Sky Blue Pete
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Quite compelling though
Quite compelling thoughWhen they are not as openly and unashamedly disingenuous as they are now and / or when they give me a reason to vote for them that isn't just that they are not the Tories.
Like BrexitThe labour party to be something I could actually in good faith vote for
You posting this here after you were pretty much ignored in the actual thread about the war?Vlad is on a Ukraine tour - where’s the arrest warrant
Ukraine war: Putin pays visit to occupied Mariupol, state media reports - BBC News
The Russian president toured the Ukrainian city devastated by Russian shelling, the Kremlin says.www.bbc.com
RMT members have accepted pay offer
Rail union RMT announced today that its 20,000 members have voted to accept a new and improved offer covering pay, jobs and conditions by a margin of three to one.
In a turnout of nearly 90 per cent members voted by 76 per cent to 24 per cent to accept the offer.
The RMT National Executive has announced that the vote means the end of the trade dispute with Network Rail.
The new offer which was also improved with the new money was made following the most recent strike action in January and the threat of more action.
Key features of the offer include:
• An uplift on salaries of between 14.4 per cent for the lowest paid grades to 9.2 per cent for the highest paid
• A total uplift on basic earnings between 15.2 per cent for the lowest paid grades to 10.3 per cent for the highest paid grades. This represents an additional 1.1 per cent over the duration of the deal
• Increased backpay
• Renewing of the no compulsory redundancy agreement until January 2025
• Network Rail withdrawing their previous insistence the offer was conditional on RMT accepting the company ‘modernising maintenance’ agenda, which the union will continue to scrutinise and challenge including on safety
• Discounted rail travel benefits
RMT general secretary Mick Lynch said that when the union first declared the dispute with Network Rail a year ago in the Spring of 2022, RMT was told that Network Rail workers would only get two per cent to three per cent.
“However, since then strike action and the inspiring solidarity and determination of members has secured new money and a new offer which has been clearly accepted by our members and that dispute is now over.
Not sure this surprises anyone.
"Oor Bredeshness is onder threeat!"Not a surprise but disappointing. Let’s see what reasons they come up with
The Brexit jargon everyone started making up pissed me off almost as much as the event itself. 'Stormont brake'?Not sure this surprises anyone.
Say what you like about his tactics. Mick Lynch is very effective at his job:
There you go. Striking works.
It’s not actually a 15% pay rise is it?
We seemed to have put the stupidest person ever in No. 10. For weeks he appeared on TV in the evening telling us what his rules were and why we shouldn’t break them. Are we truly to believe that he didn’t understand his own rules? The alternative is we’re expected to believe he doesn’t know what a party is. Stupidest PM ever… checks notes, says see Liz Truss."Mr Johnson insisted he was not warned that gatherings in Downing Street during the pandemic broke lockdown rules."
What a c**t.
Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t they initially looking for 7%? Pre Trussonomics and inflation spiralling? Then as the industrial action continued their demands went up as they were looking for a pay rise in line with inflation? So basically had they given them 7% in the first place we wouldn’t have had 8 months of industrial action, 8 months of the government compensating the rail franchises and a settlement that would have cost the rail franchises less than it is now? Maybe I’m remembering it wrong but if I’m correct then the workers and the unions have played a blinder by sticking it out. Especially if inflation is 2.5% by the end of the year or whatever it was that Hunt was saying in the budget.Far better terms than they’d have without a union
Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t they initially looking for 7%? Pre Trussonomics and inflation spiralling? Then as the industrial action continued their demands went up as they were looking for a pay rise in line with inflation? So basically had they given them 7% in the first place we wouldn’t have had 8 months of industrial action, 8 months of the government compensating the rail franchises and a settlement that would have cost the rail franchises less than it is now? Maybe I’m remembering it wrong but if I’m correct then the workers and the unions have played a blinder by sticking it out. Especially if inflation is 2.5% by the end of the year or whatever it was that Hunt was saying in the budget.
Views on this? School refuses access to Ofsted:
All for it personally.
I do remember that too.You might remember one minister saying that it would have actually cost them less to just settle with the union instead of prolonging the dispute. But they chose to carry on in order to stop other unions from being ‘inspired’ by it.
It didn’t do that and has just cost so much extra money instead.
@Grendel laughs but really it’s empirically true that unionised workforces get better conditions than analogous non-unionised workforces. Especially in the US but likewise here.
The NHS workers gained what? 1% more having asked for 15% more? What I’m laughing at is how the rail unions are now spinning the narrative the government previously were
What narrative? They are better off than they were before the union intervened.
The NHS workers gained what? 1% more having asked for 15% more? What I’m laughing at is how the rail unions are now spinning the narrative the government previously were
Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world.The NHS workers gained what? 1% more having asked for 15% more? What I’m laughing at is how the rail unions are now spinning the narrative the government previously were
It’s a 5% pay rise isn’t it?
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