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Ian1779

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,871
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
People on Twitter were having a right go at Penny Mordaunt (as she seemed to be angling for the Defence job) as being hopelessly unqualified for the role. And then they do THIS???
At least knows what a military base looks like (and not just, while Transport Secretary, as a place to park lorries waiting to cross the Channel because your Brexit-busting freight provider doesn't actually have any ships).
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Probably a ‘Chris Grayling for Cabinet’ splinter group.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,872
clint van damme said:
Not that long ago people were touting her for PM because she carried a sword.
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Yeah, though probably not the same demographic trolling her today, in all honesty!!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,873
What a shitshow

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66461879
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,874
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What a shitshow

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66461879
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Don't worry about that, it means they can go do their national service a bit earlier than planned.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,875
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What a shitshow

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66461879
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Known about it since June. Imagine the reaction of the mail and their scummy ilk if kids were going to miss the start of term because of action by the teachers?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,876
clint van damme said:
Known about it since June. Imagine the reaction of the mail and their scummy ilk if kids were going to miss the start of term because of action by the teachers?
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They’ve known about it since 2018 when a school roof collapsed. Although in reality they knew about it before then. RAAC only ever had a design life of 30 years so successive governments should have been addressing this issue for decades. God knows why we were still using it on construction of public buildings into the 90’s.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,877
skybluetony176 said:
They’ve known about it since 2018 when a school roof collapsed. Although in reality they knew about it before then. RAAC only ever had a design life of 30 years so successive governments should have been addressing this issue for decades. God knows why we were still using it on construction of public buildings into the 90’s.
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Because they couldn't use asbestos materials after 1984??
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,878
"Don't worry"... I was taking the piss. Tories never fail to Impress.

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JAM See

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,879
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What a shitshow

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66461879
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Some of the very establishments on which our great nation is founded on are literally falling apart.

But some people on here won't vote Labour because...Starmer.

I fucking despair.
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,880
Line up for the school rebuilding VIP lane, no experience necessary
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,881
chiefdave said:
Line up for the school rebuilding VIP lane, no experience necessary
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Exactly. I'm already predicting in 4 years time there will be an investigation about wasted funds.

Their excuse will be that they had to action the upgrades quickly, forgetting the fact they've known about this for 4 years.

And people will accept it.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,882
JAM See said:
Some of the very establishments on which our great nation is founded on are literally falling apart.

But some people on here won't vote Labour because...Starmer.

I fucking despair.
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Looks like they waited as long as possible before there was a serious risk of collapse. These fuckers really need to call an election and just let someone else have a go, they stopped caring ages ago.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,883
SkyBlueMatt said:
Exactly. I'm already predicting in 4 years time there will be an investigation about wasted funds.

Their excuse will be that they had to action the upgrades quickly, forgetting the fact they've known about this for 4 years.

And people will accept it.

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Labour will win by a huge majority - I wouldn’t worry about it
 
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clint van damme

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,884
JAM See said:
Some of the very establishments on which our great nation is founded on are literally falling apart.

But some people on here won't vote Labour because...Starmer.

I fucking despair.
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Some people won't vote for austerity in any form.
 

clint van damme

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,885
chiefdave said:
Line up for the school rebuilding VIP lane, no experience necessary
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Michelle Mone already buying up as much lego mecano and duplo as she can lay her hands on
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,886
SkyBlueMatt said:
"Don't worry"... I was taking the piss. Tories never fail to Impress.View attachment 31697

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There are a few hospitals in a similar position, that's part of what prompted "the new hospitals programme"

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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,887
JAM See said:
Some of the very establishments on which our great nation is founded on are literally falling apart.

But some people on here won't vote Labour because...Starmer.

I fucking despair.
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I'm not sure whether cast iron fiscal rules are compatible with addressing all of the crumbling services and infrastructure to be honest

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JAM See

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,888
fernandopartridge said:
I'm not sure whether cast iron fiscal rules are compatible with addressing all of the crumbling services and infrastructure to be honest

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But. Are you going to vote?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,889
JAM See said:
But. Are you going to vote?
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Not for the Labour candidate based on what Starmer and his team keep saying, no

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JAM See

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #30,890
JAM See said:
But. Are you going to vote?
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fernandopartridge said:
Not for the Labour candidate based on what Starmer and his team keep saying, no

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Answer the question please.
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #30,891
Grendel said:
Labour will win by a huge majority - I wouldn’t worry about it
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I think it'll be closer than people think.

I hate the fact I have to vote for this version of Labour and Tory boy Starmer. I will though.

If they do win by a big margin I hope they know it's only because of the Tories failures.

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  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #30,892
Grendel said:
Labour will win by a huge majority - I wouldn’t worry about it
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The way our system works that's doubtful - but you know that!
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #30,893
JAM See said:
Answer the question please.
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Only if a candidate appears locally that I want to vote for

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dutchman

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  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #30,894
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Looks like they waited as long as possible before there was a serious risk of collapse. These fuckers really need to call an election and just let someone else have a go, they stopped caring ages ago.
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You're assuming someone other than the Tories would win.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 2, 2023
  • #30,895
Interesting article for those that didn’t see the news yesterday's that U.K. GDP had actually recovered pre pandemic levels by end of 2021. The swing/upward revision of about 1.7% (which is huge over a two year period)

The UK actually fared much better after COVID than first thought - here's why it matters

The Office for National Statistics has made some pretty dramatic upward revisions for 2020 and 2021 - and negativity among investors, households and businesses about lacklustre UK growth may have been misguided.
news.sky.com

Obviously unrelated to the shitshow in various other areas at the moment (school closures, record hospital waiting lists, strikes etc) and I still feel that both us and a lot of the west are in for tough times in the short term but always nice to see some slightly more positive news.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 2, 2023
  • #30,896
CCFCSteve said:
Interesting article for those that didn’t see the news yesterday's that U.K. GDP had actually recovered pre pandemic levels by end of 2021. The swing/upward revision of about 1.7% (which is huge over a two year period)

The UK actually fared much better after COVID than first thought - here's why it matters

The Office for National Statistics has made some pretty dramatic upward revisions for 2020 and 2021 - and negativity among investors, households and businesses about lacklustre UK growth may have been misguided.
news.sky.com

Obviously unrelated to the shitshow in various other areas at the moment (school closures, record hospital waiting lists, strikes etc) and I still feel that both us and a lot of the west are in for tough times in the short term but always nice to see some slightly more positive news.
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Gives you hope that a competent government might be able to turn things around. Maybe remove a fig leaf for Starmer to hide behind on policy as well.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 2, 2023
  • #30,897
Deleted member 5849 said:
The way our system works that's doubtful - but you know that!
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I think it will be a huge majority

Johnson’s majority was false really and mainly over the brexit argument - they’d even have won seats in Coventry if it wasn’t for the brexit vote split

Most of those seats will go back anyway

You’ve then got a party in government for a decade which never goes well and a backdrop of inflation and cost of living which brings governments down

Labour will benefit from the exposure of tbe SNP as a corrupt and incapable political party

It’s going to be a very dull election when Starmer - like Cameron - will essentially win by default
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 2, 2023
  • #30,898
Grendel said:
I think it will be a huge majority

Johnson’s majority was false really and mainly over the brexit argument - they’d even have won seats in Coventry if it wasn’t for the brexit vote split

Most of those seats will go back anyway

You’ve then got a party in government for a decade which never goes well and a backdrop of inflation and cost of living which brings governments down

Labour will benefit from the exposure of tbe SNP as a corrupt and incapable political party

It’s going to be a very dull election when Starmer - like Cameron - will essentially win by default
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Problem is that election was needed last year, never mind in another 15 months. The government now is just engaged in neglect of the country.
 
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  • Sep 2, 2023
  • #30,899
Grendel said:
Labour will benefit from the exposure of tbe SNP as a corrupt and incapable political party
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That bit I do agree with - main opportunity for Labour that although, ironically, to keep those seats going forward they need a few more lefty policies. Their decline in Scotland can probably date back to Blair really.

SNP implosion is also an opportunity for Lib Dems to start re-establishing themselves a bit too, as Scotland's traditionally Liberal more than any other area. They could certainly do with a wider pool from which to pick their leader!
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 2, 2023
  • #30,900
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Problem is that election was needed last year, never mind in another 15 months. The government now is just engaged in neglect of the country.
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Which is an entirely irrelevant point - governments always cling onto power - look at the Callaghan government of the 70’s

Also look at the behaviour of the Corbyn opposition when they refused to being Johnson’s minority government down as they knew they’d lose an election
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 2, 2023
  • #30,901
Grendel said:
I think it will be a huge majority

Johnson’s majority was false really and mainly over the brexit argument - they’d even have won seats in Coventry if it wasn’t for the brexit vote split

Most of those seats will go back anyway

You’ve then got a party in government for a decade which never goes well and a backdrop of inflation and cost of living which brings governments down

Labour will benefit from the exposure of tbe SNP as a corrupt and incapable political party

It’s going to be a very dull election when Starmer - like Cameron - will essentially win by default
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Agreed. I can’t see it being anything other than big unless there’s a dramatic economic turnaround between now and the election….or a monumental fuck up/implosion by Labour
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 2, 2023
  • #30,902
Grendel said:
Which is an entirely irrelevant point - governments always cling onto power - look at the Callaghan government of the 70’s

Also look at the behaviour of the Corbyn opposition when they refused to being Johnson’s minority government down as they knew they’d lose an election
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‘They always do it’ doesn’t mean they should. Gordon Brown could have carried on for another 2 years, mind you.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 2, 2023
  • #30,903
Brighton Sky Blue said:
‘They always do it’ doesn’t mean they should. Gordon Brown could have carried on for another 2 years, mind you.
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And should.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 2, 2023
  • #30,904
shmmeee said:
And should.
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Shows where having some principles leads you I suppose.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 2, 2023
  • #30,905
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Shows where having some principles leads you I suppose.
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Out the door in politics in my experience.
 
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