Henry Winter is suggesting the show won't air at all now. Seems players and managers have informed the BBC they won't be participating in any media dutiesWhat are the odds of MOTD being replaced by a re-run of Dads Army?
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No one has said she said domestic violence is ok, but what she said, whether she meant it that way or not, trivialised the domestic abuse in the Johnsons house hold as "it only happened once" according to his friends. Its not that far a leap away from saying.."well she was asking for it"
This has rightly been interpreted as trivialising domestic abuse. I'd like to see you try and justify it to a survivor of domestic abuse.. even her domestic abuse charity thought they were poor choice of words.
It is not cancel culture, people want her sacked as she is blatantly biased, every week she hardly challenges the Tory MP and hammers everyone else.
As a man I find those comments completely out of order, I'd be really keen to find out how they landed from a female perspective.
I'm going to leave it there.
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I've not said at any point I'm fine with it. I don't agree with what is happening at all. I know it isn't popular to say on here, but cancelling is a leftist thing more over. Of course it does happen everywhere, and there are good examples of it coming from different directions. But find one for a leftist opinion, and there's ten for a conservative or (non-woke) opinion. It is usually related to race, religion, sex, gender. To try and argue it isn't is just lacking any sense.
I've also said openly I think people baying for Lineker are hiding behind the BBC argument. I don't agree with their standpoint at all. The Qatar reference might be a sideshow if I hadn't have said the above, but I have, and it stands very true. So many morals were buried and the other cheek was turned. The situation there is far worse than comments Lineker made, but other than Alex Scott wearing a rainbow armband, no one had the balls to make any kind of stand. Now we're seeing pundits striking, producers walking out, and teams threatening not to do interviews? It's ridiculous. I also don't agree with the fact that so many are up in arms about Lineker, but couldn't have given a fuck about free speech up until now. Until it has affected someone that holds a similar opinion to them. I'm not going to back down and give an amnesty on this either, because it's something I've felt strongly about for a while, and it's playing out completely as I expected now.
I don't like Lineker, I certainly don't agree with his opinions, but I defend his right to have them.
Bit of a mess then.
What happens next week? Lineker is allowed back and carries on as was? Lineker leaves, and so everyone else either has to start co-operating or leave too?
What's the way out?
Bit of a mess then.
What happens next week? Lineker is allowed back and carries on as was? Lineker leaves, and so everyone else either has to start co-operating or leave too?
What's the way out?
We’re going round in circules. But in answer to your question Id explain that Bruce was just trying to do a job as presenter albeit clumsily. I would also say she’s apologised for how her comment may have come across on ‘live’ tv and that she’s a long standing ambassador for Refuge so has probably done a lot more for people suffering from domestic violence than people trying to get her sacked on Twitter
Fiona Bruce ‘appalled and sorry’ after backlash over Stanley Johnson discussion
The presenter faced a social media backlash after intervening when father of former prime minister Boris Johnson was described as a ‘wife-beater’www.independent.co.uk
i am loving the state the BBC have got themselves in to
it's like the didn't plan for what may happen after they took him off air
Lineker opens a farm next to Clarkson's, and they argue over who's on which side of the fence on any particular day?Linker moves to Amazon Prime for £100m/season.
Linekar presents question time to keep everyone happy
Welk this is the irony as she was once accused of bias against fathers 4 justice on the basis that she was at the time working for a domestic abuse charity and advertised for them
Bit of a mess then.
What happens next week? Lineker is allowed back and carries on as was? Lineker leaves, and so everyone else either has to start co-operating or leave too?
What's the way out?
If you're employed by a domestic a use charity you should be biased in favour of domestica use victims.
If you're employed as a presenter of a political debate program on the national broadcaster you should be I.partial.
Again, I don't think she was excusing domestic violence.
Think it averages about 1.4 million viewers, which is pretty good for that time slot (certainly compared to other football shows at similar times)Genuinely does anyone watch football focus anymore
that wasn’t what I askedThink it averages about 1.4 million viewers, which is pretty good for that time slot (certainly compared to other football shows at similar times)
the seem to have just thought the "staff" would just carry onIt's toryesque, I wonder how that happened?
At first I’d presumed he’d said it on air. It’s setting a dangerous precedent.
If he’d voiced his support for the government, there’s next to no chance he’d have been taken off air.Do you think no sports commenter be suspended for any political beliefs?
If he’d voiced his support for the government, there’s next to no chance he’d have been taken off air.
some say she was and there’s no evidence of bias so it’s an opinion of yours - no more and no less
Of course it's not opinion. But it's one informed by watching her.
And from your own subjective viewpoint
They don’t seem to have considered that the likes of Wright and Shearer aren’t exactly desperate for cash and the likes of Scott have a load of non BBC media jobs and all of them would most likely walk into a prominent role at Sky if they became availablethe seem to have just thought the "staff" would just carry on
Exactly, they didn't think "what will the rich freelancers do?"They don’t seem to have considered that the likes of Wright and Shearer aren’t exactly desperate for cash and the likes of Scott have a load of non BBC media jobs and all of them would most likely walk into a prominent role at Sky if they became available
He didn't express a political belief, just pointed out the obvious parallel between the language of Braverman and co and that of Germany in the 30s. Politics wise Lineker was satisfied with the election of the Tories in 2019 iirc.Do you think no sports commenter be suspended for any political beliefs?
He was certainly no fan of CorbynHe didn't express a political belief, just pointed out the obvious parallel between the language of Braverman and co and that of Germany in the 30s. Politics wise Lineker was satisfied with the election of the Tories in 2019 iirc.
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