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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,606
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I mean, just look at your reactions. I post something which shows there is corruption in the EU and all we get is Brexit, Tories, 'look how great they are for dealing with it efficiently', and as I said; sarcasm, denial, whataboutery, and emoji's. In reality, the only relevant brexit point here is that so many people voted to leave because of these kind of attitudes in the first place. A complete inability to critique (let alone acknowledge) any of the negatives of the EU sensibly.

If I had posted about a ring of Tories being corrupt (which frankly they can burn for as well), an interaction like this wouldn't be happening. It is just such a shame. There are some really intelligent people on here, but the inability to call out something shit because it's 'your side' is extremely frustrating and why no one else bothers to post in here any more. I'll leave it at that.
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What? Have you missed ‘the hard left’ laying into Labour MPs and Starmer just on the previous page?
 
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JAM See

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,607
SBT said:
They should just abolish the European Parliament tbh
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Who's 'They'?
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,608
JAM See said:
Who's 'They'?
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CCC
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,609
Some good news

Nuclear fusion - as it happened: Scientists reveal 'limitless clean energy' breakthrough

Follow updates as scientists announced a major breakthrough that could lead to "basically unlimited" carbon-free energy
news.sky.com
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,610
JAM See said:
Who's 'They'?
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The European Union
 

JAM See

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,611
SBT said:
The European Union
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The EU should abolish the EU parliament?

How do decisions get made?
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,612
JAM See said:
The EU should abolish the EU parliament?

How do decisions get made?
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Qatari bungs
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,613
clint van damme said:
Some good news

Nuclear fusion - as it happened: Scientists reveal 'limitless clean energy' breakthrough

Follow updates as scientists announced a major breakthrough that could lead to "basically unlimited" carbon-free energy
news.sky.com
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Looks like it’s still 20-30 years away from commercialisation reading that but still great news. Aside from anything else it’s progress that has been hard to come by and should increase fusion funding which has been pretty pitiful up to now.

 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,614
shmmeee said:
Looks like it’s still 20-30 years away from commercialisation reading that but still great news. Aside from anything else it’s progress that has been hard to come by and should increase fusion funding which has been pretty pitiful up to now.

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they had some boffin on 5Live from Edinburgh University and she thought it could be as little as 10.
Not covered in the article but there's also a large project of a similar ilk in France which the UK is a big investor in.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,615
shmmeee said:
Qatari bungs
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Right wing media channels and social media .
It's the way Hancock say's so.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,616
clint van damme said:
they had some boffin on 5Live from Edinburgh University and she thought it could be as little as 10.
Not covered in the article but there's also a large project of a similar ilk in France which the UK is a big investor in.
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Everything I’ve seen says closer to 30, but who knows? My only worry is does it stop people taking action on clean energy production now.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,617
clint van damme said:
they had some boffin on 5Live from Edinburgh University and she thought it could be as little as 10.
Not covered in the article but there's also a large project of a similar ilk in France which the UK is a big investor in.
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Japan big on it too.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,618
shmmeee said:
Everything I’ve seen says closer to 30, but who knows? My only worry is does it stop people taking action on clean energy production now.
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The woman on the radio was keen to make this point, she said we still need to push on with renewables.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,619
CCFCSteve said:
Ive just read the bbcs Sunak article (didn’t hear speech) and struggling to see the issue. clearing the backlog is good for everyone…the public and the claimants. At the moment we’re got a load of people who might have a valid/genuine claim who are stuck in limbo. we should also be trying to dissuade people who aren’t genuine asylum seekers from entering the country illegally not just because of the ridiculous holding costs involved but again, their claims are clogging up the system for genuine claimants.

What’s missing is an acknowledgment that there needs to be processing centres away from the U.K. where people can submit an asylum claim legally. Until the government has the balls to accept this we’ll continue with this mess

What’s all this anti immigration stuff being talked about though ?? It’s illegal immigration that Sunak was talking about. If it’s true that France, Germany etc are rejecting almost 100% of Albanian asylum seeker claims then no wonder so many are chancing their arm getting into the U.K. so we’ve got to look at our system. Net migration was 500k+ this year, that’s hardly anti immigration.
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Clearing a backlog is good, you can't set limits on refugees though, you just can't. Nor can you redefine it all just to suit your desires!
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,620
shmmeee said:
Everything I’ve seen says closer to 30, but who knows? My only worry is does it stop people taking action on clean energy production now.
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I see you've dropped the 'safe' prefix.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,621
wingy said:
Japan big on it too.
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Global funding, private and government, was about $4.8bns this year, and that’s more than double what it was last year. As a species we spend absolute peanuts on it, have a look at that graph I posted, and those figures are for just the US. While there’ll be some crossover it won’t be equivalent to a single country funding that amount.

By comparison Pfizer alone spends $9.8pms a year on pharmaceutical research.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,622
Philosorapter said:
I see you've dropped the 'safe' prefix.
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Are you still on about fission? It’s safe. I’ve shown you the data. Why are you bringing this up again? Don’t tell me you’re against fusion too!
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,623
shmmeee said:
Are you still on about fission? It’s safe. I’ve shown you the data. Why are you bringing this up again? Don’t tell me you’re against fusion too!
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This is the time of year when we build a snowman, not a straw man.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,624
Philosorapter said:
This is the time of year when we build a snowman, not a straw man.
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What argument have I invented for you? You don’t think fission is safe despite the evidence and you’re bringing it up in a discussion on fusion.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,625
shmmeee said:
What argument have I invented for you? You don’t think fission is safe despite the evidence and you’re bringing it up in a discussion on fusion.
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Did you see that nutter on Twitter who thought on the collapse of wasps that public money wasted wasn't from CCC then everything would supposedly be fine?
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,626
clint van damme said:
they had some boffin on 5Live from Edinburgh University and she thought it could be as little as 10.
Not covered in the article but there's also a large project of a similar ilk in France which the UK is a big investor in.
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Has this not been affected by Brexit? I know a lot if our scientific initiatives with EU countries were negatively affected.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,627
JAM See said:
The EU should abolish the EU parliament?

How do decisions get made?
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Some combination of the Commission and the Council.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,628
shmmeee said:
What argument have I invented for you? You don’t think fission is safe despite the evidence and you’re bringing it up in a discussion on fusion.
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Oh, and you are attributing stuff to me which I did not say.

Just a small thing.
 

JAM See

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,629
SBT said:
Some combination of the Commission and the Council.
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No transparency then?

#MichelleMonelikesthis.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,630
Philosorapter said:
Oh, and you are attributing stuff to me which I did not say.

Just a small thing.
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if I didn’t interpret what you say frankly I wouldn’t have a clue
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,631
Deleted member 9744 said:
Has this not been affected by Brexit? I know a lot if our scientific initiatives with EU countries were negatively affected.
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it wasn't launched until post Brexit
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,632
JAM See said:
No transparency then?

#MichelleMonelikesthis.
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Well you’d need to tweak the roles of the Council and the Commission to allow for that, but my point is that the European Parliament doesn’t deliver value for money and doesn’t serve an obvious purpose in European democracy. In its current form it’s a bit of a talking shop/gravy train. If you only want it there to scrutinise the work of the Commission, surely there are more efficient ways to do that?
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,633
SBT said:
Well you’d need to tweak the roles of the Council and the Commission to allow for that, but my point is that the European Parliament doesn’t deliver value for money and doesn’t serve an obvious purpose in European democracy. In its current form it’s a bit of a talking shop/gravy train. If you only want it there to scrutinise the work of the Commission, surely there are more efficient ways to do that?
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Would you have no elected reps?
 

JAM See

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,634
SBT said:
Well you’d need to tweak the roles of the Council and the Commission to allow for that, but my point is that the European Parliament doesn’t deliver value for money and doesn’t serve an obvious purpose in European democracy. In its current form it’s a bit of a talking shop/gravy train. If you only want it there to scrutinise the work of the Commission, surely there are more efficient ways to do that?
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I don't think you get it.

We (the UK collectively) decided to leave the EU.

We can criticise the EU.
We can criticise the USA.
We can criticise India.
We can criticise China.
We can criticise whoever we fucking want.

What we can't do, is influence the second largest economy in the world anymore.

We are out of the EU.

Criticising the EU is like grandad shouting at a cloud.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,635
shmmeee said:
Would you have no elected reps?
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Well members of the Council are elected aren’t they?
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,636
SBT said:
Well members of the Council are elected aren’t they?
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Not directly. But I guess neither are cabinet ministers.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,637
On nuclear fusion-so pleased for the scientists involved, it's taken decades of work to get to this point.
 
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JAM See

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  • Dec 13, 2022
  • #24,638
Brighton Sky Blue said:
On nuclear fusion-so pleased for the scientists involved, it's taken decades of work to get to this point.
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Bit like the suffragettes. Keep plugging away and good things will happen.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 13, 2022
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JAM See said:
Bit like the suffragettes. Keep plugging away and good things will happen.
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In science sometimes it’s a question of waiting for the technology to arrive to make the next step possible. Others it’s a question of who has the right vision.

In either case you also need a bit of luck
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 14, 2022
  • #24,640
Brighton Sky Blue said:
On nuclear fusion-so pleased for the scientists involved, it's taken decades of work to get to this point.
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This is why they need backing and investment.
Just shows what's going in the States beyond the gun nuts and the far right grifters.
 
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