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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 11, 2023
  • #29,331
chiefdave said:

Police release Nicola Sturgeon without charge

Ms Sturgeon says she is "innocent of any wrongdoing" after being released while more inquiries are carried out.
www.bbc.co.uk

Third person to be arrested and released without charge. Something starting to seem a bit off with this but not sure what
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Wonder why she’s not saying how outrageous it is that she’s been arrested
 

rob9872

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  • Jun 11, 2023
  • #29,332
Here's the moment it happened
 

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Grendel

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  • Jun 11, 2023
  • #29,333
rob9872 said:
Here's the moment it happened
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Was Emu there to witness it?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #29,334
Who wants unelected bureaucrats?

Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak trade barbs in row over honours list

Boris Johnson says Rishi Sunak is "talking rubbish", in a row over the former PM's nominations.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #29,335
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Thatcher is almost the complete opposite to Johnson. She did genuinely want to improve the country and worked hard to do so, but she absolutely believed in a completely insane way to do it.

Boris is a chancer after whatever he can get for himself for as little effort as possible and will say whatever he thinks people want to hear to get what he wants.
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Thatcher wanted to make some people richer, she's not different to Johnson in that
 

Sbarcher

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #29,336
Sky Blue Pete said:
Wonder why she’s not saying how outrageous it is that she’s been arrested
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When she was in charge, party members were immediatley suspended for less.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #29,337
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #29,338
Ian1779 said:
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What article is that from mate?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #29,339
Ian1779 said:
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Johnson was always atypical mind you. Beyond the Brexit nonsense there was a lot of commitment to spending money, it's partly why Corbyn's went a little too mental, as they had to veer from a 2017 offer that hit about the right note to one that seemed absurd, just to maintain a difference.

(For clarity, I'd quite like a 2017 style one again)
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #29,340
fernandopartridge said:
What article is that from mate?
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #29,341
loving the blue on blue violence
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #29,342
Who wants unelected bureaucrats?

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-06-12/who-is-charlotte-owen-the-youngest-ever-life-peer-named-by-boris-johnson
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 12, 2023
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #29,344
fernandopartridge said:
Thatcher wanted to make some people richer, she's not different to Johnson in that
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Yes, but she did (mistakenly) have a genuine belief in trickle down economics and that everyone would end up, to some degree, better off.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #29,345
skybluetony176 said:
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Is that what Michael Howard looks like now?
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #29,346
Deleted member 5849 said:
Who wants unelected bureaucrats?

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-06-12/who-is-charlotte-owen-the-youngest-ever-life-peer-named-by-boris-johnson
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Bet she’s his secret child….
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #29,347
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Yes, but she did (mistakenly) have a genuine belief in trickle down economics and that everyone would end up, to some degree, better off.
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Lol

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 13, 2023
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Who wants unelected bureaucrats?

 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,349
Deleted member 5849 said:
Who wants unelected bureaucrats?

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Funny how the Tories who have been attacking Starmer on his private education despite it being earned on a scholarship are now using it as a defence for Boris.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,350
Plus you’ve got to love Sir Micky Take. If only because the right has become such a parody of itself that they’ve quoted this parody of a right wing MP twitter account as fact.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,351
skybluetony176 said:
Funny how the Tories who have been attacking Starmer on his private education despite it being earned on a scholarship are now using it as a defence for Boris.
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It was a state school when he started there
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,352
You’ve got to feel sorry for Dorries she had been promised a nice easy well paying number and the nasty boys have taken away that chance.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,353
Terry Gibson's perm said:
You’ve got to feel sorry for Dorries she had been promised a nice easy well paying number and the nasty boys have taken away that chance.
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As someone else has put it today. Dorries thinks she’s the only person in the world that Boris doesn’t lie too. On that basis I don’t feel sorry for her at all.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,354
Deleted member 5849 said:
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Fair play to Morgan. Dorries is just deluded. There’s millions of people who have come from the same background and made a success of themselves yet don’t get any recognition for it….let alone someone who was going to get honoured for her loyalty to a dodgy PM who had to leave office in disgrace.

Also, who had a more privileged background Johnson or Sunak. Yes sunak went to Winchester but just sounds like his parents were just pretty well off, self made/hard working people..not the usual right of passage of the Eton boys*

*Obviously now he’s in a different stratosphere with his wife money
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,355
It’s worth reading the whole thread

 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,356
What we need are even more comprehensive inspection reports so parents can behave like consumers


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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,357
fernandopartridge said:
What we need are even more comprehensive inspection reports so parents can behave like consumers


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It’s not a bad shout if used well but you can see it won’t be
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,358
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s not a bad shout if used well but you can see it won’t be
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What's good about it?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,359
fernandopartridge said:
What's good about it?
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One word doesn’t say enough that more words might help make it clearer
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,360
Sky Blue Pete said:
One word doesn’t say enough that more words might help make it clearer
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Make what clearer?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,361
fernandopartridge said:
Make what clearer?
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How well a school is performing against an agreed metric or metrics
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,362
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s not a bad shout if used well but you can see it won’t be
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What seems to be lost is that the word judgement is the problem. Whether it’s one word, an 8 page document or a report card.

HMI and OFSTED are not fit for purpose because they have long forgotten that they should be driving school improvement not just measuring it.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,363
Ian1779 said:
What seems to be lost is that the word judgement is the problem. Whether it’s one word, an 8 page document or a report card.

HMI and OFSTED are not fit for purpose because they have long forgotten that they should be driving school improvement not just measuring it.
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Great clarification
Fundamentally I’d want to listen to the experts in the profession and not politically driven dogma
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,364
Poor old Nadine, looks like Boris has been bullshitting her as well (surprise)……

 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 13, 2023
  • #29,365
Sky Blue Pete said:
Great clarification
Fundamentally I’d want to listen to the experts in the profession and not politically driven dogma
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The problem is it’s all a game being played and there’s not much evidence of it being predictive of anything or of Ofsted materially changing anything.

Every single teacher wants to do better, every school wants it, have yearly safeguarding inspections and continual improvement support and publish behaviour and attainment info.
 
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