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #31,684
clint van damme said:
They've not accepted dinosaurs yet mate
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but do make cracking apple and mars bar sandwiches
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2023
  • #31,685
skybluetony176 said:

You would think that she’ll be out on her ear after this gag alone.
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She'll keep upping it until Sunak is left with no choice and that happens. That's her gameplan. Get sacked and make a leadership challenge. It's why she resigned from the last government.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,686
SBT said:
Unless there is some large outbreak of violence instigated by the pro-Palestinian marchers she can use to justify her rhetoric of “hate” then the events of the day are going to reflect terribly on her and she might not make it to the Rwanda decision on Wednesday - she must be keeping her fingers crossed.
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Narrator: She did not make it
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,687
so she is sacked and David Cameron returns - lol lets get Boris back as well
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,688
Such a lack of talent that he has to bring back David Cameron, who has openly criticised him recently. And Cleverly, Liz Truss' loyal supporter, as Home Secretary!
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,689
Bringing in David Cameron to shore up the government’s credibility is just incredible stuff. Was Sunak offering around a cabinet job at the Cenotaph yesterday?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,690
Might be a sensible move….getting rid of Bravermann is at least. If Sunaks trying to show he wants to bring the party back towards the centre then interesting. Too little too late though. Said to my mate and maybe on here, his chance was a big clear out of certain individuals when he became PM
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,691
Grendel said:
so she is sacked and David Cameron returns - lol lets get Boris back as well
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Fuck it lets have a full cabinet of PMs. We’ve got enough.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,692
Any chance of Cameron returning as leader of the party within the next couple of years?
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,693
Sick Boy said:
Any chance of Cameron returning as leader of the party within the next couple of years?
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Who would his voting constituency be? And no members would elect him.
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,694
A joke of a party with the leader it deserves.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,695
shmmeee said:
Who would his voting constituency be? And no members would elect him.
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He would be a saner choice than any of the other potential candidates, which is probably what will rule him out!
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,696
Sick Boy said:
He would be a saner choice than any of the other potential candidates, which is probably what will rule him out!
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He’s probably a candidate for the worst Tory PM of the 20th and 21st centuries - his legacy was appalling.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,697
SBT said:
He’s probably a candidate for the worst Tory PM of the 20th and 21st centuries - his legacy was appalling.
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We've literally had Truss and Johnson in the last two years!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,698
Sick Boy said:
He would be a saner choice than any of the other potential candidates, which is probably what will rule him out!
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For you maybe. He’s the arch Remainer, also the architect of austerity, seen by a lot of Tories as the beginning of their downfall. It would be like getting Blair back for Labour. The voters who went Cameron last time were a mix of working class Labour supporters sick of immigration, and middle class types who wanted a stable economy and believed in the environment. And he still didn’t get a majority until the LDs fucked it and Labour had Milliband.

Plus he’d have to get elected really, which is easier said than done for a Tory right now, even in safe seats. Then he’d have to get a selectorate and PCP by and large devoid of all rationality post 2019 to elect him leader.

I reckon the Tories do what Labour did and go and retreat into the comfort of ideological purity and populism in opposition for a bit. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Farage or the like get pushed before someone like Cameron. Heavily depends what the party looks like post election though and which MPs are left.
 

SIR ERNIE

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,699
SBT said:
He’s probably a candidate for the worst Tory PM of the 20th and 21st centuries - his legacy was appalling.
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Blair Light
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,700
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
We've literally had Truss and Johnson in the last two years!
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Cameron's legacy is the worst of the lot, he was prime minister for 7 years and did untold damage with his side kick Gidiot.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,701
fernandopartridge said:
Cameron's legacy is the worst of the lot, he was prime minister for 7 years and did untold damage with his side kick Gidiot.
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Seeing Balls and Osbourne in the media having cuddly podcast chats is sickening, given the damage they inflicted through austerity.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,702
Cameron! Kin ell. Is he even an elected MP? I thought he stood down?
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,703
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
We've literally had Truss and Johnson in the last two years!
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Truss was clearly incompetent but her legacy footprint is tiny compared to her predecessors. Johnson is an awful human being and was the worst possible PM to have during a deadly pandemic, but I’m not convinced that, say, Theresa May would have done much better, and he does at least have obvious skills as a political communicator.

Cameron by contrast was a disaster on economic policy (austerity), social policy (riots), and foreign policy (Brexit, China, Syria) in ways that are still fucking us over today and will do for generations. On top of that he’s not even a good politician, managing to destroy his party’s reputation, his coalition partners’ reputation and his own reputation in the space of two terms. The guy’s idea for everything was to have a referendum on it, a PM without any sense of what it means to be a leader.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,704
SBT said:
He’s probably a candidate for the worst Tory PM of the 20th and 21st centuries - his legacy was appalling.
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What? Worse than Johnson and Truss…come on.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,705
Just for the record I’m not a Tory or fan of Cameron
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,706
fernandopartridge said:
Cameron's legacy is the worst of the lot, he was prime minister for 7 years and did untold damage with his side kick Gidiot.
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Fair points, the early 2010s are a bit of a haze.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,707
if bringing back the PM now famous for being ripped to shreads by Danny Dyer on TV then they are fucked
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,708
Sick Boy said:
Just for the record I’m not a Tory or fan of Cameron
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That’s what the all say. Danny loves him as well

 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,709
David O'Day said:
if bringing back the PM now famous for being ripped to shreads by Danny Dyer on TV then they are fucked
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Just saw this after posting
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #31,710
Peerage for Cameron to enable his appointment. I thought we’d had enough of unelected bureaucrats. Funny how the worm turns.
 
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