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David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,266
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,267
clint van damme said:
I've not said Lineker has been cancelled.

And when employed by the BBC Clarkson said about striking workers they should all be shot in front of their families, and didn't lose his job, so it's the hypocrisy and double standards that I'm criticising.
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oh I’m talking about the future over the Meghan article and the demand he was sacked for that - as you well know
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,268
RegTheDonk said:
Sorry don't agree. He has a contract with the Corporation and has been seen as a face of the BBC for decades. He has a duty to uphold their values, regardless what kind of programme he is assoicated with. If you had a BBC cleaner spouting off political things on facebook they would hopefully face the same discipline.

Obviously he can tweet what he likes and if he wants to put his oar in a pro/anti government debate, then fair play to him. But he can't do that and still expect a contract with an organisation who are supposed to sit on the fence. Regardless of the "taste" of the comment which I feel is pretty crass, it's the correct call from the BBC and if Shearer or Wright want to not appear in sympathy, they are effectivley condoning his tweets.
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actually the rules only apply to those in the news team

not like you to be wrong
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,269
RegTheDonk said:
Sorry don't agree. He has a contract with the Corporation and has been seen as a face of the BBC for decades. He has a duty to uphold their values, regardless what kind of programme he is assoicated with. If you had a BBC cleaner spouting off political things on facebook they would hopefully face the same discipline.

Obviously he can tweet what he likes and if he wants to put his oar in a pro/anti government debate, then fair play to him. But he can't do that and still expect a contract with an organisation who are supposed to sit on the fence. Regardless of the "taste" of the comment which I feel is pretty crass, it's the correct call from the BBC and if Shearer or Wright want to not appear in sympathy, they are effectivley condoning his tweets.
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It's a fair viewpoint, but if the BBC feels the same way then they should put it in their Code of Conduct for all employees and make sure Lineker signed up to it knowing the consequences of breaking it. They haven't, and he hasn't, so here we are.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,270
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,271
Grendel said:
oh I’m talking about the future over the Meghan article and the demand he was sacked for that - as you well know
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I didn't. And even if he'd been sacked, that wouldn't have constituted cancelling him would it?
If you really want to look at people who've been cancelled you really should beciting someone like John Leslie or Michael Barrymore.

Someone who has multiple platforms and access many more isn't cancelled, its nonsense.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,272
Grendel said:
oh I’m talking about the future over the Meghan article and the demand he was sacked for that - as you well know
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So if someone does a crap job which makes them unpopular, it's cancel culture to call for a taxi?
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,273
David O'Day said:
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I'd just like to echo Micahs sentiments.
I'm not working on Match of the day either, but if I was, I wouldn't do it.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,274
Grendel said:
But you wanted her to be? Also that is cancel culture this isn’t is it? If he worked for channel 4 don’t think this is an issue though I think making holocaust comparisons isn’t clever myself
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Holocaust comparisons?

Fucking hell.
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,275
clint van damme said:
I'd just like to echo Micahs sentiments.
I'm not working on Match of the day either, but if I was, I wouldn't do it.
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they are running out of people to do it
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,276
Enjoying all the presenters and pundits refusing to do it. Fair play to them.


 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,277
The show could go ahead with no presenters so more hi lights it might be the refresh the show needed.
 
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oakey

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,278
False equivalence alive and well.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,279
SBT said:
So if someone does a crap job which makes them unpopular, it's cancel culture to call for a taxi?
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I dont think cancel culture has a thing to do with it
 
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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,280
oakey said:
False equivalence alive and well.
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Basically agreeing it's wrong for Lineker to be taken off air though
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,281
Terry Gibson's perm said:
The show could go ahead with no presenters so more hi lights it might be the refresh the show needed.
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I can watch the highlights on YouTube. It's the punditry that's the USP.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,282
SBT said:
Who are the comparable examples who've been suspended for right wing views?
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Are you serious? Also a lot of laughing emojis from people that obviously have absolutely no awareness of what goes on in society.

There is infinite amount of attempts to cancel civilians and celebrities for holding right wing or conservative opinions, or more appropriately, not woke ones. Most cancel culture is related to race, gender, and sexuality - the leftists trifecta. Literally go on google and have a look. It isn't just celebrities either, it is the real world with people losing their jobs for not conforming to standards put in place by those on the left.

Post 'All lives matter', get fired. Post 'white lives don't matter', get promoted. No it's not a joke. That's a real example. Google that too.

Have a chat with Gina Carano and JK Rowling if you want to be that ignorant. Even Davina McCall talked recently about the one attempt people had to cancel her, for sticking up for men. Ever seen the Simpsons and Apu? You'll have to go back in time. Cancelled.

It's not exclusive to the left, but it is absolutely comes from that direction most of the time. To go full circle: 'It's ok when we do it'.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,283
PVA said:
Holocaust comparisons?

Fucking hell.
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I guess you’d better have an argument with Agnes about that

https://www.thejc.com/news/news/bbc-gary-lineker-to-step-back-from-motd-following-1930s-germany-firestorm-IA82pRikOpNFCFgNsrZuM?reloadTime=1678471200011
 
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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,284
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
a lot of laughing emojis from people that obviously have absolutely no awareness of what goes on in society.
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You can stop clicking on that emoji, tbf
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,285
Northants Sky Blue said:
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Hypocritical again though isn't it?

Don't cancel Linekar, but present Match of the Day and we'll cancel you.

The whole thing is fucking stupid.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,286
I'm not sure the bbc should be having grief with lineker on this tbh .
 
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TomRad85

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,287
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Are you serious? Also a lot of laughing emojis from people that obviously have absolutely no awareness of what goes on in society.

There is infinite amount of attempts to cancel civilians and celebrities for holding right wing or conservative opinions, or more appropriately, not woke ones. Most cancel culture is related to race, gender, and sexuality - the leftists trifecta. Literally go on google and have a look. It isn't just celebrities either, it is the real world with people losing their jobs for not conforming to standards put in place by those on the left.

Post 'All lives matter', get fired. Post 'white lives don't matter', get promoted. No it's not a joke. That's a real example. Google that too.

Have a chat with Gina Carano and JK Rowling if you want to be that ignorant. Even Davina McCall talked recently about the one attempt people had to cancel her, for sticking up for men. Ever seen the Simpsons and Apu? You'll have to go back in time. Cancelled.

It's not exclusive to the left, but it is absolutely comes from that direction most of the time. To go full circle: 'It's ok when we do it'.
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BSB said in this thread that he would lose his job if he openly held the opinion that this multiple gender nonsense was indeed nonsense. That's genuinely way more concerning than whether a few celebs get displaced from one platform to another.

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PVA

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,288
Grendel said:
I guess you’d better have an argument with Agnes about that

https://www.thejc.com/news/news/bbc-gary-lineker-to-step-back-from-motd-following-1930s-germany-firestorm-IA82pRikOpNFCFgNsrZuM?reloadTime=1678471200011
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Thanks for that. But can you point out where he made Holocaust comparisons?
 
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TomRad85

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,289
Evo1883 said:
I'm not sure the bbc should be having grief with lineker on this tbh .
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No they should have let it die off tbh. Weird to see people swooning over a grossly overpaid BBC presenter mind you.

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Evo1883

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,290
TomRad85 said:
No they should have let it die off tbh. Weird to see people swooning over a grossly overpaid BBC presenter mind you.

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Can't stand the bloke , but fuck me this is boring ain't it
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,291
I actually agree with him though
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,292
Grendel said:
I guess you’d better have an argument with Agnes about that

https://www.thejc.com/news/news/bbc-gary-lineker-to-step-back-from-motd-following-1930s-germany-firestorm-IA82pRikOpNFCFgNsrZuM?reloadTime=1678471200011
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She hasn't seen his tweet going by that.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,293
PVA said:
Thanks for that. But can you point out where he made Holocaust comparisons?
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Oddly I think myself Agnes was referring to the genocide that strangely began in the 1930’s. I guess you think she’s talking about the Boston Tea Party
 

TomRad85

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,294
Evo1883 said:
Can't stand the bloke , but fuck me this is boring ain't it
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Yep absolutely is mate.

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Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,295
clint van damme said:
She hasn't seen his tweet going by that.
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ok I’m sure you know best
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,296
That’s it for me
 

oakey

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,297
If Lineker had tweeted in support of this government policy and ended with #stoptheboats do we think he would be "stepping back"? Discuss
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,298
oakey said:
If Lineker had tweeted in support of this government policy and ended with #stoptheboats do we think he would be "stepping back"? Discuss
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And I think that is the problem really
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,299
Grendel said:
ok I’m sure you know best
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Well she hasn't. Or if she has she's misunderstood it.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Mar 10, 2023
  • #27,300
oakey said:
If Lineker had tweeted in support of this government policy and ended with #stoptheboats do we think he would be "stepping back"? Discuss
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Yes almost certainly.

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