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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (24 Viewers)

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 3, 2023
  • #31,641
shmmeee said:
Clearly not. Hence the “encryption is terrorism” shite not so long ago.

A good sign for what GCHQ haven’t managed to crack is what the politicians use TBF.

But any govt minister should have strict infosec policies that should preclude this crap. There has to be a paper trail, surely?
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Imagine if HMRC came calling and you said you'd lost all your financial records....
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 3, 2023
  • #31,642
CCFCSteve said:
You’d hope there’s a full paper trail of all key decisions, however, wasnt it hancock who deleted some of his emails/what’s apps about certain contracts ? It’s totally unprofessional. In my old job where we had to file note any key decisions, strategy etc we’d have been slaughtered if the regulator came in and we said sorry, it’s on what’s app and I’ve deleted it.

Not sure why Sunak doesn’t want to deliver up his. Obviously there’s someone on the other end of each and every message which the inquiry will pick up so wondering if it’s non covid related ?!
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Could make a rule that anything not done through official channels and is now lost/deleted will be presumed to be dodgy and will be prosecuted as such.
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 3, 2023
  • #31,643
I remember when Grendel was telling me that this was the guy to listen to on Russia and Ukraine. Seems like they’d get on.

Conservative MP Bob Stewart guilty of racially aggravated public order offence

Bob Stewart told an activist to "go back to Bahrain" during a row outside the Foreign Office.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 3, 2023
  • #31,644
SBT said:
I remember when Grendel was telling me that this was the guy to listen to on Russia and Ukraine. Seems like they’d get on.

Conservative MP Bob Stewart guilty of racially aggravated public order offence

Bob Stewart told an activist to "go back to Bahrain" during a row outside the Foreign Office.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Strange thing to say
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 4, 2023
  • #31,645
Glad there's so little wrong in the country these days the government have got time to dream up stuff like this.

 
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PVA

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  • Nov 4, 2023
  • #31,646
She really is vile.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 4, 2023
  • #31,647
Can’t buy a house, can’t build a house, can’t live in a tent, can’t lay on a bench.

May as well just make Soylent green at this point otherwise what are we doing?
 
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Northants Sky Blue

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  • Nov 4, 2023
  • #31,648
She's genuinely unhinged...

 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 4, 2023
  • #31,649
Northants Sky Blue said:
She's genuinely unhinged...

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Love that account name, have always thought if I got a dachshund it'd be called Colin

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 4, 2023
  • #31,650
Northants Sky Blue said:
She's genuinely unhinged...

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If it's up there I'll give you the money myself.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #31,651
I wonder if the is referring to Crispin Blunt or if these are fresh allegations against a different MP

Tory Party covered up for 'serial rapist' MP, top official claims

EXCLUSIVE: Jake Berry (pictured) sent a bombshell letter to police in which he revealed that a number of allegations about the MP had been made known - but limited action had been taken.
www.dailymail.co.uk
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 5, 2023
  • #31,652
skybluetony176 said:
I wonder if the is referring to Crispin Blunt or if these are fresh allegations against a different MP

Tory Party covered up for 'serial rapist' MP, top official claims

EXCLUSIVE: Jake Berry (pictured) sent a bombshell letter to police in which he revealed that a number of allegations about the MP had been made known - but limited action had been taken.
www.dailymail.co.uk
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Not a good look the party paying money to one of the victims
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 7, 2023
  • #31,653
I've only seen this guardian analysis of it but what Starmer says here sounds OK:

Keir Starmer dismisses king’s speech as ‘exercise in economic miserabilism’ – as it happened

Labour party leader criticises speech as ‘admission that government has no faith in Britain’s ability to avert decline’
www.theguardian.com
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 7, 2023
  • #31,654
You can say what you want about the kings speech today but when you are having to include bills about banning rickshaws from central London to fluff out your king speech you really have nothing left to give
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 7, 2023
  • #31,655
David O'Day said:
You can say what you want about the kings speech today but when you are having to include bills about banning rickshaws from central London to fluff out your king speech you really have nothing left to give
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Totally out of ideas. I’ve always been sympathetic to Sunak as he was dealt a turd hand from Johnson and Truss but he needs to come up with better than that. Also keeping all the old boys/girls in the cabinet rather than just using it as an opportunity to get a load of new blood in and clear the shit out* he’s not helped himself.

*this maybe also helped with his argument that he could be considered as the change candidate
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 7, 2023
  • #31,656
CCFCSteve said:
Totally out of ideas. I’ve always been sympathetic to Sunak as he was dealt a turd hand from Johnson and Truss but he needs to come up with better than that. Also keeping all the old boys/girls in the cabinet rather than just using it as an opportunity to get a load of new blood in and clear the shit out* he’s not helped himself.

*this maybe also helped with his argument that he could be considered as the change candidate
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He’s over a barrel. No support really in the wider PCP, got in on a technicality in effect and by trying to keep the right inside has ruined he rep as a steady pair of hands. I’m not even sure who he is targeting. Brexit ultras think he stabbed boris in the back and has fucked Brexit, old school Tories don’t like his handling of the economy and general nastiness. He’s basically there as a political bullet sponge until they’re forced to have an election.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 7, 2023
  • #31,657
Just watched Starmers speech in parliament today and although I’ve been critical of late of him I’ve got to hand it to him, he sounded like a PM in waiting today. In stark contrast watching Sunak listening to it he had the air of someone who’s already contemplating what his next job will be. The Tory benches as a whole was very muted for the most part, it’s was like they were at a funeral.
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 7, 2023
  • #31,658
didn't realise they'd delayed their "flagship" crime bill as they were too busy fighting over the the home secretary trying on purpose to get herself sacked
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 7, 2023
  • #31,659
If anyone hasn’t seen the Sky News baroness Warsi interview yet it’s well worth a watch.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 7, 2023
  • #31,660

the tory front all have the same look of pain on their faces that i had when we let the 3rd in on saturday
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 8, 2023
  • #31,661
CANCEL CULTURE! WITCH HUNT! Etc. etc

Carol Vorderman leaves BBC radio show over anti-government social media posts

Carol Vorderman broke BBC guidelines with vocal attacks against the government on social media.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,662
Mosques of Preston have entered the chat



Meanwhile…


Labour left really gonna kick out Starmer and end up with PM Reeves.

(Obviously not cos lol, but if they did!)
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,663
Braverman could be toast by the end of the day


 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,664
PVA said:
Braverman could be toast by the end of the day


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That's what she wants, though.

Got to hope she's too mad for a sane majority!
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,665
Deleted member 5849 said:
That's what she wants, though.

Got to hope she's too mad for a sane majority!
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Yes, another Truss where in a year's time the cretinous media will speculate on whether she was right

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Deleted member 9744

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,666
Deleted member 5849 said:
That's what she wants, though.

Got to hope she's too mad for a sane majority!
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Absolutely what she wanted. Appalling that she has stirred up hatred and potential for disorder for the sake of her political ambitions.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,667
Deleted member 9744 said:
Absolutely what she wanted. Appalling that she has stirred up hatred and potential for disorder for the sake of her political ambitions.
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I dunno, that might be unfair, she may actually be this thick and nasty.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,668
it was probably upsetting the orange order that'll do for her
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,669
shmmeee said:
I dunno, that might be unfair, she may actually be this thick and nasty.
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Agreed
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,670
fernandopartridge said:
Yes, another Truss where in a year's time the cretinous media will speculate on whether she was right

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The main problem is it's easier for mental ideas to gain credence in opposition, when you don;t actually have to try them out!
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,671
PVA said:
Braverman could be toast by the end of the day


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Total loose canon. Sunak should never have appointed her in the first place and had sufficient justifications after her previous misdemeanours. Said before and I’ll say it again but his best chance would’ve been a full clearout and start again with new blood especially if he’s going for candidate of change

By trying to placate the right of the party he’s blown it. Should’ve said you either support me or you’re out, like Starmers did to some extent
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,672
CCFCSteve said:
By trying to placate the right of the party he’s blown it.
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Yeah, I suspect public opinion of Sunak at the beginning was boring but competent... and that gave him a fighting chance after Johnson and Truss!

All this witchhunting nonsense though, it doesn't sit well.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,673
shmmeee said:
Mosques of Preston have entered the chat

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I mean, WTF ?! A group of mosques calling for the removal of a democratically elected* party leader ?! And how will the removal of the opposition leader ensure they get an ‘immediate and unconditional ceasefire’ ?!

This just gets more bizarre by the day

*well, democratically ish by members and unions
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 9, 2023
  • #31,674
Deleted member 5849 said:
Yeah, I suspect public opinion of Sunak at the beginning was boring but competent... and that gave him a fighting chance after Johnson and Truss!

All this witchhunting nonsense though, it doesn't sit well.
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She’s a dangerous nutter. I don’t think it’s probably him deep down but he decided to dance with the devil
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 9, 2023
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CCFCSteve said:
She’s a dangerous nutter.
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Next leader of the Tory Party*
 
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