dutchman
Well-Known Member
They know where the votes will come from and it's not from the very vocal minority in this forum.
They know where the votes will come from and it's not from the very vocal minority in this forum.No opposition has ever had such an opportunity to propose and implement radical change, they're proposing moving the dial a notch, its pathetic.
Starmer and Reeves have put more energy and effort into selecting their outfits for Murdoch’s summer party than they have proposing solutions for the current cost of living crisis.Course they want to change things bloody hell
They know where the votes will come from and it's not from the very vocal minority in this forum.
I appreciate the point you're making but we're in unprecedented times, people are struggling, we've had over a decade of austerity, (which isn't an economic policy its a political ideology), we need a real alternative not just toning down this neo liberal bollocks a notch or two.
This country is absolutely broken, it’s a mess.
There is no doubt starmer/Labour need to start getting their case and policies across to the public better but their smashing Tories in the polls and are obviously focussing on ‘you can trust us not to fuck things up’ on economy etc to attract swing or wavering voters. Id imagine once in power people will probably see a slightly more* radical approach, maybe even some stuff around manifesto time. It’s pretty transparent what their plan is but it’s all that’s needed at the moment as inflation/rates mean sunaks got no chance,,so not sure why the upset
*as we saw with truss markets won’t allow major radical stuff, whatever side you’re on
You can be radical without being mental. Truss and Corbyn faced the same problem of uncapped borrowing with no revenue raising which spooked people. No one is saying we can’t tax and redistribute.
Yeah, tax and spend was orthodox until not so long ago. Hard to sell extra taxes to people as well mind you.You can be radical without being mental. Truss and Corbyn faced the same problem of uncapped borrowing with no revenue raising which spooked people. No one is saying we can’t tax and redistribute.
Yeah, my point is when you’re 20+ points up in polls, is there any need to. The key for me is who comes up with a credible short and long term growth/productivity plan. Without that we’re fucked and there’s no chance of anything more radical on the spending side….not sure either side have a solution though
Maybe it’s this one that really appeals….I'm not that bothered about the subject matter but the continual u-turns just make them look like they have no real idea of what their drivers are
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Another element to the story coming out.
Would anyone be surprised if it turned out that Boris was officially a Russian asset? He’s a duplicitous character at the best of times.
Best case scenario is he was too stupid to realise.I'd be surprised if it turned out he wasn't!
I'm not a big one for conspiracy theories, but I'm fairly confident that Russia was very keen to support anyone and anything that was behind Brexit.
Boris's trip to Italy, where he ditched his official security, was hugely suspicious and wildly inappropriate for any member of Government. If he'd been a Labour MP we'd never have heard the end of it. If it had been Corbyn the Daily Mail would have self-combusted!
Follows on nicely from the story this morning that we're all less likely to survive heart attacks and the like thanks to depriving the NHS of cash!More evidence of the pure destruction of austerity politics
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They were warning about this 3 years ago. Even more worrying was they were predicting it across the whole sector of medical research, not just cancer research, not just themselves as an individual charity.More evidence of the pure destruction of austerity politics
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He’ll be alright so long as he holds his nerve.Sunak is so shit
Bet the Tories are gagging for another leadership challenge
Announcing policies and then u-turning almost immediately? That sound exactly like a party in government!they aren't even u-turns on years old polices. they announce stuff then a few weeks later u-turn on it. its not exactly giving the impression of a party ready to lead the country
It's almost like all the policy thinkers have deserted the sinking Tory ship and blagged themselves positions with Labour.Maybe it’s this one that really appeals….
Would love to have a government that took health seriously, not just the NHS but the social determinants of health. This country really is a classic case study in how we don't sort the latter at everybody's overall cost.
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Might be part of a bigger play but potentially MHancock has grown a set of principles, currently giving evidence to the Covid enquiry. He’s finally admitted that the government didn’t know if care homes had the the right protection describing the situation as terrible. He’s apologised directly to the families present and said that the government was more concerned about having enough body bags and where were we going to bury them (let the bodies pile high said Boris lad). He seems to be treating the enquiry as a confession.
Or a chance to throw Johnson under the bus
Yeah, wouldn’t trust anything that snivelling shit says. He knows he fucked up, he’ll just try to apportion as much blame elsewhere as possible. He was well out his depth.
And he's the one who said they had put a protective ring around care homes.Yeah, wouldn’t trust anything that snivelling shit says. He knows he fucked up, he’ll just try to apportion as much blame elsewhere as possible. He was well out his depth.
Which one Johnson or Hancock?
And he's the one who said they had put a protective ring around care homes.
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