Basically we’re going to have to inhale an extra 5 years of petrol and diesel fumes in our lifetimes, clearly promoting the continuing fall in life expectancy while making sure we’re a bigger burden on the NHS in the process for everything from respiratory illnesses to cancer. He’s cancelled a load of conspiracy theories that don’t exist, hence their conspiracy theories. Turned off at that point.For those of us not in the room with you, what’s he saying?
Basically we’re going to have to inhale an extra 5 years of petrol and diesel fumes in our lifetimes, clearly promoting the continuing fall in life expectancy while making sure we’re a bigger burden on the NHS in the process for everything from respiratory illnesses to cancer. He’s cancelled a load of conspiracy theories that don’t exist, hence their conspiracy theories. Turned off at that point.
Basically we’re going to have to inhale an extra 5 years of petrol and diesel fumes in our lifetimes, clearly promoting the continuing fall in life expectancy while making sure we’re a bigger burden on the NHS in the process for everything from respiratory illnesses to cancer. He’s cancelled a load of conspiracy theories that don’t exist, hence their conspiracy theories. Turned off at that point.
it’s a gimmick Tony as most cycle plans are developed so far in advance - and the PHEV vehicles carry on till then anyway
What’s the EU plans? Are they aligned? If so surely it’s happening whatever we think.
Amazing! So the UK is aligning itself with EU policy by extending the deadline to 2035.Well ironically from what I see Boris Johnson sped up the move here and Europe and the Far East are 2035 - Japan definitely is - so it seems we are just falling back in line with the EU
Farage isn't having a good weekAmazing! So the UK is aligning itself with EU policy by extending the deadline to 2035.
Wonder how Farage (rhymes with garage) will spin this one?
Amazing! So the UK is aligning itself with EU policy by extending the deadline to 2035.
Wonder how Farage (rhymes with garage) will spin this one?
Investing in HS2 or fixing potholes according to Sunak.
I just can't.
Or the planet.Fixing potholes by keeping huge amounts of freight on the road. Genius.
I find once you realise that literally all policy from the govt from now until they finally give in to electoral gravity and go are just about pumping the base in the hopes of sticking around post GE and setting traps for Labour, it makes more sense. None of it is intended to be what’s best for the country.
It’s smart actually…. Give Starmer 2 possible policy options and he won’t know which one to backtrack on.Investing in HS2 or fixing potholes according to Sunak.
I just can't.
Or the planet.
It’s smart actually…. Give Starmer 2 possible policy options and he won’t know which one to backtrack on.
Oh yeah, potholes and bins / bin collections are all the type of relatively immaterial issues that get the home counties riled instead of collapsing public services and buildings, regressions in the average life expectancy, widespread povertyAnd it works. Clearly.
Anyone who thought Hs2 wasn't going to end up this way is living in cloud cuckoo land.
It's just typical of big infrastructure in this country, a fucking shambles.
If its going to go ahead we need to build the lot, all phases as originally planned.
The phasing was wrong though, it should have started in the north
The phasing was wrong though, it should have started in the north
Well as we know Starmer wants democracy by letting 16 year olds vote
The phasing was wrong though, it should have started in the north
That would have been better, but even better than that would have been to kill the fecking thing from the start.
The whole cost/benefit analysis used to justify HS2 was the biggest crock of shit ever. It was literally fictional.
I'm all for spending money on infrastructure to stimulate the economy and create jobs, but this was a rubbish project to blow it all on...
What's not to like about high-speed rail? The case simply hasn't been made | George Monbiot
George Monbiot: I wanted to be convinced of the benefits but the figures don't work – nor, for this little island, does a plan for perpetual growthwww.theguardian.com
What’s your plan for rail capacity?
My plan would start by not literally making up the numbers to justify a vast white elephant that sucked the the juice out of every other potential project, and I'd take it from there.
I assume from your response you disagree, so which bit of the article specifically do you dispute?
Firstly carbon costs, I think George was being very pessimistic as to whether we decarbonise the electricity supply. Also not really the point.
Secondly the disbelief in fairly standard practice for calculating economic benefits of infrastructure.
Thirdly “don’t people travel enough?” No George, they don’t.
It’s just standard anti-growth guff TBH. We have a shameful transport system compared to our peers that’s the long and the short of it. And it drives up house prices and costs in productivity.
So unless you or George has a magic second option for solving the capacity issues on our Victorian network I’ll stick with the one we’re halfway through.
Halfway is being a bit generous
It should if the intention was ever to build a HS2 to the north. But it was intended to connect BHX to London and increase London's air passenger capacity. Though if it doesn't go into central London it's farce. When they proposed it and it didn't connect up to St Pancras and access to European HSR, then I wondered what the point was.The phasing was wrong though, it should have started in the north
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