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Ian1779

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  • Mar 15, 2023
  • #27,616
rob9872 said:
Any strikes planned for the holidays? You can picket any time, but to date they've only chosen school days.
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Not sure you’ve grasped the concept of a strike there….
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 15, 2023
  • #27,617
Bloody foreigners, coming over here stopping us entering a recession.

 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 15, 2023
  • #27,618
The budget seems that bad that the usual suspects aren't spamming my socials telling me how great it is
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 15, 2023
  • #27,619
state of the desperation on show here

 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 15, 2023
  • #27,620
David O'Day said:
The budget seems that bad that the usual suspects aren't spamming my socials telling me how great it is
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Its saving grace seems to be that Kwasi crashed the economy before hand. Still low growth predicted, still predicted to be lower than Russia’s for comparison, living standards still falling and the economy still dependent on immigration.

Good article on the reality here

All the Bad News Buried in Jeremy Hunt’s Budget

All the Bad News in Jeremy Hunt's Budget - Tax hikes, slow growth, Brexit damage, OBR forecast, living standards collapse
bylinetimes.com
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 15, 2023
  • #27,621
Good policy that I agree with is the free childcare. Pretty annoying that as my daughter turns 3 and becomes eligible for the 30 hours anyway under current rules, that I have paid nursery fees across two children for the last 4 years at say roughly £32k
 
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Macca1987

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2023
  • #27,622
Similar, my daughter has been struggling with childcare for my 2 year old grandson, he will be in nursery school by the time this really kicks in in 2025, I know some people are saying it isn't easy to switch these things on, but there is already a system in place, so just up the hours/money, it's not like it's difficult at a moments notice to take away someone's universal credit or PIP
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2023
  • #27,623
I see it's not actually being implemented in this parliament - what a load of shit. If a Tory says something that sounds too good to be true, it usually is.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2023
  • #27,624
A rotten opposition to a rotten government reported on by a rotten media

 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 16, 2023
  • #27,625
Good news that it looks like a deal might be done for nurses and paramedics. Hopefully a sensible solution can be found for other public sector workers. Looks like there might be a bit more wriggle room available at least
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 16, 2023
  • #27,626
CCFCSteve said:
Good news that it looks like a deal might be done for nurses and paramedics. Hopefully a sensible solution can be found for other public sector workers. Looks like there might be a bit more wriggle room available at least
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Suggestion on BBC teachers union asking for a similar arrangement
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2023
  • #27,627
Lol

'Ignorant' Yousaf asks Ukrainian refugees: Where are all the men?

HUMZA Yousaf has been accused of being “deeply insensitive” after asking a group of women who fled the war in Ukraine, “Where are all the…
www.heraldscotland.com
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 16, 2023
  • #27,628
Grendel said:
Suggestion on BBC teachers union asking for a similar arrangement
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Not heard anything. Internally I think NEU would settle for 8%
 

Ian1779

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #27,629

OFSTED was already not fit for purpose, to reduce someone to this is shameful.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #27,630
Ian1779 said:

OFSTED was already not fit for purpose, to reduce someone to this is shameful.
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Ofsted via a single inspector on one day has given my daughter's nursery a grade 4, which the local council have now used to justify withdrawing the 30 hours free entitlement from the nursery, putting its entire existence at risk. I'm not sure how this actually improves standards in education.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #27,631
Ian1779 said:

OFSTED was already not fit for purpose, to reduce someone to this is shameful.
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Such a fucked up and pointless system that’s only there to give politicians talking points.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #27,632
Ofsted of course a result of New Labour obsession with targets and league tables, should abolish the fucker
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #27,633
fernandopartridge said:
Ofsted of course a result of New Labour obsession with targets and league tables, should abolish the fucker
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And while you’re at it abolish the targets and league tables.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #27,634
shmmeee said:
And while you’re at it abolish the targets and league tables.
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Ha, agree. I think a lot of the thinking behind them comes from the consultancies who can't see anything but through the lens of a consumer service.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #27,635
fernandopartridge said:
Ofsted via a single inspector on one day has given my daughter's nursery a grade 4, which the local council have now used to justify withdrawing the 30 hours free entitlement from the nursery, putting its entire existence at risk. I'm not sure how this actually improves standards in education.
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There is nothing they do that improves standards at all. I think you’d struggle to find a single tangible benefit that has created as a result of their work.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 17, 2023
  • #27,636

Civicus Monitor downgrades UK for undermining civic freedoms

The global index of civic freedoms has released its latest annual findings
www.solicitorsjournal.com

Tories and their supporters must be so proud
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2023
  • #27,637
Do people really watch this shit. Not even a parody

 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2023
  • #27,638
Has anyone been following the ongoing saga of the Forde report into racism in the Labour Party and like to give us a quick summary.

Forde has been complaining that since writing the report he has had no contact from Labour and no changes appear to have been made. From what I remember the report was leaked and the only action taken was against those that leaked it with a 'wait until the official publication' line being taken and a promise of further action at that point but did anything ever happen?

Maybe Starmer will just dismiss it as its written by a lefty lawyer
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2023
  • #27,639
chiefdave said:
Has anyone been following the ongoing saga of the Forde report into racism in the Labour Party and like to give us a quick summary.

Forde has been complaining that since writing the report he has had no contact from Labour and no changes appear to have been made. From what I remember the report was leaked and the only action taken was against those that leaked it with a 'wait until the official publication' line being taken and a promise of further action at that point but did anything ever happen?

Maybe Starmer will just dismiss it as its written by a lefty lawyer
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My post about it was ignored by all the Starmer stans on here which is telling
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2023
  • #27,640
skybluetony176 said:
Do people really watch this shit. Not even a parody

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the cosplay vicar
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2023
  • #27,641
fernandopartridge said:
My post about it was ignored by all the Starmer stans on here which is telling
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It's really not the win the Corbynites think it is.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Mar 18, 2023
  • #27,642
PVA said:
It's really not the win the Corbynites think it is.
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Wasn't really looking from a Starmer stans or Corbynite standpoint. More that they got someone in to do a report which say the party ignores some forms of racism and seemingly nothing has happened since. Doesn't matter if you're on the left or a centrist that should be a concern.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 18, 2023
  • #27,643
chiefdave said:
Wasn't really looking from a Starmer stans or Corbynite standpoint. More that they got someone in to do a report which say the party ignores some forms of racism and seemingly nothing has happened since. Doesn't matter if you're on the left or a centrist that should be a concern.
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Yeah I don't disagree with that
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 18, 2023
  • #27,644
PVA said:
It's really not the win the Corbynites think it is.
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It's not a Corbynite thing you
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 18, 2023
  • #27,645
fernandopartridge said:
It's not a Corbynite thing you
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It is, Corbynites are absolutely pissing their pants over it, like they always do.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2023
  • #27,646
PVA said:
It is, Corbynites are absolutely pissing their pants over it, like they always do.
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Hey!
Lefties!
Leave that wet lettuce alone!
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2023
  • #27,647
fernandopartridge said:
My post about it was ignored by all the Starmer stans on here which is telling
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What do you want to happen?
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2023
  • #27,648
shmmeee said:
What do you want to happen?
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The labour party to be something I could actually in good faith vote for
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2023
  • #27,649
fernandopartridge said:
The labour party to be something I could actually in good faith vote for
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And how would you know that’s happened?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 19, 2023
  • #27,650
shmmeee said:
And how would you know that’s happened?
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When they are not as openly and unashamedly disingenuous as they are now and / or when they give me a reason to vote for them that isn't just that they are not the Tories.
 
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