clint van damme
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Correct.
He’s not - he’s saying his history of lies is similar to that of Johnson to achieve power
He’s not even referring i don’t think to his interesting behaviour when in charge of the CPS
Correct.
Oh and you can just call me Tom now. I think we're there.The 'first to mention corbyn when debating starmer' stakes were won by outsider TomRad 85 after a disappointing showing from odds on favourite Shmmeee
I think the one interesting thing about the so called right wing press is they haven’t really done very much on Starmer when they could easily do so
The disappearing pledges
The claim to stand by them on the picket line
Standing with workers campaigning for a minimum wage of £15 per hour
Promising to retain the 2017 manifesto as the cornerstone of future politics for labour governments
This is without the accusations levelled at him when at the CPS
I wonder why that might be
Ah yes the press take it so easy on Labour and are just so bloody unfairly hard on the squeaky clean tories
They tried their best to go after Starmer and the best they could come up with is that he had a curry
'I wonder why that might be'
Oh and you can just call me Tom now. I think we're there.
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They are obviously confident he’s not going to rock the establishment boat.I think the one interesting thing about the so called right wing press is they haven’t really done very much on Starmer when they could easily do so
The disappearing pledges
The claim to stand by them on the picket line
Standing with workers campaigning for a minimum wage of £15 per hour
Promising to retain the 2017 manifesto as the cornerstone of future politics for labour governments
This is without the accusations levelled at him when at the CPS
I wonder why that might be
They are obviously confident he’s not going to rock the establishment boat.
*EnglandThe UK is naturally a conservative (with a small c) country, IMO…so to get elected it’s the kind of leader Labour have to have.
Yes you’re right but England ends up dictating for the others.*England
tbf it's the comparison. I'd even find that slightly mental if directed at Truss!I only look at this thread occasionally but you've ruffled some feathers this morning. Love to see it.
Also getting all defensive over a politician is weird, the Starmer lads are starting to sound a bit like the Corbyn cultists, ironically.
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Spot on.The UK is naturally a conservative (with a small c) country, IMO…so to get elected it’s the kind of leader Labour have to have.
tbf it's the comparison. I'd even find that slightly mental if directed at Truss!
Or maybe asking the question of what they are going to do with the opportunity?Spot on.
But as we can see from this thread the Labour leaders who hardly have a chance of getting voted in are championed and their faults ignored whereas someone who has a serious chance of winning an election has many having a go at them.
Like the director of public prosecution?I think Clint is suggesting the higher they get the more dishonest they get. Judge him when he's in the big boy job I suppose.
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Did you or anyone else questioning the integrity of Starmer ask that of Corbyn?Or maybe asking the question of what they are going to do with the opportunity?
Do something transformative for the country or just be a glorified Cameron spiv?
History of lies wowHe’s not - he’s saying his history of lies is similar to that of Johnson to achieve power
He’s not even referring i don’t think to his interesting behaviour when in charge of the CPS
tbf, the first term isn't necessarily the one to be making massive changes... just stop the rot. Even Thatcher was relatively docile in her first term (kept state aid there for BL for a start!) - it was really her second term that she took as a mandate to go radical.Or maybe asking the question of what they are going to do with the opportunity?
Do something transformative for the country or just be a glorified Cameron spiv?
The UK is naturally a conservative (with a small c) country, IMO…so to get elected it’s the kind of leader Labour have to have.
History of lies wow
Or maybe asking the question of what they are going to do with the opportunity?
Do something transformative for the country or just be a glorified Cameron spiv?
Lying???? Changing opinion and reacting to situations isn’t it?So name any of his leadership pledges at the leadership election he has kept
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Like the director of public prosecution?
wow
Of course but it shows the mettle of a person?That's a totally different position from being head of one of the two main parties and hugely different from being PM.
Lying???? Changing opinion and reacting to situations isn’t it?
Why do you care?
Probably can’t afford it or sell it?Why has he reneged on a commitment to nationalise railways?
Of course but it shows the mettle of a person?
Johnson’s history is one well known as a compulsive liar
Probably can’t afford it or sell it?
honest answer I don’t know it’s not lying though unless you have it in for someone
I didn’t need to - the manifesto spoke for itself.Did you or anyone else questioning the integrity of Starmer ask that of Corbyn?
I'm not sure moving at gnats whisker leftwards is going to sort this.
Could do it the Tory way and waste billions on things that don't enrich people's lives or wait for the contracts to run down and do something different.Why has he reneged on a commitment to nationalise railways?
Ok and he’s repackaging the offer to the country as time has moved on.“I pledge a minimum wage of £15”
Changing your mind on a policy (nationalisation) that is popular across the voting political spectrum is just plain stupid if you’d prefer.Lying???? Changing opinion and reacting to situations isn’t it?
Why do you care?
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