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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (23 Viewers)

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chiefdave

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  • May 8, 2023
  • #28,876
Another glorious day for the Met. In shocking news eyewitness reports don't match up with the Mets version of events with people saying the dogs were not acting aggressively

 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2023
  • #28,877
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2023
  • #28,878
"Just because the police have got a power doesn't mean they have to use it"

 
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Ian1779

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  • May 9, 2023
  • #28,879
The prick seems to think the issue is the Tory bill hasn’t ‘had time to bed in’
 

rondog1973

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2023
  • #28,880
fernandopartridge said:
"Just because the police have got a power doesn't mean they have to use it"

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Fuckin' Eunuch
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2023
  • #28,881
Grendel said:
But PVA as someone whose apparently gone to one of the top 10 universities in the UK - something very few - if any other forum member - can boast then surely we would expect far more gravitas

We are mere mortals that wait for your in depth political analysis

Why do you keep us waiting?
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I’ve been to two of them, what’s my prize?
 

Grendel

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  • May 9, 2023
  • #28,882
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’ve been to two of them, what’s my prize?
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An episode of Cum Dine With me with PVA and held @skybluetony176 place in Bedsit Land.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 9, 2023
  • #28,883
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’ve been to two of them, what’s my prize?
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Bendy Bully
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 9, 2023
  • #28,884
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’ve been to two of them, what’s my prize?
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Cambridge and Hull?
 
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Grendel

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  • May 9, 2023
  • #28,885
Deleted member 5849 said:
Bendy Bully
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Homophobic post
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 9, 2023
  • #28,886
Grendel said:
An episode of Cum Dine With me with PVA and held @skybluetony176 place in Bedsit Land.
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I can’t parse this sentence and I don’t think I want to
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 9, 2023
  • #28,887
fernandopartridge said:
Cambridge and Hull?
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One local and one in a land far far away
 

rob9872

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,888
Brighton Sky Blue said:
One local and one in a land far far away
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Warwick and St Andrews then I'd guess?

Fair play, you hide it well
 
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dutchman

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,889
"School of Hard Knocks"

"University of Life"
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,890
rob9872 said:
Warwick and St Andrews then I'd guess?

Fair play, you hide it well
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Good try but nope
 

TomRad85

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,891
fernandopartridge said:
Cambridge and Hull?
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Hopefully not Oxford. Complete dump apparently.

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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,892
John Major goes fully woke

 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,893
Deleted member 5849 said:
John Major goes fully woke

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He has a point. Prison’s are beyond full. The current backlog in court cases actually suits the government because if they caught up they’d be nowhere to put them. To put that in some sort of perspective at the end of last year the backlog for serious cases alone was 62,000. There aren’t 62,000 prison places available, current capacity is about 82,000. To put it in further perspective the government’s target to cut the backlog is by about 10,000 by 2025 leaving a backlog of 52000. By contrast they plan to expand prison places by just 4,000 in the same period in England and Wales which will actually give the UK the highest prison population ever if they reach their targets. That’s some legacy that the Tories will be leaving, the party of law and order my arse.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,894
skybluetony176 said:
He has a point. Prison’s are beyond full. The current backlog in court cases actually suits the government because if they caught up they’d be nowhere to put them. To put that in some sort of perspective at the end of last year the backlog for serious cases alone was 62,000. There aren’t 62,000 prison places available, current capacity is about 82,000. To put in further perspective the government’s target to cut the backlog is by about 10,000 by 2025 leaving a backlog of 52000. By contrast they plan to expand prison places by just 4,000 in the same period in England and Wales which will actually give the UK the highest prison population ever if they reach their targets. That’s some legacy that the Tories will be leaving, the party of law and order my arse.
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He’s absolutely right
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,895
Sky Blue Pete said:
He’s absolutely right
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There’s tons of prisoners that aren’t a danger to society, more likely to be a danger to themselves. Released with the correct care especially for addiction and mental health and the majority won’t reoffend. But there lies the next issue. Austerity made sure that those systems either aren’t in place anymore or are failing because they’re overloaded. So it suits the government to keep them in because it they do release them without that support they’ll either be recalled in which case there’s no point releasing them in the first place or if their license expires it won’t be long until they’re adding to the already massive backlog of court cases. We’re in such a mess.
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,896
Ian1779 said:
The prick seems to think the issue is the Tory bill hasn’t ‘had time to bed in’
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he'd be stupid to say he would get rid of it

if he did what you wanted he'd walk into a tory trap daily
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,897
skybluetony176 said:
He has a point. Prison’s are beyond full. The current backlog in court cases actually suits the government because if they caught up they’d be nowhere to put them. To put that in some sort of perspective at the end of last year the backlog for serious cases alone was 62,000. There aren’t 62,000 prison places available, current capacity is about 82,000. To put it in further perspective the government’s target to cut the backlog is by about 10,000 by 2025 leaving a backlog of 52000. By contrast they plan to expand prison places by just 4,000 in the same period in England and Wales which will actually give the UK the highest prison population ever if they reach their targets. That’s some legacy that the Tories will be leaving, the party of law and order my arse.
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Decriminalise certain drugs and related drug crimes and it would probably free half the places up
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,898
skybluetony176 said:
There’s tons of prisoners that aren’t a danger to society, more likely to be a danger to themselves. Released with the correct care especially for addiction and mental health and the majority won’t reoffend. But there lies the next issue. Austerity made sure that those systems either aren’t in place anymore or are failing because they’re overloaded. So it suits the government to keep them in because it they do release them without that support they’ll either be recalled in which case there’s no point releasing them in the first place or if their license expires it won’t be long until they’re adding to the already massive backlog of court cases. We’re in such a mess.
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Big C Conservatives can't see the nuance though.

They think criminals should be locked up. Regardless of whether they're a danger to society in general or the reason for them being a criminal, they should be in jail, even though evidence suggests that in many cases it's more likely to lead to people becoming entrenched in that cycle if they spend time in prison. Meanwhile, providing support etc. for those with mental health/addiction issues etc. is being a bleeding heart liberal and wasting taxpayers resources. Wouldn't surprise if quite a few felt that such problems didn't actually exist and it was jut snowflakes making excuses, and they should just buck their ideas up and sort themselves out.

Makes me both angry and sad that attitude prevents people getting help and actually makes things a lot, lot worse.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,899
CCFCSteve said:
Decriminalise certain drugs and related drug crimes and it would probably free half the places up
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Mental health too
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,900
CCFCSteve said:
Decriminalise certain drugs and related drug crimes and it would probably free half the places up
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It’s time to have a proper look at legalising cannabis. It’s been done in enough countries now to be able to take an educated view. License the growing and selling of it and get tax revenue, control which cannabis is being grown etc etc. Makes perfect sense to me, it’s no more dangerous than alcohol, in fact it’s significantly safer.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,901
For some more context on the backlog

 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,902
David O'Day said:
he'd be stupid to say he would get rid of it

if he did what you wanted he'd walk into a tory trap daily
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He voted against the bill a few months ago, what's changed?
 

shmmeee

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,903
Sky Blue Pete said:
Mental health too
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Saw a graph from the US showing basically an inverse relationship between declining mental institution numbers and increasing prison numbers. Even if they can’t go out a more psychology focused approach would be best for a lot of offenders. Costs though.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,904
shmmeee said:
Saw a graph from the US showing basically an inverse relationship between declining mental institution numbers and increasing prison numbers. Even if they can’t go out a more psychology focused approach would be best for a lot of offenders. Costs though.
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Less than £40k a year to lock them up
 

shmmeee

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,905
Sky Blue Pete said:
Less than £40k a year to lock them up
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Prison or mental institution?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,906
shmmeee said:
Prison or mental institution?
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Prison
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,907
Sky Blue Pete said:
Prison
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Sorry was meaning mental health provision
 

shmmeee

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,908
Sky Blue Pete said:
Sorry was meaning mental health provision
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Wonder what the cost of management in the community is
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,909
Sky Blue Pete said:
Sorry was meaning mental health provision
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Which just goes to show what a failure austerity is. A prison place is about £47k a year. We have people in prison because they were let down by mental health care. Every action has an opposite and equal reaction.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #28,910
Here’s a good article on the cost to the economy from mental health issues. Spoiler alert, around 75% of that cost is lost productivity of people dealing with mental health issues. The arguments for investing in mental health care are broad and multifaceted. It’s not just about the prison population. In fact it’s only a small part of the bigger issue.

Mental health problems cost UK economy at least £118 billion a year - new research

The cost of mental health problems is equivalent to around 5 per cent of the UK
www.lse.ac.uk
 
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