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skybluetony176

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  • Feb 13, 2023
  • #26,041
Sunak has pulled a blinder here

https://www.itv.com/news/central/2023-02-13/controversial-mp-lee-anderson-facing-libel-proceedings-after-bribery-claims
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 13, 2023
  • #26,042
shmmeee said:
You credit them with far too much political nous, forward thinking and cooperation.
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Yeah, don't buy that they have any long term plans, it's always about maximum short term enrichment for them, always has been and always will be.
 

clint van damme

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  • Feb 13, 2023
  • #26,043
skybluetony176 said:
Sunak has pulled a blinder here

https://www.itv.com/news/central/2023-02-13/controversial-mp-lee-anderson-facing-libel-proceedings-after-bribery-claims
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Introduce the death penalty for unsubstantiated accusations of bribery
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 13, 2023
  • #26,044
Amazing journalism
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Feb 13, 2023
  • #26,045
clint van damme said:
Introduce the death penalty for unsubstantiated accusations of bribery
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If it’s successful and bankrupts him at least he’ll be OK because he knows how to eat for 30p a day.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 13, 2023
  • #26,046
skybluetony176 said:
If it’s successful and bankrupts him at least he’ll be OK because he knows how to eat for 30p a day.
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Im sure the kimono wearing fox killer will crowd fund the action if needs be so the person taking the action will not himself be eating happy shopper baked beans
 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 13, 2023
  • #26,047

Akshata Murty held shares in collapsed firm that had near £300k ‘Sunak’ taxpayer loan

Employees and Lloyds Bank among creditors, after liquidation of firm that benefited from pandemic aid devised by Murty’s spouse, Sunak
www.theguardian.com
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 13, 2023
  • #26,048
Jesus wept, this is a good idea isn't it

 
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chiefdave

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  • Feb 13, 2023
  • #26,049
How many times can Sunak go with the 'I had no clue what was going on' defence before he looks totally incompetent. Trying it again with he Gove situation
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Feb 13, 2023
  • #26,050
chiefdave said:
How many times can Sunak go with the 'I had no clue what was going on' defence before he looks totally incompetent. Trying it again with he Gove situation
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clint van damme

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  • Feb 13, 2023
  • #26,051
chiefdave said:
How many times can Sunak go with the 'I had no clue what was going on' defence before he looks totally incompetent. Trying it again with he Gove situation
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What's bollock chops been up to?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 13, 2023
  • #26,052
clint van damme said:
What's bollock chops been up to?
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He attended a secret meeting to discuss what a failure brexit is and what they can do to fix it where he apparently admitted it was a disaster.
 

clint van damme

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  • Feb 13, 2023
  • #26,053
skybluetony176 said:
He attended a secret meeting to discuss what a failure brexit is and what they can do to fix it where he apparently admitted it was a disaster.
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I'd heard about that, didn't realise Sunak was unaware.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 14, 2023
  • #26,054
Obviously doesn’t fit the current Tory message

 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 14, 2023
  • #26,055
clint van damme said:
I'd heard about that, didn't realise Sunak was unaware.
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Think he tried to distance himself from it originally when the Mail started kicking off about it but has since rowed back claiming that the meeting was about getting the most out of Brexit rather than admitting it’s a failure.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,056
It wasn’t our fault that the car crashed, we only had our hands on the steering wheel. It’s the fault of the driver in the car a mile down the road that never had their hands on the steering wheel. Jesus Christ, grow up and own what you did

 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,057
skybluetony176 said:
It wasn’t our fault that the car crashed, we only had our hands on the steering wheel. It’s the fault of the driver in the car a mile down the road that never had their hands on the steering wheel. Jesus Christ, grow up and own what you did

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Classic fringe politics this. “I would make everything better if I was just given the chance!” … gets the chance and fucks it royally … “Oh I was taken down by shadowy forces and not allowed to do it properly”

See Corbyn, Truss, Brexit.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,058
shmmeee said:
Classic fringe politics this. “I would make everything better if I was just given the chance!” … gets the chance and fucks it royally … “Oh I was taken down by shadowy forces and not allowed to do it properly”

See Corbyn, Truss, Brexit.
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They thought their next guest was going to be easy as well given his surname

 

Grendel

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,059
Krankie resigned
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,060
Grendel said:
Krankie resigned
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What's gone on?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,061
Skybluefaz said:
What's gone on?
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Good speech actually
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,062
Sky Blue Pete said:
Good speech actually
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She just getting out the frying pan then before it turns into a fire?

I just get a feeling that things are starting to turn against the SNP and this is pretty immaculate timing from her.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,063
Skybluefaz said:
She just getting out the frying pan then before it turns into a fire?

I just get a feeling that things are starting to turn against the SNP and this is pretty immaculate timing from her.
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Maybe right
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,064
She promised independence in 2023 and Parliament has pretty much made that impossible. So she has an untenable position now.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,065
Skybluefaz said:
What's gone on?
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I would think a combination of all the Salmond drama, losing the right to a second referendum in the courts and then all this transsexual drama with the UK government overturning a Scottish assembly decision has meant that she’s seen the music is about to stop so she’s leaving the dance floor before the silence. Not sure the SNP has another big personality to take her place, I certainly couldn’t name one. Can see the SNP vote dropping off now, especially in a GE. Only question is who is going to benefit from that, mainly labour you would assume but maybe the Lib Dem’s will win a couple of their traditional seats back.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,066
Brighton Sky Blue said:
She promised independence in 2023 and Parliament has pretty much made that impossible. So she has an untenable position now.
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The polls are against her on many metrics and key figures in her party in Westminster have turned on her
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,067
skybluetony176 said:
I would think a combination of all the Salmond drama, losing the right to a second referendum in the courts and then all this transsexual drama with the UK government overturning a Scottish assembly decision has meant that she’s seen the music is about to stop so she’s leaving the dance floor before the silence. Not sure the SNP has another big personality to take her place, I certainly couldn’t name one. Can see the SNP vote dropping off now, especially in a GE. Only question is who is going to benefit from that, mainly labour you would assume but maybe the Lib Dem’s will win a couple of their traditional seats back.
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John Swinnie normally acts as the caretaker when this happens. Sturgeon despite being abhorrent in a lot of respects does still have charisma. I think Mhairi Black would be their best bet.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,068
Brighton Sky Blue said:
John Swinnie normally acts as the caretaker when this happens. Sturgeon despite being abhorrent in a lot of respects does still have charisma. I think Mhairi Black would be their best bet.
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Never heard of either of them.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,069
skybluetony176 said:
Never heard of either of them.
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That surprises me
 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,070
Brighton Sky Blue said:
That surprises me
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I can’t say I pay that much attention to Scottish politics TBF. Although I had heard of Sturgeon before she became the first minister which is probably testament to what a big character in UK not just Scottish politics she’s been over the years.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,071
skybluetony176 said:
I can’t say I pay that much attention to Scottish politics TBF. Although I had heard of Sturgeon before she became the first minister which is probably testament to what a big character in UK not just Scottish politics she’s been over the years.
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Black has been an MP since 2015 when she was just 20. Has a similar speaking style to Sturgeon and I think will at least make a go for the leadership
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,072
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Black has been an MP since 2015 when she was just 20. Has a similar speaking style to Sturgeon and I think will at least make a go for the leadership
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Its people like Joanna Cherry who’ve caused this from Westminster surely
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,073
Grendel said:
Its people like Joanna Cherry who’ve caused this from Westminster surely
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I didn’t say Black would win but it’s who I would pick in their position.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,074
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I didn’t say Black would win but it’s who I would pick in their position.
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In Westminster terms she is a fairly well known figure and clearly had disdain for Sturgeon even before the gender bill which was a total farce - also of course Blackford stepped down recently as well

Scottish Labour will be in a pickle over the gender reform as well as they backed it fully despite Starmer not supporting it
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 15, 2023
  • #26,075
No one seems to have mentioned that I think Mr Corbyn is the first political leader since Jeremy Thorpe to be told he’s not fit to stand as a party candidate at a general election - I’m not sure Thorpe even had that

It seems Starmer acknowledges his predecessors anti Jewish stance and not acceptable

No one I’m sure disagrees
 
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