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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (34 Viewers)

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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,771
clint van damme said:
Pity they didn't crack down on sex offenders, murderers and racists in their own ranks with the same vigour.
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Or within the royal family for that matter
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,772
clint van damme said:
Imagine if I said I went to a country where they were spending 100 of millions on the coronation of a new head of state even though he was a billionaire and the working people of that country were suffering a cost of living crisis.

That he only became head of state because he was next in line to the previous one, his mother who was also a billionaire.

And anyone peacefully protesting was being rounded up and thrown in jail you'd assume I was talking about some tinpot African dictatorship.
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It’s more North Korea. Aren’t we meant to believe that the royal family can trace their bloodline back to God?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,773
skybluetony176 said:
It’s more North Korea. Aren’t we meant to believe that the royal family can trace their bloodline back to God?
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I've not heard that but it wouldn't surprise me.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,774
So funny how both left and right react the same way to defeat:
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,775
clint van damme said:
I've not heard that but it wouldn't surprise me.
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Yeah I believe that’s the point of royalty isn’t it?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,776
shmmeee said:
Yeah I believe that’s the point of royalty isn’t it?
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It's got a point?! I thought it was just a mechanism to preserve the aristocracy given the line of succession for the 'British' Royal family runs right the way through Europe, (and possibly beyond).
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,777
clint van damme said:
It's got a point?! I thought it was just a mechanism to preserve the aristocracy given the line of succession for the 'British' Royal family runs right the way through Europe, (and possibly beyond).
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Yeah but they need a “reason” beyond “I want it” they’re not my ex wife.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,778
This afternoon’s plans sorted

 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,779
clint van damme said:
Imagine if I said I went to a country where they were spending 100 of millions on the coronation of a new head of state even though he was a billionaire and the working people of that country were suffering a cost of living crisis.

That he only became head of state because he was next in line to the previous one, his mother who was also a billionaire.

And anyone peacefully protesting was being rounded up and thrown in jail you'd assume I was talking about some tinpot African dictatorship.
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Just reading that they wasn’t even protesting, they were getting their placards out of the car when they got arrested.
 

Mcbean

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,780
skybluetony176 said:
Just reading that they wasn’t even protesting, they were getting their placards out of the car when they got arrested.
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And the one with the megaphone said she would be singing the national
Anthem
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,781
skybluetony176 said:
Just reading that they wasn’t even protesting, they were getting their placards out of the car when they got arrested.
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Yeah, said in another post, they hadn't even started. MET have made up some charge. Shambles of a country.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,782
clint van damme said:
Yeah, said in another post, they hadn't even started. MET have made up some charge. Shambles of a country.
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The new laws allow them to do it if they ‘suspect’ that you might cause trouble anyway.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,783
clint van damme said:
Yeah, said in another post, they hadn't even started. MET have made up some charge. Shambles of a country.
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Going off what I'm seeing on twitter, so obv could be bollocks, but its being said that the police are refusing to tell them what they are being arrested for and also that this protest was a planned protest given the OK in advance by the met
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,784
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The new laws allow them to do it if they ‘suspect’ that you might cause trouble anyway.
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In which case there's reasonable grounds to jail the whole of the MET!
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,785
shmmeee said:
So funny how both left and right react the same way to defeat:
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Sorry but that's lazy bollocks and if you thought about it for a nanosecond you're intelligent enough to see it.

The moderate left with the kind of policies originally trumpeted and then hastily ditched by Starmer are nothing like the far right nutters wailing about boat people and wokery.

I find it a bit depressing that people in or supporting the Labour party are so quick to try to the hammer "the left" with this kind of fake equivalence.

It's what the party is supposed to be. An alternative to the Tories with actual plan to make the country a better, fairer place. Instead we've got Starmer who, like you, seems to worry more about getting rid of "the left" than he is to come up with any meaningful policies of his own.

All he's got, and all you can say about him, is he won't be as bad as at the Tories.

Maybe that's why there's more focus on "the left", it hides the complete, aching emptiness of the man and the party that he's trying to create.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,786
chiefdave said:
Going off what I'm seeing on twitter, so obv could be bollocks, but its being said that the police are refusing to tell them what they are being arrested for and also that this protest was a planned protest given the OK in advance by the met
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Guardian reported that
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,787
chiefdave said:
Going off what I'm seeing on twitter, so obv could be bollocks, but its being said that the police are refusing to tell them what they are being arrested for and also that this protest was a planned protest given the OK in advance by the met
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I was never a royalist but wasn't a republican. I just thought it was a load of bollocks that I had no interest in.
But between Andrews noncing, the queen's funeral and today I think I've been converted into a full on abolitionist!
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,788
duffer said:
Sorry but that's lazy bollocks and if you thought about it for a nanosecond you're intelligent enough to see it.

The moderate left with the kind of policies originally trumpeted and then hastily ditched by Starmer are nothing like the far right nutters wailing about boat people and wokery.

I find it a bit depressing that people in or supporting the Labour party are so quick to try to the hammer "the left" with this kind of fake equivalence.

It's what the party is supposed to be. An alternative to the Tories with actual plan to make the country a better, fairer place. Instead we've got Starmer who, like you, seems to worry more about getting rid of "the left" than he is to come up with any meaningful policies of his own.

All he's got, and all you can say about him, is he won't be as bad as at the Tories.

Maybe that's why there's more focus on "the left", it hides the complete, aching emptiness of the man and the party that he's trying to create.
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But that’s what the right of the Tories think too. People want free markets and low immigration and low taxes really. And Sunak is just Blue Labour.

I count myself pretty left economically compared to most in Labour, but what I saw post Corbyn and what I’ve seen post Johnson for the Tories feels the same. “I’m not out of touch, the electorate are wrong”
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,789
clint van damme said:
In which case there's reasonable grounds to jail the whole of the MET!
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Let’s start with self confessed coke addict Rishi
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,790
skybluetony176 said:
Just reading that they wasn’t even protesting, they were getting their placards out of the car when they got arrested.
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Shows how far we've progressed!
At one time they'd of been carted off to the tower to be tortured and hung.

Now they get detained for a few hours before being released with a kick up the bum.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,791
fatso said:
Shows how far we've progressed!
At one time they'd of been carted off to the tower to be tortured and hung.

Now they get detained for a few hours before being released with a kick up the bum.
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What have they done wrong?
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,792
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What have they done wrong?
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Fuck all. (Well, technically, preparing to cause a breach of the peace, and an obstruction, and "outraging public decency" are all potential offences I'd imagine, but I'm no expert on law and order)

But don't try and disrupt the establishment infront of the worlds press.
The same would happen in most countries, in America, any attempt to do anything similar would be stamped out with OTT force.
And we know how Russia and China would react.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,793
fatso said:
Fuck all. (Well, technically, preparing to cause a breach of the peace, and an obstruction, and "outraging public decency" are all potential offences I'd imagine, but I'm no expert on law and order)

But don't try and disrupt the establishment infront of the worlds press.
The same would happen in most countries, in America, any attempt to do anything similar would be stamped out with OTT force.
And we know how Russia and China would react.
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So you don't think k this will be covered by the world's press?
America didn't even really stamp out an insurgency with OTT force.
And China and Russia aren't really the benchmarks we should be measuring ourselves against surely?
 

chiefdave

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  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,794
fatso said:
And we know how Russia and China would react.
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Defiantly the models of democracy we want to be aspiring to
 
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SBT

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  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,795
fatso said:
But don't try and disrupt the establishment infront of the worlds press.
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Why not?
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,796
fatso said:
Fuck all. (Well, technically, preparing to cause a breach of the peace, and an obstruction, and "outraging public decency" are all potential offences I'd imagine, but I'm no expert on law and order)

But don't try and disrupt the establishment infront of the worlds press.
The same would happen in most countries, in America, any attempt to do anything similar would be stamped out with OTT force.
And we know how Russia and China would react.
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it's an authorised protest given prior permission by the met

so yes you are no expert

it seems the met have mistaken the straps used to help people hold placards for ties used to attach people to objects
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,797
David O'Day said:
it's an authorised protest given prior permission by the met

so yes you are no expert

it seems the met have mistaken the straps used to help people hold placards for ties used to attach people to objects
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Id imagine the met wouldn't come out and say they are banning peaceful protest as that really would stir up a hornets nest.
So they say they won't stop any protest, while knowing that's exactly what they will Do.

I'd of thought you'd of realised that.
Not exactly difficult to grasp.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,798
fatso said:
Fuck all. (Well, technically, preparing to cause a breach of the peace, and an obstruction, and "outraging public decency" are all potential offences I'd imagine, but I'm no expert on law and order)

But don't try and disrupt the establishment infront of the worlds press.
The same would happen in most countries, in America, any attempt to do anything similar would be stamped out with OTT force.
And we know how Russia and China would react.
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Arresting people for not doing anything wrong is fine because…why?
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,799
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Arresting people for not doing anything wrong is fine because…why?
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Because the fucking King said so!

The low life peasant scum should be horse whipped and put in irons.

On a slightly more serious note, if you run on a football pitch during a game and protest about something you'd also be arrested, but what harm has actually been done ?
You can only presume that peacefull protest will be tolerated only at certain times, and certain places.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,800
fatso said:
Because the fucking King said so!
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Did he? When?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,801
fatso said:
Id imagine the met wouldn't come out and say they are banning peaceful protest as that really would stir up a hornets nest.
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They weren’t far off saying that

 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,802
fatso said:
Id imagine the met wouldn't come out and say they are banning peaceful protest as that really would stir up a hornets nest.
So they say they won't stop any protest, while knowing that's exactly what they will Do.

I'd of thought you'd of realised that.
Not exactly difficult to grasp.
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wtf
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,803
Still maintain a hung parliament will be the most likely outcome.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,804
fatso said:
Id imagine the met wouldn't come out and say they are banning peaceful protest as that really would stir up a hornets nest.
So they say they won't stop any protest, while knowing that's exactly what they will Do.

I'd of thought you'd of realised that.
Not exactly difficult to grasp.
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Indeed, it’s not nearly as difficult as understanding the difference between “have” and “of”.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 6, 2023
  • #28,805
Sick Boy said:
Still maintain a hung parliament will be the most likely outcome.
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Was looking this morning, 6/4.
Lab/Lib coalition, 8/1.
Surely if its a hung parliament it will be a lab/lib coalition won't it?
@rob9872 you're the closest we've got to a gambling expert! What do you think?
 
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