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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (19 Viewers)

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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 7, 2023
  • #31,011
shmmeee said:
If Blair had Things Can Only Get Better as a theme song, what would Starmer have?
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Road to Nowhere
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 7, 2023
  • #31,012
clint van damme said:
Something by Status Quo
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Roll Over Lay Down
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 11, 2023
  • #31,013
The party also received the backing of Sisu Capital, the former owner of Coventry City football club, which is controlled by Joy Seppala. It gave the party £25,000 over the last quarter.

Hotels tycoon who stopped donating to Tories gives party £10,000

Exclusive: Rocco Forte backs Wycombe MP and arch-Brexiter Steve Baker, having not donated since 2019
www.theguardian.com
 

Ian1779

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  • Sep 11, 2023
  • #31,014
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 11, 2023
  • #31,015
Who signs off on this stuff? I'm starting to wonder if the tories haven't managed to embed people into Starmers team, basic stuff seems to be so badly executed time and time again.
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 12, 2023
  • #31,016
chiefdave said:
Who signs off on this stuff? I'm starting to wonder if the tories haven't managed to embed people into Starmers team
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I don't think Starmer needs any help doing that!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 12, 2023
  • #31,017
An actual expert agreeing with the experts on here re: Starmers economic policy.


 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 12, 2023
  • #31,018
And they said, verily, letteth the sewage run through the streets

 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 12, 2023
  • #31,019
Deleted member 5849 said:
And they said, verily, letteth the sewage run through the streets

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Torn. On the one hand just been posting about how onerous planning and environmental concerns massive inflate the cost and time of building in this country. On the other this seems a funny place to start.

Have you got anything on why this is an issue specifically? Like what are the likely real world consequences?
 

rob9872

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  • Sep 12, 2023
  • #31,020
International break .... even the politics is pretty boring. Needs more scandal and outrage. Up your game Rishi!
 

Ian1779

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  • Sep 12, 2023
  • #31,021
rob9872 said:
International break .... even the politics is pretty boring. Needs more scandal and outrage. Up your game Rishi!
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Just get the useless muppet to stop people dumping shit in rivers to start with…
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 12, 2023
  • #31,022
clint van damme said:
An actual expert agreeing with the experts on here re: Starmers economic policy.


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The problem is that the trickle down economics espoused by Reeves and her honourable friend Sunak always measures the top of the funnel not the bottom.

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rob9872

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  • Sep 12, 2023
  • #31,023
Ian1779 said:
Just get the useless muppet to stop people dumping shit in rivers to start with…
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Not sure how he prevents that tbf, but what he should do is block the tax cuts for them that he introduced.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 12, 2023
  • #31,024
rob9872 said:
Not sure how he prevents that tbf, but what he should do is block the tax cuts for them that he introduced.
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They'll just pass it on - repossess their assets imho and put the executives in jail
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 12, 2023
  • #31,025
When you get your leader from Wish


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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 12, 2023
  • #31,026
Ian1779 said:
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The ‘I’ve just let one go but will play it cool’ face
 

Ian1779

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  • Sep 12, 2023
  • #31,027
fernandopartridge said:
When you get your leader from Wish


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I was thinking Temu….
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 12, 2023
  • #31,028
The real world impact of flogging all the council houses and leaving rent to the private market

https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2023-09-12/family-of-six-year-old-dying-of-childhood-dementia-faces-homelessness

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shmmeee

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  • Sep 12, 2023
  • #31,029
fernandopartridge said:
The real world impact of flogging all the council houses and leaving rent to the private market

https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2023-09-12/family-of-six-year-old-dying-of-childhood-dementia-faces-homelessness

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Tories won’t be happy until we’re a nation full of crowdfunders begging for rent and medical bills like the States.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 13, 2023
  • #31,030



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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 13, 2023
  • #31,031
fernandopartridge said:



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An interesting and sobering comment in reply to that post:

 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 13, 2023
  • #31,032
Trying to out tory the tories on state pensions as well.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 13, 2023
  • #31,033
clint van damme said:
Trying to out tory the tories on state pensions as well.
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Saw a stat earlier. 1 in 4 pensioners are millionaires.
 
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BodicoteSkyBlue

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  • Sep 13, 2023
  • #31,034
shmmeee said:
Saw a stat earlier. 1 in 4 pensioners are millionaires.
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Really?? Hope my dad is one of them!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 13, 2023
  • #31,035
shmmeee said:
Saw a stat earlier. 1 in 4 pensioners are millionaires.
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 13, 2023
  • #31,036
shmmeee said:
Saw a stat earlier. 1 in 4 pensioners are millionaires.
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I'd like to see their definition of a millionaire.
If you've got a 400k house and a 600k pension pot are you classed as a millionaire?
Because that's not exuberant.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 13, 2023
  • #31,037
clint van damme said:
I'd like to see their definition of a millionaire.
If you've got a 400k house and a 600k pension pot are you classed as a millionaire?
Because that's not exuberant.
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I dunno, I'dbe quite cheerful with that.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 13, 2023
  • #31,038
Deleted member 5849 said:
I dunno, I'dbe quite cheerful with that.
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So would I.
But by the time I retire I'll probably be happy to have a corrugated iron roof over my head and a weeks supply of squirrel meat.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 13, 2023
  • #31,039
clint van damme said:
I'd like to see their definition of a millionaire.
If you've got a 400k house and a 600k pension pot are you classed as a millionaire?
Because that's not exuberant.
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Yeah probably. And you are in fact a millionaire in that case if the house is paid off.

What to do with the cash poor and asset rich has long been a problem.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 13, 2023
  • #31,040
Deleted member 5849 said:
I dunno, I'dbe quite cheerful with that.
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Im 25 years from retirement and don’t look anything like getting close to that. Until my pensioner parents die and divvy up their assets of course. Which I’m hoping doesn’t happen in the next 25 years!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 13, 2023
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shmmeee said:
Im 25 years from retirement and don’t look anything like getting close to that. Until my pensioner parents die and divvy up their assets of course. Which I’m hoping doesn’t happen in the next 25 years!
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None of us exuberant at the thought of retirement then.

Am not entirely sure on a system that relies on the lottery of having solvent parents for offspring's welath, either.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 13, 2023
  • #31,042
Deleted member 5849 said:
None of us exuberant at the thought of retirement then.

Am not entirely sure on a system that relies on the lottery of having solvent parents for offspring's welath, either.
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Especially when you consider that it’s likely wealthier parents have fewer kids to distribute across so the wealth gap is only going to get more pronounced next generation.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 13, 2023
  • #31,043
shmmeee said:
Saw a stat earlier. 1 in 4 pensioners are millionaires.
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3 in 4 are not

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shmmeee

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  • Sep 13, 2023
  • #31,044
fernandopartridge said:
3 in 4 are not

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Just blew me away. It’s all housing wealth but still. I’ve started this fight before but generally speaking pensioners are a very well looked after demographic. Because they vote and every MP will be one one day.

If there’s money going I’d give it to families over pensioners every day TBH. Obviously talking general groups not targeted support.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 13, 2023
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shmmeee said:
Especially when you consider that it’s likely wealthier parents have fewer kids to distribute across so the wealth gap is only going to get more pronounced next generation.
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Yeah, basically my future is either comfortable or not dependent on whether my parents need nursing care. As a system of wealth creation, that's flawed... and they're not even particularly well off, just careful with money and with only one child. But they earned that, not me.

I haven't earned any of that, though! Likewise if they need nursing care, it's not my fault that others won't and will therefore pass on more to people who aren't me!
 
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