It’s mental we can’t teach kids a trade a school. Replace/augment D&T or whatever it’s called this week with it.
Or let those who aren't so academically minded take up apprentiships a year or 2 earlier.
That was, tbf, in my Physics lessons pre GCSEJust thinking it’s one lesson to teach a kid how to replace a plug
That was, tbf, in my Physics lessons pre GCSE
Is the taking back control slogan not working for you?Good to see Labour really really trying their best to tell me not to vote for them. In a period where public services are collapsing due to austerity they're promising not to spend more money.
I'm not bothered about slogans, I care about the substance. It does seem a bit of a silly slogan as he once again does a wanker sign to the silly centrist and FBPE types who coveted him.Is the taking back control slogan not working for you?
As I've posted here previously I live in a very tight marginal, just under 600 vote majority for Tories in 2019“Why do Labour keep doing things that have lead to a massive polling lead when trying to get elected and not specifically to me, a young lefty in a safe Labour seat?“
Out of interest, what was its majority in 2017?As I've posted here previously I live in a very tight marginal, just under 600 vote majority for Tories in 2019
How can something said today be responsible for the results of a poll taken last week?
As I've posted here previously I live in a very tight marginal, just under 600 vote majority for Tories in 2019
How can something said today be responsible for the results of a poll taken last week?
Labour majority of just under 2.5k in 2017Out of interest, what was its majority in 2017?
Is it things Labour have done that has caused them to lead in the polls or is it more the absolute fucking mess the Conservatives have made of pretty much everything?“Why do Labour keep doing things that have lead to a massive polling lead when trying to get elected and not specifically to me, a young lefty in a safe Labour seat?“
Is it things Labour have done that has caused them to lead in the polls or is it more the absolute fucking mess the Conservatives have made of pretty much everything?
Is it things Labour have done that has caused them to lead in the polls or is it more the absolute fucking mess the Conservatives have made of pretty much everything?
'Safe' is probably an asset after Johnson and Truss!Both, mainly Tory shitshow but don’t discount the benefits of Starmer being seen as just a sensible, competent and less threatening alternative than someone like Corbyn. Whether some like it or not, he has restored some credibility for Labour amongst the electorate. He just doesn’t really inspire although I don’t think that’s the publics main concern at the moment - this could change in the coming months as there’s not a huge difference between him and Sunak on a personality level.
Both, mainly Tory shitshow but don’t discount the benefits of Starmer being seen as just a sensible, competent and less threatening alternative than someone like Corbyn. Whether some like it or not, he has restored some credibility for Labour amongst the electorate. He just doesn’t really inspire although I don’t think that’s the publics main concern at the moment - this could change in the coming months as there’s not a huge difference between him and Sunak on a personality level.
Or let those who aren't so academically minded take up apprentiships a year or 2 earlier.
its possible to have engineering / practical colleges and start them at 14 as well as getting them to do basic gcse education so they get some education - also as practical work is often self employed so some basic business knowledge m
The reality is no one at that age wants to do it. A skilled welder employed could command £50 grand a year easily. Plumber £80 self employed grand and an electrician the same.
People now see not attending some form of university as a failure so you end up with the only people generally going into these apprenticeships as people who can’t find anything else to do then end up seeing apprentices as low paid and take another job in a shop or McDonald’s as it’s easier
Not sure where you’ve got this from. Certainly not my experience when teaching. I was told that insurance and H&S meant a lot of firms were reluctant to take on U18s though.
That's changing a little, tbf.People now see not attending some form of university as a failure so you end up with the only people generally going into these apprenticeships as people who can’t find anything else to do then end up seeing apprentices as low paid and take another job in a shop or McDonald’s as it’s easier
i meant it’s possible if you want to change the legislation to develop engineering and practical colleges are that age
many firms do take 16 year olds on as apprentices in manufacturing the issue is the drop out rate is horrendous as many aren’t interested and are only doing it as they don’t want to stay in education
That's changing a little, tbf.
Easier said than done, but the snobbery both ways needs to end. Accept a degree course that isn't immediately 'practical' can still be useful, accept that training as a plumber isn't the failure's option.
Yeah it would need a legislation change. I think drop out rates are pretty high across the board for apprenticeships, 35% on average. Which suggests a bigger problem with the structure.
Tell a lie, it’s up to 47%: Shock as half of apprentices drop out
Yeah, also doesn't help when some have no obvious career progression within the company they're at, either. Do the apprenticeship, leave- where's the incentive in that case, other than a nebulous qualification? And effectively you know the employer's using you for cheap labour too, they're not invested in you, so why should you be with them?Admittedly the scheme doesn’t help. It’s open to abuse from employers - also from colleges which aren’t that bothered other than filling spaces and being paid a lot of money for the course places.
They just want to fill spaces, will lower educational requirements to get government money
Needs a complete overhaul
Yeah, also doesn't help when some have no obvious career progression within the company they're at, either. Do the apprenticeship, leave- where's the incentive in that case, other than a nebulous qualification? And effectibely you know the employer's using you for cheap labour too, they're not invested in you, so why should you be with them?
Admittedly the scheme doesn’t help. It’s open to abuse from employers - also from colleges which aren’t that bothered other than filling spaces and being paid a lot of money for the course places.
They just want to fill spaces, will lower educational requirements to get government money
Needs a complete overhaul
We all know the reason why.Trouble is the price cap isn’t fit for purpose as it’s based on the most expensive form of generation (gas) not the cheapest (renewables) so it isn’t going to bring down energy prices anytime soon. Makes you wonder why people are so anti renewables and pro fossil fuel though. There literally isn’t a logical reason to not phase out fossil fuel generation in favour of renewables, even if you’re a climate change denier.
It all goes back years to target setting for apprenticeship volumes (Labour and the coalition did this), when I worked for the SFA, the measure of performance for colleges and training providers was how many learners they recruited. It leads to all sorts of dysfunctional behaviour and ultimately lots of wasted time and money.Admittedly the scheme doesn’t help. It’s open to abuse from employers - also from colleges which aren’t that bothered other than filling spaces and being paid a lot of money for the course places.
They just want to fill spaces, will lower educational requirements to get government money
Needs a complete overhaul
It all goes back years to target setting for apprenticeship volumes (Labour and the coalition did this), when I worked for the SFA, the measure of performance for colleges and training providers was how many learners they recruited. It leads to all sorts of dysfunctional behaviour and ultimately lots of wasted time and money.
Agreed. People all have different areas of skills and interests, yet we seem determined to tell kids that these few things are worthwhile but everything else is just a waste of time and they're not trying at the 'hard' subjects. I did well at school, but if the 'core' subjects had been stuff like PE, D&T or art I'd have left with barely a qualification.Old fashioned Tory soundbites on importance of extra maths and grammar etc.
I loved GCSE maths. A-Level Maths (pure & applied) was a fcuking nightmare.
Yes maths and physics is vital for the Country and the bright sparks....but not for everyone. Conservatives need to invest in design and arts too as also massive contributers to the Country's economy.
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