Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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But that means she thinks he lies to everybody else, including the voters, and yet she thinks he's the best choice to lead the country
But that means she thinks he lies to everybody else, including the voters, and yet she thinks he's the best choice to lead the countryAs someone else has put it today. Dorries thinks she’s the only person in the world that Boris doesn’t lie too. On that basis I don’t feel sorry for her at all.
I agree.What seems to be lost is that the word judgement is the problem. Whether it’s one word, an 8 page document or a report card.
HMI and OFSTED are not fit for purpose because they have long forgotten that they should be driving school improvement not just measuring it.
Why?I agree.
If schools are rated less than good, then that's a judgement on OFSTED as much as the school.
There are schools out there that simply can’t recruit adequately. There are lots of factors that impact this, leadership and management, funding, location for example.Why?
Because if they're the ones telling them they're bad it's also part of their job to tell them why and help them improve.Why?
Miles ahead in the polls allegedly yet still going further and further right
Only a mug would vote for this bunch
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Miles ahead in the polls allegedly yet still going further and further right
Only a mug would vote for this bunch
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We have to take what’s an offer and urge it to be betterNot voting at the next election is turning from a difficult choice to a very easy one.
We have to take what’s an offer and urge it to be better
Have you ever been involved
Fuck if your saying that the whole system is in dangerGot to be honest Pete, intellectually I’m fully on board. But my god it’s hard to say vote for them when they do stuff like this. Just economic madness quite frankly. They seem to think everyone wants to hear how little money they’ll spend when the country is broken in very basic ways that need fixing. No one out there who is sane is worried about debt and deficits right now.
We have to take what’s an offer and urge it to be better
Have you ever been involved
Fuck if your saying that the whole system is in danger
Decisions are taken by those in the room
Decisions are taken by those with the responsibility of being in the position of making those decisions
If socialist labour isn’t the answer for the country at large and the tories have abandoned all their desire to be respectful but wrong
What can we hope for?
You have a very short memory!. Rugby has been a safe seat for the Tories for as long as I can remember
If you give your vote to Starmer and his current offer then you are essentially saying that the shit he is offering is OK.Fuck if your saying that the whole system is in danger
Decisions are taken by those in the room
Decisions are taken by those with the responsibility of being in the position of making those decisions
If socialist labour isn’t the answer for the country at large and the tories have abandoned all their desire to be respectful but wrong
What can we hope for?
Would just mean more apathyIf you give your vote to Starmer and his current offer then you are essentially saying that the shit he is offering is OK.
Maybe the short term solution is that people simply withhold their vote, there will be enough in reality that will get him over the line and into power. If he was to get into to Downing St with less than 10m votes for example thats quite a damning indictment.
I don't think they'd care.If you give your vote to Starmer and his current offer then you are essentially saying that the shit he is offering is OK.
Maybe the short term solution is that people simply withhold their vote, there will be enough in reality that will get him over the line and into power. If he was to get into to Downing St with less than 10m votes for example thats quite a damning indictment.
I don't think they'd care.
They'd probably think "well, we won so we're doing the right thing." Doesn't matter if it's a tiny amount - it's a win. In their own heads they'd probably say that it was appealing to the right that won it for them.
And then there is the other option. Enough people are turned off and Tories sneak in as they can rely on their core voters to vote for them whatever. And then we've got fiver more years of their shit, and can you imagine what they'd be like if they were able to remain in power after all the shit of the last few years? They'd feel absolutely bulletproof.
As it stands I can see quite a gain for the LD's and Greens, as Scotland may well be turning away from the SNP given what's going on there and people not being enthused by Starmer and thinking that Labour will win it anyway.
The only problem I have with not voting is that ultimately it’s a de facto vote for the winner. Especially if you live in a marginal seat. If Labour, Lib Dem or Greens have the best chance of turning my constituency away from the Tories then that’s who I’m voting for. Rugby has been a safe seat for the Tories for as long as I can remember but with the current MP stepping down and things being what they are this is probably the GE where my vote might finally count under FPP. I’m not going to lose that opportunity.
It'd be a hell of a shock if the Tories got back in and would eclipse even the Kinnock debacle, but given the way things are going I'm preparing myself for any eventuality.The tories won’t get in. Even the reform party is tracking at 7% - I think anyone voting for the Lib Dems should be sectioned under the mental health act
Not sure I understand your point.Would just mean more apathy
Decisions are taken by those that engage
Change what you can or maybe can be bothered to accept what you can’t ??
Not sure I understand your point.
Choosing to withhold your vote is apathy, but voting through what you know is bullshit is engagement?
Not engaging is apathy. Is voting truly changing anything?Not sure I understand your point.
Choosing to withhold your vote is apathy, but voting through what you know is bullshit is engagement?
Not engaging is apathy. Is voting truly changing anything?
i mean fully engage with the local party with things that make a difference
It would embolden nationalists I reckonIt’s a bizarre argument. Basically the colour of the rosette determines your vote
If turnout was less than 50% it would send a huge message to the political establishment
Voting is the bare minimum of engagement for me. Happy if you want to spoil the paper but just not bothering yep absolutely isIf no one in the country voted would that be apathy?
It’s a bizarre argument. Basically the colour of the rosette determines your vote
If turnout was less than 50% it would send a huge message to the political establishment
I agree, but the result would still be valid. And therein lies the problem.It’s a bizarre argument. Basically the colour of the rosette determines your vote
If turnout was less than 50% it would send a huge message to the political establishment
To be truthful I tried that Pete, but my local CLP spent most of 2018 trying to claim that a peoples vote would put Labour back in Downing St.Not engaging is apathy. Is voting truly changing anything?
i mean fully engage with the local party with things that make a difference
I know I’ve tried that tooTo be truthful I tried that Pete, but my local CLP spent most of 2018 trying to claim that a peoples vote would put Labour back in Downing St.
Bad memory is the phrase you’re looking forYou have a very short memory!
To be truthful I tried that Pete, but my local CLP spent most of 2018 trying to claim that a peoples vote would put Labour back in Downing St.
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