clint van damme
Well-Known Member
Bit unfair on Liz
Starmers the new Liz Truss - growth growth growth
Starmers the new Liz Truss - growth growth growth
We've had economic growth for most of the last 13 years apart from the COVID years. In the meantime people have become worse off. Why is it suddenly going to be the magical solution?I mean it’s the one thing Truss got right. I suspect the policy solutions will differ slightly though.
We've had economic growth for most of the last 13 years apart from the COVID years. In the meantime people have become worse off. Why is it suddenly going to be the magical solution?
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Fuck me!
I have to be honest I just when I see Michael Fabricant get disturbing images of him and Andy Street engaging in sexual activity - it’s genuinely traumatising
He’s the kind of parody act you’d see at the end of a Phoenix Nights episode.Lee Anderson obviously knows his political income is going to be gone very soon. He has a bit to go though before his Wheel Tapper and shunters social club act is perfected - the northern comedy act is a tough place to survive - he should have asked Michael if he keeps his wig on when his giving Andy a BJ - that’s the thing to get a laugh
Well, not really.I mean it’s the one thing Truss got right. I suspect the policy solutions will differ slightly though.
It'll be interesting to see how the vote goes for Unites motion of re-nationalisation.
I'm guessing it'll be the same as last time. The people want it. The Nowhere Man Starmer doesn't. Prick.
They're in very faint ink.Decent speech from Reeves so far. Hitting the right notes IMO. Starting to draw some clear lines.
They're in very faint ink.
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Yeah but what do you want? It was never going to be McDonnell 2.0. I think planning reform is the right focus, proper living wage (I’ll wait until I see the details), workers rights from day one, improved sick pay, no ZHC all good things.
Most importantly if I was politically neutral there’s an element of hope there that despite Sunak constantly saying that’s what he was doing, was distinctly lacking from Tory Conference last week.
I haven't seen the whole thing, just saw the stuff about how she'd borrow when public debt was falling overall. Seemed a weird and unnecessary condition. The planning stuff is good as is the day 1 rights.
I think you’ve got to accept that’s the economic model they’re going with to reduce attacks from the Tories. Blair came in promising no new spending as well IIRC. Sadly I think it may be a prerequisite to getting elected in the UK for now.
The problem is, for example, I heard Wes Streeting being interviewed yesterday and he was laying out what he planned to do, and it sounded fine, and at the end the interviewer said you won't be able to do that under the restraints imposed by Rachael Reeves and he just started mumbling and stuttering.
It's frustrating that the implication is that government spending doesn't benefit the economyWell that’s where the rubber meets the road. If she can’t get growth the whole thing falls apart but I think she’s going about it the right way so far.
It's frustrating that the implication is that government spending doesn't benefit the economy
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Well that shouldn't be the case. That just exacerbates problems.I think it’s more chicken and egg “well spend on stuff that will benefit the economy once we’ve got an economy that allows us to spend on stuff”
Well that shouldn't be the case. That just exacerbates problems.
Govt should almost be doing the opposite of the private sector - spending during a downturn to kickstart the economy and recouping a bit when times are good - in order to flatten the line. It's the closest you're ever going to get to ending boom and bust.
Everything with a positive cost benefit. Yes. Countries aren’t humans. The same economic rules don’t apply. The numbers you are talking about for a national infrastructure project that will last decades if not centuries are absolute peanuts and will only get more expensive thanks to inflation.
The positive cost benefit of HS2 is *exactly* where it all falls down. That's precisely where I came in.
Have you read the any of the dissenting opinions. This one is well researched and clearly stated, and from someone with access to the data and no axe to grind...
It's a little odd how you can support Reeves, the 'iron chancellor', who sounds like Maggie, acts like Maggie, and has shown herself entirely happy to go along with Tory austerity plans both now and in the future, whilst simultaneously demanding the taps stay open for HS2 no matter the cost.
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Review of High Speed 2 - Dissenting Report - About Tony Berkeley
The positive cost benefit of HS2 is *exactly* where it all falls down. That's precisely where I came in.
Have you read the any of the dissenting opinions. This one is well researched and clearly stated, and from someone with access to the data and no axe to grind...
It's a little odd how you can support Reeves, the 'iron chancellor', who sounds like Maggie, acts like Maggie, and has shown herself entirely happy to go along with Tory austerity plans both now and in the future, whilst simultaneously demanding the taps stay open for HS2 no matter the cost.
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Review of High Speed 2 - Dissenting Report - About Tony Berkeley
Byng was a weirdo who drank coffee in a hotel bar and his mate Labowitch I think had tomato juice - who has tomato juice?
Recovering alcoholics and you won’t convince me otherwise
The other point to make is that Berkeley's own fag packet budgeting is even more vulnerable to cost pressures than the HS2 budgetIve read it. It’s the same argument you’re making. Lots of conjecture, lots of “I don’t believe the experts” lots of studiously avoiding your opponents points.
Are you seriously saying we don’t need a high speed connection on modern tracks between our major cities? That’s the question you keep avoiding, not to mention capacity on existing lines.
And of course “Labour spending” still ends up being the story…
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