Grendel
Well-Known Member
Its petty and mean spirited
Tbf if they lose the seat it makes no difference. Not like Corbyn has a reputation of voting with a Labour government anyway.
I’ll have a think and get back to youActually I don’t have to - the joy of the fact my vote is anonymous.
But seeing as we talking about it, tell me about why I should.
Is he supporting my profession as we try to secure a fair deal for pay and security for the future?
Is he providing any kind of meaningful platform that will see a step change in the future for my (our) children?
He has shown more vitriol to Corbyn and people sticking themselves to roads than he ever has to the Tories… tell me why that is?
It's not just that one seat, it's how the whole nonsense could affect people's voting intentions elsewhere.Tbf if they lose the seat it makes no difference. Not like Corbyn has a reputation of voting with a Labour government anyway.
absolutely awful pro russian edm
The Russian House Mafia doing a Ukraine tour
What's a bigger story on election night? A Labour candidate Corbyn, now like an old man yells out cloud meme, winning a seat he's held since 1983 or an independent Corbyn beating the Labour?Tbf if they lose the seat it makes no difference. Not like Corbyn has a reputation of voting with a Labour government anyway.
He had a higher percentage of votes in 2017 than Blair and Thatcher you dimwit
What's a bigger story on election night? A Labour candidate Corbyn, now like an old man yells out cloud meme, winning a seat he's held since 1983 or an independent Corbyn beating the Labour?
Why on earth Starmer would want attention on Corbyn and the possibility of losing a single seat on the night he wins the election is beyond me
Shhmmeee will be along soon to deny the existence of 2017.
Equally Corbyn winning a seat as a Labour candidate would also be insignificant. If he goes as an independent his vote count will get more publicity, if he wins it's a bloody nose for Starmer that he never needed to take a chance on.If Labour win a big majority as expected, then Corbyn winning a seat as independent would be a pretty insignificant story in the scheme of things.
You'd have Momentum making a big deal of it. I think everyone else would shrug their shoulders.
All Corbyn had to do was say that yep, they ballsed up in not being stronger and more decisive on antisemitism and it wouldn't be an issue now. The same as all he had to do was say yep, IRA were bastards, but his equivocation is not a good look is it. Even his allies acknowledge his words after the enquiry were poor.Its petty and mean spirited
No one won I think you’ll findCorbyn lost in 2017
No one won I think you’ll find
So imagine losing to him in the election.All Corbyn had to do was say that yep, they ballsed up in not being stronger and more decisive on antisemitism and it wouldn't be an issue now. The same as all he had to do was say yep, IRA were bastards, but his equivocation is not a good look is it. Even his allies acknowledge his words after the enquiry were poor.
And that's why he's a draining presence, which is a shame as he appears to be a decent MP.
Meh.So imagine losing to him in the election.
Dave Nellist hadn't led the party in the 2 previous elections.Meh.
But of an irrelevance. Dave Nellist v Jim Cunningham was a sideshow that nearly let the Tories, but it allowed Labour to show they were caring sharing lefties and not brutal shouty scary agitating lefties.
Getting strong ‘what colour is your Bugatti’ vibes here.And who was in No ones cabinet?
Nor has he been engulfed in an anti semitism row, been seen as sympathetic to the IRA, and generally looked a bit tawdry and peevish of late so yeah you're right, more important to make the break than it was with Nellist.Dave Nellist hadn't led the party in the 2 previous elections.
It’s a bit of a nonsense though isn’t it…Strong man posturing is the gambit from Starmer.
It's an easy win for any Labour doorknocker to answer the 'But Corbyn' brigade.
Any Tory knocks my door, I'll just say 'But Partygate, but Owen Paterson, but giving your wifebeating dad a fucking knighthood'.
The Tories need to purge a previous leader, I suspect Labour feel the same way.
I don't necessarily agree with Starmer, but I can see why he's going down that road.
He's a draining presence because his successor has utterly fuck all to say other than "I'm not Jeremy Corbyn" and his bunch of careerist mutant cabinet colleagues do not either. An utterly vacuous entity.All Corbyn had to do was say that yep, they ballsed up in not being stronger and more decisive on antisemitism and it wouldn't be an issue now. The same as all he had to do was say yep, IRA were bastards, but his equivocation is not a good look is it. Even his allies acknowledge his words after the enquiry were poor.
And that's why he's a draining presence, which is a shame as he appears to be a decent MP.
He's a draining presence because of his own inability to just say that yeah, they fucked up. The qualities or otherwise of the current leader are totally irrelevant to that but as it happens, one thing Starmer has done is stamp down on antisemitism rather than leave it to fester by equivocation.He's a draining presence because his successor has utterly fuck all to say other than "I'm not Jeremy Corbyn" and his bunch of careerist mutant cabinet colleagues do not either. An utterly vacuous entity.
Yet somehow in *doing* so he has expelled more Jewish members than any other leader, and created a situation where other forms of racism are deemed less important.He's a draining presence because of his own inability to just say that yeah, they fucked up. The qualities or otherwise of the current leader are totally irrelevant to that but as it happens, one thing Starmer has done is stamp down on antisemitism rather than leave it to fester by equivocation.
And yet the perception is he's stamped out antisemitism, whereas the perception is Corbyn is all for it!Yet somehow in *doing* so he has expelled more Jewish members than any other leader, and created a situation where other forms of racism are deemed less important.
What has Starmer done? Come on NW you are better than this.He's a draining presence because of his own inability to just say that yeah, they fucked up. The qualities or otherwise of the current leader are totally irrelevant to that but as it happens, one thing Starmer has done is stamp down on antisemitism rather than leave it to fester by equivocation.
Nor has he been engulfed in an anti semitism row, been seen as sympathetic to the IRA, and generally looked a bit tawdry and peevish of late so yeah you're right, more important to make the break than it was with Nellist.
What has Starmer done? Come on NW you are better than this.
Martin Forde said last week he's heard nothing from Labour since he wrote his report. 165 recommendations.
And he'll be an irrelevance on wherein night whether he wins, loses, or comes behind the raving loony.And really for most of the time since he stood down as leader he’s been an irrelevance. The only attention he keeps getting seems to be because Starmer keeps going on about him.
So just let it lie
You’ve clearly never read the report - just the Starmer approved 4 paragraph edit.I don't know why you use the Forde report as a stick to beat Starmer with when it's utterly scathing of Corbyn.
Was there an agreement that Starmer would contact Forde afterwards? He's done the report, Starmer has the report, I don't think he has any obligation to contact Forde again, it's up to him to act on it.
And he'll be an irrelevance on wherein night whether he wins, loses, or comes behind the raving loony.
But he won't be Labour's problem anymore.
You’ve clearly never read the report - just the Starmer approved 4 paragraph edit.
It'll not be that much, it'll be a tweet from a journalist based on a comment from a Labour source about what they thoughtYou’ve clearly never read the report - just the Starmer approved 4 paragraph edit.
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