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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,301
oakey said:
If Lineker had tweeted in support of this government policy and ended with #stoptheboats do we think he would be "stepping back"? Discuss
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Yes, I think there would be a backlash definitely.
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,302
Grendel said:
Oddly I think myself Agnes was referring to the genocide that strangely began in the 1930’s. I guess you think she’s talking about the Boston Tea Party
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the genocide began in 1941
 

oakey

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,303
This is a serious blunder by the bbc. We may see broadcasters take actions which could escalate into industrial dispute.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,304
TomRad85 said:
BSB said in this thread that he would lose his job if he openly held the opinion that this multiple gender nonsense was indeed nonsense. That's genuinely way more concerning than whether a few celebs get displaced from one platform to another.

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Without revealing too many details, a colleague of mine lost his job for getting the nationality of a well known figure wrong by mistake.

If I openly said that multiple genders were nonsense I’d be gone too-no question.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,305
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Are you serious? Also a lot of laughing emojis from people that obviously have absolutely no awareness of what goes on in society.

There is infinite amount of attempts to cancel civilians and celebrities for holding right wing or conservative opinions, or more appropriately, not woke ones. Most cancel culture is related to race, gender, and sexuality - the leftists trifecta. Literally go on google and have a look. It isn't just celebrities either, it is the real world with people losing their jobs for not conforming to standards put in place by those on the left.

Post 'All lives matter', get fired. Post 'white lives don't matter', get promoted. No it's not a joke. That's a real example. Google that too.

Have a chat with Gina Carano and JK Rowling if you want to be that ignorant. Even Davina McCall talked recently about the one attempt people had to cancel her, for sticking up for men. Ever seen the Simpsons and Apu? You'll have to go back in time. Cancelled.

It's not exclusive to the left, but it is absolutely comes from that direction most of the time. To go full circle: 'It's ok when we do it'.
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JK Rowling (definitely not cancelled) and Gina Carano (sorry I had to Google) doesn't strike me as a tidal wave of cases, nor do either of them (or race-baiting slogans like 'All Lives Matter') seem comparable to someone getting suspended from their job for criticizing the government to me. But that's not to say I'm fuming at what's happening to Lineker either - employers should be allowed to hold their employees accountable if they think they're damaging their brand, within the reasonable boundaries of free speech. But it's up to the employers to communicate that properly in the first place.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,306
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Without revealing too many details, a colleague of mine lost his job for getting the nationality of a well known figure wrong by mistake.

If I openly said that multiple genders were nonsense I’d be gone too-no question.
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Which is also a massive problem imo
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,307
the Wannsee Conference was in jan 1942
 

TomRad85

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,308
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Without revealing too many details, a colleague of mine lost his job for getting the nationality of a well known figure wrong by mistake.

If I openly said that multiple genders were nonsense I’d be gone too-no question.
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Completely insane and very worrying.

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TomRad85

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,309
Evo1883 said:
Which is also a massive problem imo
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It's a far bigger problem. These people don't have voices like Lineker does.

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clint van damme

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,310
Grendel said:
I guess you’d better have an argument with Agnes about that

https://www.thejc.com/news/news/bbc-gary-lineker-to-step-back-from-motd-following-1930s-germany-firestorm-IA82pRikOpNFCFgNsrZuM?reloadTime=1678471200011
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And you can argue with this lady


Neither your link or mine actually prove anything other than Jewish people have differences of opinion on this just like everyone else.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,311
Evo1883 said:
Which is also a massive problem imo
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For decades it’s been accepted that teachers will let off steam in the staff room after a bad lesson or a tough day. Likewise for years teachers have built relationships with their classes by telling anecdotes, using humour and bantering a bit. In the last few years however this has become unacceptable and I have watched multiple colleagues be forced out of their jobs for things that weren’t an issue even 5 years ago.

It means that I don’t go anywhere near anything even slightly off topic in lessons because it could land me out of a job.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,312
Another thing I’m amazed hasn’t been highlighted on here - 50% want people on boats banned for life from the uk and 36% oppose

always how you ask the question really

 
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napolimp

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,313
I can't wait for Tom Bradby on the ITV news tonight: - What on earth is going on at the BBC?

I do wonder, if we remove people from TV for airing their views about the government, how does that make us any different from Russia and the Marina Ovsyannikova incident? She spoke out about the Russian government ON AIR, and was removed. Lineker criticises the government in his private time and is also removed from air.
 
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napolimp

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,314
Grendel said:
Another thing I’m amazed hasn’t been highlighted on here - 50% want people on boats banned for life from the uk and 36% oppose

always how you ask the question really

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You literally said you were done 15 minutes ago.
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,315
Grendel said:
Another thing I’m amazed hasn’t been highlighted on here - 50% want people on boats banned for life from the uk and 36% oppose

always how you ask the question really

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It's a leading question though, you'd get a differing result if you say asked "should people who are valid asylum seekers be deported for using an illegal route while there are currently no legal routes open"? That's a leading question as well but would give very different results
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,316
napolimp said:
I can't wait for Tom Bradby on the ITV news tonight: - What on earth is going on at the BBC?

I do wonder, if we remove people from TV for airing their views about the government, how does that make us any different from Russia and the Marina Ovsyannikova incident? She spoke out about the Russian government ON AIR, and was removed. Lineker criticises the government in his private time and is also removed from air.
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Fucking hell. I expect him to suddenly develop plutonium poisoning anytime soon
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,317
Hearing that Clive has gone on strike tomorrow to show solidarity.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,318
David O'Day said:
It's a leading question though, you'd get a differing result if you say asked "should people who are valid asylum seekers be deported for using an illegal route while there are currently no legal routes open"? That's a leading question as well but would give very different results
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There's no such thing as an illegal route to claim asylum
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,319
napolimp said:
You literally said you were done 15 minutes ago.
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Are you trying to cancel me?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,320
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I don't give a fuck about Lineker. I don't watch motd to see him, I watch it for football .
As for his tweets I suggest he open a hostel or buy up half a dozen hotels, perhaps near the french coast so he can help the migrants .
As things stand, and with his wealth, I'd have thought actions speak louder than words.
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Like this?

Gary Lineker to take second refugee into home

He said he will ‘never be able to comprehend’ people ‘attacking’ him for doing so
www.independent.co.uk
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,321
Deleted member 5849 said:
There's no such thing as an illegal route to claim asylum
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Yes, I know but that was just part of an example of a leading question.
 
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napolimp

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,322
Grendel said:
Are you trying to cancel me?
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I don't believe in cancel culture. But from what you appear to believe it is, I can only assume you were trying to cancel yourself.
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,323
Deleted member 5849 said:
Like this?

Gary Lineker to take second refugee into home

He said he will ‘never be able to comprehend’ people ‘attacking’ him for doing so
www.independent.co.uk
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They always fall into that trap
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,324
Deleted member 5849 said:
Like this?

Gary Lineker to take second refugee into home

He said he will ‘never be able to comprehend’ people ‘attacking’ him for doing so
www.independent.co.uk
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Yes he had enough of him after a couple of weeks - amazing gesture - I know someone whose had a Ukrainian family for 6 months - but in sure Gary wasn’t doing it for publicity
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,325
I would of thought he'd have had his agents straight on the blower but fair fucks to him

 
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Ian1779

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,326
At least they’ve always got one big gun to fall back on tomorrow night…

 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2023
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napolimp

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,328
Grendel said:
Yes he had enough of him after a couple of weeks - amazing gesture - I know someone whose had a Ukrainian family for 6 months - but in sure Gary wasn’t doing it for publicity
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Congrats to your acquaintance Did Gary also get money from the government for taking in a refugee?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,329
Grendel said:
Yes he had enough of him after a couple of weeks - amazing gesture - I know someone whose had a Ukrainian family for 6 months - but in sure Gary wasn’t doing it for publicity
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Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Why we need the infantile well what's he done for having a belief, fuck knows, but given he has actually backed action with words, it seems one fair to point it out.

Or we can just snipe, and say Harold Wilson said a nasty thing in 1983, so therefore we must ignore all injustice.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,330
skybluetony176 said:
Ridiculous.
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Do you think he would have been cancelled if he had tweeted support for the Government's approach? No of course not.

Meanwhile we have the Chair of the BBC who has donated funds to the Tory party; is a friend if Boris Johnson and arranged for a Johnson to get a loan. No double standards at all.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Mar 10, 2023
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skybluetony176 said:
In more right wing snowflake news

BBC will not broadcast Attenborough episode over fear of ‘rightwing backlash’

Exclusive: Decision to make episode about natural destruction available only on iPlayer angers programme-makers
www.theguardian.com
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Truly shocking. This is worse than the Linneker issue. Keep the plebs ignorant about climate change so they don't realise how important it is and how hopeless the Government is at tackling it.
 
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napolimp

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,332
Deleted member 9744 said:
Truly shocking. This is worse than the Linneker issue. Keep the plebs ignorant about climate change so they don't realise how important it is and how hopeless the Government is at tackling it.
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Just another day at the woke, liberal, BBC which is always pandering to the left.
 

Frostie

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,333
David O'Day said:
they are running out of people to do it
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Give it Big Sam til the end of the season.
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,334
Frostie said:
Give it Big Sam til the end of the season.
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Does that mean MoTD will be down next season?
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,335
Frostie said:
Give it Big Sam til the end of the season.
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Just hide the pints of wine
 
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