Starmer doesn't have to "whelm" anyone. The public just thinks that the Tories have reached the end of their shelf life and it's time for a change. That's the worst position a government can be in as there's not much people can do to change it.I am surprised they've won both. Underwhelmed by Starmer but nevertheless good that two Tories are out.
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I've not said people have to be whelmed by him, I've said I am not.Starmer doesn't have to "whelm" anyone. The public just thinks that the Tories have reached the end of their shelf life and it's time for a change. That's the worst position a government can be in as there's not much people can do to change it.
I was stating your overall whelmed factor is not a factor anymoreI've not said people have to be whelmed by him, I've said I am not.
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if they insist on holding on until late 2024 for the GE May's elections could be a bloodbath
Latest thinking is Jan ‘25
They will take the opportunity to pillage what they can, not sure there is likely to even be a big fight over it. Every man for himself.If so, that's a scandal...
I wonder if the best chance of getting there earlier is some kind of giant catfight in the Tories as their impending doom becomes obvious.
They will take the opportunity to pillage what they can, not sure there is likely to even be a big fight over it. Every man for himself.
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If so, that's a scandal...
I wonder if the best chance of getting there earlier is some kind of giant catfight in the Tories as their impending doom becomes obvious.
Yep, that's probably the depressing truth. There's always the vague hope that one of the multiple lunatic fringes blows up and supports a vote of no confidence I suppose.
It might be easier if the lazy bastards were obliged to turn up and do some actual work for a change. They can just suck on the public tit whilst doing the square root of bugger all most of the time. Surely a true Tory would be outraged by this?!
I'd still be nervous without a message from Labour for that very reason. If things get a bit better, there's a risk that people will vote for the same, and Covid / Ukraine etc will work as excuses for blips, and they can point to 'improving' things.Thibking I read and probably agree with is:
- Inflation is due to be dropping so the longer they do that the better
- Jan is when there’s fewest boat crossings apparently
- NHS waiting lists are slightly better I think
Basically if you’re waiting you’re best waiting as long as possible as all the forecasts say that’s when the key messages will be best.
Plus they’re a load of common crooks who will want as long as possible to plunder and lay traps for Labour at the expense of the country.
It'll be the Truss comeback!Its fringes all the way down right now. I think the Uber nutters will wait for a defeat and try and get Farage in.
inflation has been dropping and it doesn't matterThibking I read and probably agree with is:
- Inflation is due to be dropping so the longer they do that the better
- Jan is when there’s fewest boat crossings apparently
- NHS waiting lists are slightly better I think
Basically if you’re waiting you’re best waiting as long as possible as all the forecasts say that’s when the key messages will be best.
Plus they’re a load of common crooks who will want as long as possible to plunder and lay traps for Labour at the expense of the country.
I hope you're right when it comes to it!As i said the public have just decided they really think it's time for a different government
Its fringes all the way down right now. I think the Uber nutters will wait for a defeat and try and get Farage in.
They wouldn't be that stupid, would they?
Can’t believe they’re looking to replace again
They wouldn't be that stupid, would they?
I suppose going down in pure flames with an absolute nutter is maybe a way to go!
NHS waiting lists are worse than they were earlier this yearThibking I read and probably agree with is:
- Inflation is due to be dropping so the longer they do that the better
- Jan is when there’s fewest boat crossings apparently
- NHS waiting lists are slightly better I think
Basically if you’re waiting you’re best waiting as long as possible as all the forecasts say that’s when the key messages will be best.
Plus they’re a load of common crooks who will want as long as possible to plunder and lay traps for Labour at the expense of the country.
NHS waiting lists are worse than they were earlier this year
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Found the article, argue with it direct
General election 2024: What happens when an election is called? | Institute for Government
The general election took place on Thursday 4 July 2024.www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk
Delivery of other key pledges: Sunak also promised to cut NHS waiting lists and pass legislation to stop small boats. He didn’t specify which waiting lists he would target but the high-profile elective waiting list is still growing and industrial action by doctors continues, slowing progress on reducing it. Projections suggest the NHS elective waiting list may not fall until June next year
But then is falling, so better to wait as it falls further.
Though if one of the blockers is industrial action by doctors wouldn't you want to address that issue
But then is falling, so better to wait as it falls further.
Rishi, time to go
Rishi Richie time to go
Continuing not to call a general election while also having no idea of how to improve the country is simple negligence.
I don't really want to find out, but how they'd go under Braverman would be objectively. Interesting. Would she carry enough along it didn't matter that half the country hated her?Who they gonna put in? Truss again? She’s a laughing stock. Mordaunt is too woke for the membership. Tugenhadt maybe? Or go full nutter and go for Braverman?
The actually childish view is to hold onto power despite having no interest in using it to help the country.It’s a childish view of politics - turkeys don’t vote for Christmas
The actually childish view is to hold onto power despite having no interest in using it to help the country.
Both he and Brown messed up not going earlier - one thing Johnson got right.every party clings on. The Callaghan administration cling on till losing a vote of no confidence and ironically would probably have defeated thatcher in 1978
and sunny Jim was a far more moral politician than any of todays
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